Bradley's Very Own Injury Thread

[Tyrant]

Jim Hendry is so fat that when the circus came to town and forgot their tent he loaned them his panties to use instead.

 

Link?

 

http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/warehouse/storage2/2007-w39/img.07957_t.jpg

 

Granted hes no Alexei Ramirez, but Hendry is of pretty average build for a man his age for someone who warrants so many fat jokes.

 

If I were going to make a fat joke about one of the two men in that photo, I wouldn't choose Hendry.

[jersey cubs fan]

Jim Hendry is not of average build.

[badnews]

Yes, his slow start was a surprise. Anyone who says they knew he would underperform is a [expletive] liar. What he has shown throughout his career is that when he's not missing time is that he produces at the plate. Everyone knew he'd likely miss significant time this season...what nobody knew was that he'd start so slowly. He also has not been "worthless" the entire stretch of the season so far, but why let reality get in the way of another Jim Hendry fat joke?

 

So I'm a liar because I've been saying he'd be a big letdown from Day 1 and I have the posting history to prove it? And not just a liar. An expletive liar. Oh my.

 

Well you can be the last one to go down with the ship Cap'N. Bradley never convinced me, because these .765 OPS corner outfield jokers can make parts of seasons look good and yes, a .400 BABIP in Texas is ultimately quite convincing.

 

And nobody would have any idea he'd have injuries to his legs. Give me a break.

[SouthSideRyan]

Yes, his slow start was a surprise. Anyone who says they knew he would underperform is a [expletive] liar. What he has shown throughout his career is that when he's not missing time is that he produces at the plate. Everyone knew he'd likely miss significant time this season...what nobody knew was that he'd start so slowly. He also has not been "worthless" the entire stretch of the season so far, but why let reality get in the way of another Jim Hendry fat joke?

 

So I'm a liar because I've been saying he'd be a big letdown from Day 1 and I have the posting history to prove it? And not just a liar. An expletive liar. Oh my.

 

Well you can be the last one to go down with the ship Cap'N. Bradley never convinced me, because these .765 OPS corner outfield jokers can make parts of seasons look good and yes, a .400 BABIP in Texas is ultimately quite convincing.

 

And nobody would have any idea he'd have injuries to his legs. Give me a break.

 

Oh you predicted doom and gloom, I'm [expletive] stunned.

[Soul]

Jim Hendry is not of average build.

 

He's really not that fat. I think his face is more pudgy than the rest of his body. He's probably eating better since the heart problem.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yes, his slow start was a surprise. Anyone who says they knew he would underperform is a [expletive] liar. What he has shown throughout his career is that when he's not missing time is that he produces at the plate. Everyone knew he'd likely miss significant time this season...what nobody knew was that he'd start so slowly. He also has not been "worthless" the entire stretch of the season so far, but why let reality get in the way of another Jim Hendry fat joke?

 

So I'm a liar because I've been saying he'd be a big letdown from Day 1 and I have the posting history to prove it? And not just a liar. An expletive liar. Oh my.

 

Well you can be the last one to go down with the ship Cap'N. Bradley never convinced me, because these .765 OPS corner outfield jokers can make parts of seasons look good and yes, a .400 BABIP in Texas is ultimately quite convincing.

 

And nobody would have any idea he'd have injuries to his legs. Give me a break.

 

Oh you predicted doom and gloom, I'm [expletive] stunned.

 

Yeah, badnews wants a cookie because one of his usual vague "this is going to fail" rants came through.

[SouthSideRyan]

In case anyone's wondering the last time Milton Bradley, a 765 OPS joker, had an OPS that low was 2002.

[17 Seconds]

Yes, his slow start was a surprise. Anyone who says they knew he would underperform is a [expletive] liar. What he has shown throughout his career is that when he's not missing time is that he produces at the plate. Everyone knew he'd likely miss significant time this season...what nobody knew was that he'd start so slowly. He also has not been "worthless" the entire stretch of the season so far, but why let reality get in the way of another Jim Hendry fat joke?

 

So I'm a liar because I've been saying he'd be a big letdown from Day 1 and I have the posting history to prove it? And not just a liar. An expletive liar. Oh my.

 

Well you can be the last one to go down with the ship Cap'N. Bradley never convinced me, because these .765 OPS corner outfield jokers can make parts of seasons look good and yes, a .400 BABIP in Texas is ultimately quite convincing.

 

And nobody would have any idea he'd have injuries to his legs. Give me a break.

 

for some reason a lot of people here continue to insist that bradley has had some kind of badass hitting history when he's on the field, even though the numbers clearly show that to be false.

