Heath Bell Rumor?

[UK1679666180]

I'm all for it. Wells is a marginal pitcher that is pitching well right now, Bell has been one the 3 best relievers in baseball over the last 3 years.

 

Trade for Bell and F. Sanchez, win the division, and hope they don't choke in the playoffs.

[weis21]

I'm all for it. Wells is a marginal pitcher that is pitching well right now, Bell has been one the 3 best relievers in baseball over the last 3 years.

 

Trade for Bell and F. Sanchez, win the division, and hope they don't choke in the playoffs.

I've been on the Sanchez bandwagon for some time now. Sign me up.

[davearm2]

I'm surprised nobody's suggested resolving the Patton situation by including him in a package to a cash-strapped, out-of-contention team like SD. Not straight up for Bell of course, but he could plug in to the SD 'pen with Bell vacating. Hard to imagine SD would have any problems with the Rule 5 stipulations that come with Patton, provided they think he's got an arm worth adding to their system.

 

There's a win-win for ya.

[RedFlash]

Can we safely assume that this Bell rumor is more of wishful thinking then an actual rumor?

[CyHawk_Cub]

Can we safely assume that this Bell rumor is more of wishful thinking then an actual rumor?

 

Seems that way...though personally, I'm not wishing for it

[SCCubbieFAN]

I've been on the fence thru-out this thread seeing good points both for and against a Wells for Bell straight up trade, but after another fine performance by Wells last night, I'm in the camp that thinks that his current value, whether real or perceived, should be used to get the Cubs a good offensive bat rather than a reliever, no matter how good that reliever is.

[dew1679666265]

I've been on the fence thru-out this thread seeing good points both for and against a Wells for Bell straight up trade, but after another fine performance by Wells last night, I'm in the camp that thinks that his current value, whether real or perceived, should be used to get the Cubs a good offensive bat rather than a reliever, no matter how good that reliever is.

 

The question is, what good offensive bat can we get this year? Especially if the Baker trade confirms that Hendry is committed to Fontenot at second base?

[SCCubbieFAN]

I've been on the fence thru-out this thread seeing good points both for and against a Wells for Bell straight up trade, but after another fine performance by Wells last night, I'm in the camp that thinks that his current value, whether real or perceived, should be used to get the Cubs a good offensive bat rather than a reliever, no matter how good that reliever is.

 

The question is, what good offensive bat can we get this year? Especially if the Baker trade confirms that Hendry is committed to Fontenot at second base?

 

There have been several names mentioned in threads/posts, some that realistically might be had in a trade that involved Wells. The Pirates have always been a good trade partner w/the Cubs and are already selling off pieces. F. Sanchez would be a good/smart target.

[dew1679666265]

I've been on the fence thru-out this thread seeing good points both for and against a Wells for Bell straight up trade, but after another fine performance by Wells last night, I'm in the camp that thinks that his current value, whether real or perceived, should be used to get the Cubs a good offensive bat rather than a reliever, no matter how good that reliever is.

 

The question is, what good offensive bat can we get this year? Especially if the Baker trade confirms that Hendry is committed to Fontenot at second base?

 

There have been several names mentioned in threads/posts, some that realistically might be had in a trade that involved Wells. The Pirates have always been a good trade partner w/the Cubs and are already selling off pieces. F. Sanchez would be a good/smart target.

 

The problem with acquiring a second baseman, though, is that Hendry appears to be committed to Fontenot at second base.

[UK1679666180]

I've been on the fence thru-out this thread seeing good points both for and against a Wells for Bell straight up trade, but after another fine performance by Wells last night, I'm in the camp that thinks that his current value, whether real or perceived, should be used to get the Cubs a good offensive bat rather than a reliever, no matter how good that reliever is.

 

The question is, what good offensive bat can we get this year? Especially if the Baker trade confirms that Hendry is committed to Fontenot at second base?

