May 27 Cubs (Zambrano) vs Pirates (Duke) 1:20 CST

[jersey cubs fan]

Carlos ejected the umpire because he initiated the contact. Z did push back.

 

Haha. As soon as I say this MLB.tv catches up and Bob points it out as I type it.

 

Doesn't matter. A player doesn't have a right to stand in the ump's face and argue a call. If contact happens while the player is doing that, that's his own fault.

 

That's not true. Players absolutey have the right to argue. They get away with it with regularity. Umps have been reprimanded for provoking incidents, it could happen again.

[laurens]

Ron THeriot is having a pretty good day

 

Is he new? I hope hes better than Blanco,

 

Yeah, apparently he's Ryan's identical twin that thinks fielding pct is the best way to rate a player defensively.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Moss singled to right field

[Little Slide Rooter]

The camera angle can distort our perceptions as to what's high, low, inside, outside, but it has no effect whatsoever on our ability to tell if an umpire is calling a zone consistently.

 

I question whether the human eye and brain has that ability under any circumstances. That's an awfully high degree of differentiation you are asking them to take on.

well, if your argument is that humans are physiologically or psychologically incapable of being competent umpires, that's a legitimate position, but I don't think most people will agree that no one can do it.

 

Maybe since Lou wont erupt, Z was just taking matters into his own hands.

[Sammys Boombox]

Morgan was safe. I have DVR.

 

This is really funny taken out of context.

 

I have DVR and I don't think you can conclusively say he got the left hand in there. I think he most likely did, but it is not 100% certain.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Morgan was safe. I have DVR.

 

This is really funny taken out of context.

 

I have DVR and I don't think you can conclusively say he got the left hand in there. I think he most likely did, but it is not 100% certain.

 

I dont have a DVR. Can you recomend a good one?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

That's not true. Players absolutey have the right to argue. They get away with it with regularity. Umps have been reprimanded for provoking incidents, it could happen again.

 

Getting away with it and having the right to do it aren't really the same thing.

[Cubswin11]

Maybe the pitching staff has a bet to see who can get Lou to go out there and get ejected first. With Lilly's and Z's actions the last few days.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Vazquez struck out swinging

[jersey cubs fan]

That's not true. Players absolutey have the right to argue. They get away with it with regularity. Umps have been reprimanded for provoking incidents, it could happen again.

 

Getting away with it and having the right to do it aren't really the same thing.

 

Yes they are, the precedent has been set for decades that players are allowed to argue right in front of the ump.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Did I mention I really want to win this game, especially with the Dodgers coming to town.

[Sammys Boombox]

Carlos ejected the umpire because he initiated the contact. Z did push back.

 

Haha. As soon as I say this MLB.tv catches up and Bob points it out as I type it.

 

Doesn't matter. A player doesn't have a right to stand in the ump's face and argue a call. If contact happens while the player is doing that, that's his own fault.

 

That's not true. Players absolutey have the right to argue. They get away with it with regularity. Umps have been reprimanded for provoking incidents, it could happen again.

 

Even if he didn't have the right to get in his face to argue the call MLB can't suspend Z for making contact when he didn't initiate it.

[gflore34]

That's not true. Players absolutey have the right to argue. They get away with it with regularity. Umps have been reprimanded for provoking incidents, it could happen again.

 

Getting away with it and having the right to do it aren't really the same thing.

 

I wonder if, like Big 10 BB Officials, some MLB Umpires think the fans come to see them and not the baseball.

[cubswin2009]

It would have been awesome if Milton Bradley came in from RF and helped Zambrano out. He could have done the ballbag throwing:

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5030/15916039se2.jpg

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE EIGHTH INNING

 

Marmol in to pitch for the CUBS

An LaRoche flied out to center field

Moss singled to right field

Vazquez struck out swinging

Jaramillo flied out to left field

 

0 runs 1 hits 0 errors 1 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
Pittsburgh      0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0                2  8  1
CUBS            2 0 0 0 0 0 0                  2  8  0

 

Home runs:

Pittsburgh: none

CUBS: none

 

Pittsburgh     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Duke          7.0  8  2  2  2  3  0 105

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Zambrano      6.3  7  2  1  2  6  0 114
Guzman        0.7  0  0  0  0  0  0   8
Marmol        1.0  1  0  0  0  1  0  17

[Jake]

Please tell me Duke's not going out there again.

[jersey cubs fan]

Carlos ejected the umpire because he initiated the contact. Z did push back.

 

Haha. As soon as I say this MLB.tv catches up and Bob points it out as I type it.

 

Doesn't matter. A player doesn't have a right to stand in the ump's face and argue a call. If contact happens while the player is doing that, that's his own fault.

 

That's not true. Players absolutey have the right to argue. They get away with it with regularity. Umps have been reprimanded for provoking incidents, it could happen again.

 

Even if he didn't have the right to get in his face to argue the call MLB can't suspend Z for making contact when he didn't initiate it.

 

They can do whatever they want though.

[Sammys Boombox]

Morgan was safe. I have DVR.

 

This is really funny taken out of context.

 

I have DVR and I don't think you can conclusively say he got the left hand in there. I think he most likely did, but it is not 100% certain.

 

I dont have a DVR. Can you recomend a good one?

 

Well, MLB.tv has DVR. That's what I'm using.

[laurens]

Please tell me Duke's not going out there again.

 

Jesse Chavez is in

[Ihatepujols]

He was [expletive] out!!! Z is probably gonna get suspended now....[expletive]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

He was clearly safe, and it wasn't even close Morgan had almost his whole left arm over the plate.

 

 

I Had myself a good excuse as to why we lost the game today...why you gotta take it away from me?

[jersey cubs fan]

Please tell me Duke's not going out there again.

 

Looks like Chavez Chavez is replacing him.

[Outshined_One]

Please tell me Duke's not going out there again.

 

Looks like Chavez Chavez is replacing him.

 

Kinda like Duran Duran?

[Sammys Boombox]

Carlos ejected the umpire because he initiated the contact. Z did push back.

 

Haha. As soon as I say this MLB.tv catches up and Bob points it out as I type it.

 

Doesn't matter. A player doesn't have a right to stand in the ump's face and argue a call. If contact happens while the player is doing that, that's his own fault.

 

That's not true. Players absolutey have the right to argue. They get away with it with regularity. Umps have been reprimanded for provoking incidents, it could happen again.

 

Even if he didn't have the right to get in his face to argue the call MLB can't suspend Z for making contact when he didn't initiate it.

 

They can do whatever they want though.

 

The next grievance the Players' Union has should be the ridiculous rights the Umpires' Union has.

[Fred Hornkohl]

D Lee flied out to right field

[Guest]

Morgan was safe. I have DVR.

 

This is really funny taken out of context.

 

I have DVR and I don't think you can conclusively say he got the left hand in there. I think he most likely did, but it is not 100% certain.

 

Your DVR sucks. Just kidding. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. But, the one thing I noticed on all the replays I saw that really stuck out the most was that no one was in a better position to call Morgan safe than the umpire. He was in an absolutely perfect spot to see it all, and there wasn't one single camera angle that had a better view than he did.