 

"but if you look at his road numbers for seasons x, y, x, and omit this portion of the numbers, and take into account his age, and multiply by the square root of number of plate appearances, he has a career .868 OPS"

[badnews]

Yes, his slow start was a surprise. Anyone who says they knew he would underperform is a [expletive] liar. What he has shown throughout his career is that when he's not missing time is that he produces at the plate. Everyone knew he'd likely miss significant time this season...what nobody knew was that he'd start so slowly. He also has not been "worthless" the entire stretch of the season so far, but why let reality get in the way of another Jim Hendry fat joke?

 

So I'm a liar because I've been saying he'd be a big letdown from Day 1 and I have the posting history to prove it? And not just a liar. An expletive liar. Oh my.

 

Well you can be the last one to go down with the ship Cap'N. Bradley never convinced me, because these .765 OPS corner outfield jokers can make parts of seasons look good and yes, a .400 BABIP in Texas is ultimately quite convincing.

 

And nobody would have any idea he'd have injuries to his legs. Give me a break.

 

Oh you predicted doom and gloom, I'm [expletive] stunned.

 

Yeah, badnews wants a cookie because one of his usual vague "this is going to fail" rants came through.

 

There was nothing even remotely vague about my dislike of Milton Bradley. I pretty clearly stated what I did not like and why I thought it was a bad investment.

 

I will re-state again, just to be perfectly clear. The idea that "no one who says they could've seen this coming is an expletive liar" laughably wrong.

[UMFan83]

I assumed (and still assume) that Bradley would work out quite nicely this year on the Cubs because:

 

A) He is coming off the best statistical season of his career

B) He is slipping into the best offense in the NL last year

C) He has always shown above average to excellent plate discipline

D) Moving from the AL to the NL (NL Central at that) would negate the change in ballparks and a bit of regression.

 

You know why people always have to use fragmented statistics to show the worth of MIlton Bradey? Because his whole career is fragments! Look at his numbers, because of many reasons (sporatic playing time due to injuries, changing teams constantly) his career numbers jump all over the place from year to year. The point is, he is just as likely to put up a .925 OPS season as he is a .825 OPS season. You can't blame anyone who has predicted big things from Milton when you see his OPS jump up from .818 in 06 to .947 in 07 to .999 in 08. Are we supposed to use his '07 and prior numbers to project this years numbers or something?

 

I'm not sure how the Bradley era will turn out in Chicago, but 39 games is way too little for the doubters to start shouting "I told you so", yet people have been doing so since at least 15 games prior.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

People wanting to bash the Bradley deal probably shouldn't bring up BABIP, considering Milton's is currently under .240 and is likely to rise by a substantial margin.

[badnews]

In case anyone's wondering the last time Milton Bradley, a 765 OPS joker, had an OPS that low was 2002.

 

Well, you can take the obtuse route, but I will clear it up.

 

_ Guys who can't stay healthy DHing are a bad bet to stay healthy playing right field for the Cubs.

 

- .765 vs. whatever you like. The point is, with corner outfielders, you can usually cobble together a .780, a .790, whatever, OPS peformance without having to invest a lot of money.

 

- Nobody who plays for the Chicago Cubs should have a persecution complex or pronounced emotional instability, regardless of whether it is justified.

 

- Bits and pieces of good seasons are not substitutes for good seasons. Victor Diaz has parts of good seasons. It doesn't mean you run out and invest a lot of money in Victor Diaz.

 

Assuming you can even view Milton Bradley as a right fielder, which is in itself dubious, start making a list of the right fielders in baseball better than him. It adds up to a lot.

 

So great. In the end, he'll get hot for a few games against some team's #4 and #5 starters, not play enough games, and in the end we'll end up with a little less than the production we got from Jeromy Burnitz or the platoon mess of 2007 that yielded a .794 OPS.

 

I think anyone who thought Bradley was going to be a substantial asset were probably in that same class of people who convinced themselves that by midseason 2007 Eric Byrnes was the missing piece to a Cubs World Series.

 

To conclude, the major leagues are lousy with outfielders who don't play close to a full season but have a respectable career OPS. Now let's get out there and get Jonny Gomes.

 

Milton Bradley goes on the same outfielder pile as Juan Rivera. Yeah, there may be a good player somewhere in Juan Rivera but you're stupid to commit any resources to find out.

[17 Seconds]

The point is, he is just as likely to put up a .925 OPS season as he is a .825 OPS season. .

 

how can you possibly say that when he has a career .823 OPS?

 

You can't blame anyone who has predicted big things from Milton when you see his OPS jump up from .818 in 06 to .947 in 07 to .999 in 08. Are we supposed to use his '07 and prior numbers to project this years numbers or something?