 

There have been several names mentioned in threads/posts, some that realistically might be had in a trade that involved Wells. The Pirates have always been a good trade partner w/the Cubs and are already selling off pieces. F. Sanchez would be a good/smart target.

 

If they go with Baker/Fontenot at 2B (depending on Baker's health as already mentioned), they'll give that a shot before anything else.

 

They didn't give up much for Baker, so it's worth finding out between now and the deadline whether or not that could be adequate enough for 2B.

 

I doubt the Cubs have the financial ability to add much payroll, which is what makes Bell a nice option given his minimal contract.

[jersey cubs fan]

I've been on the fence thru-out this thread seeing good points both for and against a Wells for Bell straight up trade, but after another fine performance by Wells last night, I'm in the camp that thinks that his current value, whether real or perceived, should be used to get the Cubs a good offensive bat rather than a reliever, no matter how good that reliever is.

 

The question is, what good offensive bat can we get this year? Especially if the Baker trade confirms that Hendry is committed to Fontenot at second base?

 

There have been several names mentioned in threads/posts, some that realistically might be had in a trade that involved Wells. The Pirates have always been a good trade partner w/the Cubs and are already selling off pieces. F. Sanchez would be a good/smart target.

 

The problem with acquiring a second baseman, though, is that Hendry appears to be committed to Fontenot at second base.

 

Just because Hendry is committed to something doesn't mean it's the right decision. Regardless, they have a month before the trading deadline, maybe he's committed to it until then. There's no reason to sell off what limited resources you have for another reliever when in a month you may regret not having those resources for something that will actually have a significant impact.

[dew1679666265]

I've been on the fence thru-out this thread seeing good points both for and against a Wells for Bell straight up trade, but after another fine performance by Wells last night, I'm in the camp that thinks that his current value, whether real or perceived, should be used to get the Cubs a good offensive bat rather than a reliever, no matter how good that reliever is.

 

The question is, what good offensive bat can we get this year? Especially if the Baker trade confirms that Hendry is committed to Fontenot at second base?

 

There have been several names mentioned in threads/posts, some that realistically might be had in a trade that involved Wells. The Pirates have always been a good trade partner w/the Cubs and are already selling off pieces. F. Sanchez would be a good/smart target.

 

The problem with acquiring a second baseman, though, is that Hendry appears to be committed to Fontenot at second base.

 

Just because Hendry is committed to something doesn't mean it's the right decision. Regardless, they have a month before the trading deadline, maybe he's committed to it until then. There's no reason to sell off what limited resources you have for another reliever when in a month you may regret not having those resources for something that will actually have a significant impact.

 

Significant offensive upgrades almost certainly cost money - something the Cubs don't have much, if any of at their disposal. It's likely not a matter of Hendry changing his mind, it's more a matter of Hendry finding a few million somewhere to be able to spend.

 

I'm fine with waiting a month and seeing what happens, but if a Wells for Bell trade happened today it would be an upgrade - and likely the best upgrade the Cubs can afford.

[jersey cubs fan]

The sales talks have reportedly heated up the past couple weeks, Ricketts may be able to give Hendry the green light in a couple weeks.

[dew1679666265]

The sales talks have reportedly heated up the past couple weeks, Ricketts may be able to give Hendry the green light in a couple weeks.

 

Like I said, I'd be fine with waiting a bit. I don't think we should be desperate at this point.

 

But, it's highly unlikely Ricketts will be able to get the sale completed, give Hendry the ok and then Hendry work out a good deal all in the span of a month. I'd love it if that happened, but that would be a complete change from the pace the sale has taken the past 2 years.

[JeffH]

Just because Hendry is committed to something doesn't mean it's the right decision.

 

Truer words have never been spoken.

[CyHawk_Cub]

I'm not exactly clamoring for a Wells for Bell trade, but I wouldn't be overly upset if it happened either. I understand what Wells' probable ceiling is, & the reality is that he wouldn't fetch us a "good" bat in return, this year at least due to his likely value around the league. I just have a fundamental issue with trading a "decent" starting pitcher (which seems to be the consensus regarding Wells' ceiling) for a "good" relief pitcher. I see arguments all the time how SP is so much more important than bullpen arms....and I agree with those arguments. And if we can wait 8 weeks for ARam to come back, we sure as hell can wait several more days for Guz to come back as well.

