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They're basically playing without their top two players on D right now. Scheme can only do so much.
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Agreed. But I hear on the radio all the time what a mistake it was to let Riveria walk, yet I'm pretty sure the downfall of the Bears defense had to do with the injuries/decline in play of guys like Tommie Harris, Urlacher, Mike Brown.
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Average at best? He's pretty easily above average. He had an 18-12 ratio with the Bears last year. Considering the Bears receivers, that is much better than average.

 

But yeah I agree with the rest.

 

Starters off the top of my head I would take over Orton: Manning, Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, Warner, E. Manning, McNabb, Romo, Ryan, Rivers, Schaub, Garrard, Favre, Rodgers, Hasselbeck, and Flacco. And then you could throw in the fact that no one in their right mind would take Orton over Stafford or Sanchez as a long term solution.

 

I guess you could say Orton is in the next group with the Shaun Hills and Matt Cassels of the world. I don't see how that puts him at "easily above average" for starting QBs.

 

I have no idea why you would want Hasselbeck more. He has had one good season in the last four and can't stay healthy at all anymore.

 

As far as the taking Stafford and Sanchez stuff, if you do that then Favre and Hasselbeck are dropped from the list.

 

Obviously I have a huge bias for Purdue players but a QB who had a good ratio, on a team that has crappy receivers and the coach didn't open up the playbook until late in the season I would say is above average.

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Agreed. But I hear on the radio all the time what a mistake it was to let Riveria walk, yet I'm pretty sure the downfall of the Bears defense had to do with the injuries/decline in play of guys like Tommie Harris, Urlacher, Mike Brown.

 

Brown can't be factored in. He has been injured every season.

 

Your post makes no sense though. You complain about the pundits saying it was a mistake to let Riveria go yet defend him by pointing out injuries/decline of players.

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Agreed. But I hear on the radio all the time what a mistake it was to let Riveria walk, yet I'm pretty sure the downfall of the Bears defense had to do with the injuries/decline in play of guys like Tommie Harris, Urlacher, Mike Brown.

 

Brown can't be factored in. He has been injured every season.

 

Your post makes no sense though. You complain about the pundits saying it was a mistake to let Riveria go yet defend him by pointing out injuries/decline of players.

 

I really have no idea what your talking about. I'm just saying Riveria is a decent DC, nothing more nothing less. In Chicago when his players were healthy he looked great. Yet people point to his exit as the downfall of the D, which isn't true. Not quite sure where you are going with this.

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Agreed. But I hear on the radio all the time what a mistake it was to let Riveria walk, yet I'm pretty sure the downfall of the Bears defense had to do with the injuries/decline in play of guys like Tommie Harris, Urlacher, Mike Brown.

 

Brown can't be factored in. He has been injured every season.

 

Your post makes no sense though. You complain about the pundits saying it was a mistake to let Riveria go yet defend him by pointing out injuries/decline of players.

 

I really have no idea what your talking about. I'm just saying Riveria is a decent DC, nothing more nothing less. In Chicago when his players were healthy he looked great. Yet people point to his exit as the downfall of the D, which isn't true. Not quite sure where you are going with this.

 

Now I see what you're trying to say. You might want to make your points clearer been a couple I've had to read multiple times to figure out what you meant.

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Obviously I have a huge bias for Purdue players but a QB who had a good ratio, on a team that has crappy receivers and the coach didn't open up the playbook until late in the season I would say is above average.

18-12 is, at best, a slightly worse than unacceptable ratio. It is not, ever, for any reason, in the history of the universe, 'good'.

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Chargers are flirting with coming back in this game.

 

yeah, but they made the mistake of trusting their defense.

 

Yeah, they should have onside kicked it after making it 35-28.

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Obviously I have a huge bias for Purdue players but a QB who had a good ratio, on a team that has crappy receivers and the coach didn't open up the playbook until late in the season I would say is above average.

18-12 is, at best, a slightly worse than unacceptable ratio. It is not, ever, for any reason, in the history of the universe, 'good'.

 

Didn't say good said above average. A +6 ratio was 13th best last year. Above average like I said.

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Obviously I have a huge bias for Purdue players but a QB who had a good ratio, on a team that has crappy receivers and the coach didn't open up the playbook until late in the season I would say is above average.

18-12 is, at best, a slightly worse than unacceptable ratio. It is not, ever, for any reason, in the history of the universe, 'good'.

 

Didn't say good said above average. A +6 ratio was 13th best last year. Above average like I said.

I quoted a post where you called it good.

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