Fox to 2B next year?

[Sammy Sofa]

There hasn't been a player-manager in a long time and I think Fox would be just the guy to bring it back and when I say "play" I mean he'll be batting in 4 spots in the lineup and when I say "manage" I mean he'll be the manager and the GM it'll be great.

[IlliniGuy99]

Maybe we can DH him and hope nobody notices.

[Derwood]

Mike Fontenot redux

[Gmoney08]

Wouldnt it make alot more sense to move Soriano back to 2B and Fox to LF.

 

As bad as Soriano was at 2B I would probably say he would be better then Fox.

[XZero771679666304]

Wouldnt it make alot more sense to move Soriano back to 2B and Fox to LF.

 

As bad as Soriano was at 2B I would probably say he would be better then Fox.

 

Since we're talking about outrageous ideas, that is less outrageous than putting Fox at second, which is truly, truly outrageous.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

just hear me out guys what if jake fox can pitch i mean who knows right

 

I'm thinking we spend this fall making Vitters into the first infielder/short reliever.

[Donbedouin]

If defense doesn't matter then until Reed gets back we should go early '07 against LHP and play Soriano in center, and then have Fox in left and Milton in right.

 

(shudder)

[Jehrico]

Could this simply be a ploy to boost his trade value during the offseason? He's always had the ability to hit, but if we could show that he could play (he can't, but for arguments sake) an almost passable (as in D-) middle infield, 3b, corner OF, or emergency catcher, I would have to think it'd have a significant boost on his potential trade value.

[Backtobanks]

Fox's bat isn't that good.

 

Hes better than Bradley, and cant be much worse defensively. I cant see him making it as a middle infielder, as hes simply not built for it. I cant see him leaping over a guy trying to break up double play. In a perfect world, we could trade Bradley to someone willing to take on a decent chunk of his salary, and use that money to get a 2B or SS.

 

I don't think too many guys are going to slide into him trying to break up a double play. Seriously, anybody who thinks Fox could play 2B is smoking something. Fox can either continue in the role he's in now or be packaged in the offseason as a 1B/DH.

[soapy]

if he's going to play in the fall league, it should be at 3B, LF, RF, 1B and/or C, which i'm guessing is what will actually happen. i think this is an idea that will go nowhere so i'm not terribly concerned about it. bring him back next year in the same role he's in now. if he has a reasonable handle on all the positions above, he'll get plenty of playing time.

[Old Style]

Fox CAN'T play second. He doesn't hit lefty.

[Banedon]

Pretty sure that this is just a made up ESPN rumor. A google search found this thread (and the locked one) to the be the only relevant mentions of Jake Fox trying 2b.

[Wheelimus]

It would sure make me wish I could attend Arizona Fall League games. Because this would be must see, just not in the way I'm used to thinking of "must see".

 

It would be like buying a ticket to see Joey Gathright jump a car...but secretly Gathright doesn't know there's a strategically placed brick wall on the other side. And Chris Tucker is hiding, waiting to scream "YOU JUST GOT KNOCKED THE fudge OUT".

[jersey cubs fan]

Why do so many people think "why not try him at 2B" for guys who struggle at the corners? If you are a little to bulky, slow and fluid to be the regular 3B or LF, why would 2B be the place to go?

[CUBZ99]

Why do so many people think "why not try him at 2B" for guys who struggle at the corners? If you are a little to bulky, slow and fluid to be the regular 3B or LF, why would 2B be the place to go?

 

From my understanding it wasn't his bulkiness that prevented him from playing regular 3b or LF, but instead the fact that Aram is back and Soriano is playing LF. Lou has already stated that he made a mistake by not putting Fox at 3B sooner.

 

I would not have a problem with giving Fox a shot at 2b during the fall league. For one, the fall league games don't count, so if they run him out there and he is terrible it won't matter. Also, Fox has really opened some eyes this year, and has proven most of his detractors wrong. Although he will likely never win a gold glove he has shown that he is adequate with his glove at 3B, 1B and the OF. Why not reward him with a chance to play 2b over the fall? Looking at the Cubs lineup for next year, there is only one position that would give Fox a chance to play every day. If he sucks, like everyone seems to think is a foregone conclusion, there is nothing lost.