 

you're supposed to look at his entire body of work and take into account that 2007 was really like 2 months, and that in 2008 he played in a ridiculous park and had a ridiculous babip. he had an .870 OPS away from arlington last season.

 

i thought he'd be good, but i never understood why people were acing like it was a sure thing that he'd be some great hitter when healthy. he's been a great hitter for a very small portion of his career.

[Little Slide Rooter]

No question that Bradley could give us those kinds of numbers, but when you're in win now mode, why go after such an enigma of a player and not more of a safe bet who you can pretty much guarantee will OPS around .900?

[17 Seconds]

like adam dunn?

[Little Slide Rooter]

like adam dunn.

[dew1679666265]

like adam dunn.

 

I was a Dunn supporter in the offseason, but keep in mind you have to weigh his offensive production with his awful outfield defense. That defense negates at least some of his value offensively.

[Joe_Cub]

so when is he supposed to visit the starting lineup again?

[Guest]

The point is, he is just as likely to put up a .925 OPS season as he is a .825 OPS season. .

 

how can you possibly say that when he has a career .823 OPS?

 

How can you possibly keep throwing his career OPS number like it's supposed to predict exactly what he's going to do this year? You're including his first three season in the league (ages 22-24).

 

It's like say that Sammy Sosa averaged a HR every 32 at bats in 1991 (age 22 season) and because of that it's obvious that he used steroids.

 

Players get better and not everybody comes into the league and rakes right away. From 2003-08 Milton had an OPS of .879.

[Andy]

like adam dunn.

 

I was a Dunn supporter in the offseason, but keep in mind you have to weigh his offensive production with his awful outfield defense. That defense negates at least some of his value offensively.

Not to step on your point here, because it's valid, but it's not like Milton Bradley is Kosuke Fukudome out there in right field. He's pretty mediocre himself.

[SouthSideRyan]

like adam dunn.

 

I was a Dunn supporter in the offseason, but keep in mind you have to weigh his offensive production with his awful outfield defense. That defense negates at least some of his value offensively.

Not to step on your point here, because it's valid, but it's not like Milton Bradley is Kosuke Fukudome out there in right field. He's pretty mediocre himself.

 

Bradley's an above average defensive RF and Dunn is well below average. There's a sizable difference. Dunn's durability is the difference.

[manbearcub]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3039/2655307874_811b9f6520.jpg

 

FAT

[bhogg]

Hendy has a fat bank roll, G.

 

I don't give two craps about Milton Bradley.

[manbearcub]

Hendy has a fat bank roll, G.

 

I don't give two craps about Milton Bradley.

Jim Hendry gives two craps about Milton Bradley. Two huge, rancid, atomic powered craps. The type of crap that makes an innocent who wanders into the restroom keel over from the overpowering stench. The type that makes the the next poor soul to walks into the stall want to snap a commemorative photo on their cell phone to share with the broheim/broseph/broskie.

 

That is how much of a crap Jim Hendry gives about Milton Bradley

[17 Seconds]

The point is, he is just as likely to put up a .925 OPS season as he is a .825 OPS season. .

 

how can you possibly say that when he has a career .823 OPS?

 

How can you possibly keep throwing his career OPS number like it's supposed to predict exactly what he's going to do this year? You're including his first three season in the league (ages 22-24).

 

It's like say that Sammy Sosa averaged a HR every 32 at bats in 1991 (age 22 season) and because of that it's obvious that he used steroids.

 

Players get better and not everybody comes into the league and rakes right away. From 2003-08 Milton had an OPS of .879.

 

And right on cue, here we go with the skewed Bradley stats to make it look like he's been a badass hitter over the 5 years. Saying he's been an .879 OPS hitter from 03-08 is dumb. No, more like he's been a 1.000 OPS hitter for the last 600 at-bats (most of which came in Texas, big surprise) and has been his typical .820ish OPS guy the previous 3 years

 

04- .786

05- .835

05- .818

 

so uhh, yeah... he's been an .879 OPS guy for the past 5 years. Except for those 3 straight year where he, uh, wasn't

 

The reason I talk about his career OPS is because he's performed to that level for most of his playing career.

 

You know how many seasons he's had with an OPS over .835?

 

THREE

 

And that's being really generous, considering the total PA's of those 3 seasons really add up to about 2 full seasons worth of at-bats.

 

I don't understand why this guy continues to get some kind of free pass, like he has an awesome track record of hitting or something, and he's sure to turn it around. Guess what guys? For the vast majority of his career, he hasn't been a great hitter.