[jersey cubs fan]

The sales talks have reportedly heated up the past couple weeks, Ricketts may be able to give Hendry the green light in a couple weeks.

 

Like I said, I'd be fine with waiting a bit. I don't think we should be desperate at this point.

 

But, it's highly unlikely Ricketts will be able to get the sale completed, give Hendry the ok and then Hendry work out a good deal all in the span of a month. I'd love it if that happened, but that would be a complete change from the pace the sale has taken the past 2 years.

 

The pace of the sale is going to stop instantaneously once an agreement is signed. Hendry does not need more than a day to make a trade. He could already be in contact with Jim saying that once it gets to a certain stage, Hendry has the authorization to make a move.

 

Maybe the sale doesn't go through until next year, maybe it's done tomorrow.

[CubColtPacer]

The sales talks have reportedly heated up the past couple weeks, Ricketts may be able to give Hendry the green light in a couple weeks.

 

Like I said, I'd be fine with waiting a bit. I don't think we should be desperate at this point.

 

But, it's highly unlikely Ricketts will be able to get the sale completed, give Hendry the ok and then Hendry work out a good deal all in the span of a month. I'd love it if that happened, but that would be a complete change from the pace the sale has taken the past 2 years.

 

The pace of the sale is going to stop instantaneously once an agreement is signed. Hendry does not need more than a day to make a trade. He could already be in contact with Jim saying that once it gets to a certain stage, Hendry has the authorization to make a move.

 

Maybe the sale doesn't go through until next year, maybe it's done tomorrow.

 

It still has to go through MLB offices and probably bankruptcy court as well. MLB will be quick in getting it approved, but it's hard to tell with the courts. It certainly won't be done tomorrow.

[dew1679666265]

The sales talks have reportedly heated up the past couple weeks, Ricketts may be able to give Hendry the green light in a couple weeks.

 

Like I said, I'd be fine with waiting a bit. I don't think we should be desperate at this point.

 

But, it's highly unlikely Ricketts will be able to get the sale completed, give Hendry the ok and then Hendry work out a good deal all in the span of a month. I'd love it if that happened, but that would be a complete change from the pace the sale has taken the past 2 years.

 

The pace of the sale is going to stop instantaneously once an agreement is signed. Hendry does not need more than a day to make a trade. He could already be in contact with Jim saying that once it gets to a certain stage, Hendry has the authorization to make a move.

 

Maybe the sale doesn't go through until next year, maybe it's done tomorrow.

 

The bolded is the whole point, though. Nobody knows when the sale might go through and while we're waiting for something that may or may not come, chances to upgrade the team might go to other teams. I'm fine with waiting a while, but if a good deal is on the table (which trading a fringe pitcher having a very good few starts for an excellent reliever is) then I think you strong consider doing it.

 

And what if the sale goes through but Ricketts won't approve more money until the offseason or next year? Then Hendry would have wasted quite a bit of time.

[Backtobanks]

I've been on the fence thru-out this thread seeing good points both for and against a Wells for Bell straight up trade, but after another fine performance by Wells last night, I'm in the camp that thinks that his current value, whether real or perceived, should be used to get the Cubs a good offensive bat rather than a reliever, no matter how good that reliever is.

 

The question is, what good offensive bat can we get this year? Especially if the Baker trade confirms that Hendry is committed to Fontenot at second base?

 

There have been several names mentioned in threads/posts, some that realistically might be had in a trade that involved Wells. The Pirates have always been a good trade partner w/the Cubs and are already selling off pieces. F. Sanchez would be a good/smart target.

 

The problem with acquiring a second baseman, though, is that Hendry appears to be committed to Fontenot at second base.

 

 

He's a lefty. Enuff said.