[Sammy Sofa]

NSBB has jumped the shark.

 

This is some primo, classic Cubs.com [expletive] right here that should be dogpiled.

[jersey cubs fan]

I dont' see how trying Fox at 2B would be a disaster.

 

People have been crying out all season about how horrible it would be to have Fox in the major league OF, and then 3B, and then behind the plate. They were wrong every time. He's been fine. And two weeks in the fall flirting with 2b isn't going to destroy his progress at any of those other positions.

[Sammy Sofa]

I dont' see how trying Fox at 2B would be a disaster.

 

People have been crying out all season about how horrible it would be to have Fox in the major league OF, and then 3B, and then behind the plate. They were wrong every time. He's been fine. And two weeks in the fall flirting with 2b isn't going to destroy his progress at any of those other positions.

 

Because it's a waste of time. All you have to do is look at Fox and it's plain as day that in no sane world will he be able to be a passable middle infielder.

 

And yes, it would be horrible to have Fox as a fulltime OFer, 3rd baseman or catcher.

[CUBZ99]

I dont' see how trying Fox at 2B would be a disaster.

 

People have been crying out all season about how horrible it would be to have Fox in the major league OF, and then 3B, and then behind the plate. They were wrong every time. He's been fine. And two weeks in the fall flirting with 2b isn't going to destroy his progress at any of those other positions.

 

Because it's a waste of time. All you have to do is look at Fox and it's plain as day that in no sane world will he be able to be a passable middle infielder.

 

And yes, it would be horrible to have Fox as a fulltime OFer, 3rd baseman or catcher.

 

He has been more than adequate so far at every position they have placed him at (except maybe C). He is not going to win a gold glove, but based on his play so far in the field he is definitely not horrible.

[MADD_DOG_31]

They need to teach him how to catch well enough to be the backup, then he could backup C, 1B, 3B, LF, and RF and he would be in the lineup 3-5 times a week and everyday if an injury happens

[Prizefight]

This is a terrible idea.

 

/thread imo

[Sammy Sofa]

I dont' see how trying Fox at 2B would be a disaster.

 

People have been crying out all season about how horrible it would be to have Fox in the major league OF, and then 3B, and then behind the plate. They were wrong every time. He's been fine. And two weeks in the fall flirting with 2b isn't going to destroy his progress at any of those other positions.

 

Because it's a waste of time. All you have to do is look at Fox and it's plain as day that in no sane world will he be able to be a passable middle infielder.

 

And yes, it would be horrible to have Fox as a fulltime OFer, 3rd baseman or catcher.

 

He has been more than adequate so far at every position they have placed him at (except maybe C). He is not going to win a gold glove, but based on his play so far in the field he is definitely not horrible.

 

He's definitely been tolerable in the very limited sample size so far. The only position he's come even remotely close to playing enough times to make a judgement call on is 3B and even that he hasn't really played for any significant amount of time.

 

I'm not adverse at all for him to get the start when Aramis, Bardley or Soriano get their days off. I would never want to see him as anything more than the emergency catcher when it comes to being behind the plate. He was truly horrendous as a fulltime catcher before and I seriously doubt he's just "switched it on" in regards to the most important defensive position on the field besides the pitcher. That said, I would not be adverse to him playing catcher in the Fall or Winter Leagues since he at least has experience there and maybe he could shore things up even just a little bit where he could perhaps be the backup catcher if the Cubs still have him next year. That makes infinitely more sense than plunking him in as a middle infielder.

Edited August 4, 2009 by Sammy Sofa

[Guest]

They should be working their arses off to turn him into Doumit, not Jeff Kent.

[Irrelevant Dude]

I see Fox more as a potential replacement for Lee in 2011, meaning he would spend all of 2010 in a role similar to what he is playing now. That's really the only spot he fits on this roster.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I see Fox more as a potential replacement for Lee in 2011, meaning he would spend all of 2010 in a role similar to what he is playing now. That's really the only spot he fits on this roster.

 

I agree. Have him do what hes doing now next year, and if he keeps doing what he has been this year offensively, he should be given the 1B jon in 2011.