2010 NFL Draft

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LSU WR/HB Trindon Holliday ran a 4.22 40 today. I believe that's faster than Chris Johnson's last year.

 

Holliday is only like 5'5, though.

 

Correction:

 

Holliday's time was unofficial. His official 40 time was a 4.34. CJ's record is still intact.

 

Golden Tate ran a 4.36. That ought to help his stock.

 

I hope he doesn't jump into the first. I believe I said in the college football forum that I think he is destined to be a very good pro WR. He just seems to know how to get open. His hands need work but he wasn't a WR until recently so they should improve. I think he is a matchup nightmare though due to speed, agility and power. I would very pleased and hope the 49ers take him in the 2nd but I highly doubt we draft any receivers any higher than round three due to having Davis, Crabtree and Morgan.

 

his hands need work? is that sarcasm or some inside joke i don't understand?

[CubbieBum]

LSU WR/HB Trindon Holliday ran a 4.22 40 today. I believe that's faster than Chris Johnson's last year.

 

Holliday is only like 5'5, though.

 

Correction:

 

Holliday's time was unofficial. His official 40 time was a 4.34. CJ's record is still intact.

 

Golden Tate ran a 4.36. That ought to help his stock.

 

I hope he doesn't jump into the first. I believe I said in the college football forum that I think he is destined to be a very good pro WR. He just seems to know how to get open. His hands need work but he wasn't a WR until recently so they should improve. I think he is a matchup nightmare though due to speed, agility and power. I would very pleased and hope the 49ers take him in the 2nd but I highly doubt we draft any receivers any higher than round three due to having Davis, Crabtree and Morgan.

 

his hands need work? is that sarcasm or some inside joke i don't understand?

 

Maybe I am just remembering a couple big drops but he seemed to have quite a few drops. He's doesn't have horrible hands but from what I remember when he would get flustered he would start dropping passes left and right.

[Andy]

his hands need work? is that sarcasm or some inside joke i don't understand?

 

Maybe I am just remembering a couple big drops but he seemed to have quite a few drops. He's doesn't have horrible hands but from what I remember when he would get flustered he would start dropping passes left and right.

You are remembering the third quarter of the Michigan game, the only time in 3 years I've ever seen him make a big drop (and he was being blatantly arm-barred by Cissoko with no flag most of that game anyway).

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I hope he doesn't jump into the first. I believe I said in the college football forum that I think he is destined to be a very good pro WR. He just seems to know how to get open. His hands need work but he wasn't a WR until recently so they should improve. I think he is a matchup nightmare though due to speed, agility and power. I would very pleased and hope the 49ers take him in the 2nd but I highly doubt we draft any receivers any higher than round three due to having Davis, Crabtree and Morgan.

 

his hands need work? is that sarcasm or some inside joke i don't understand?

 

Maybe I am just remembering a couple big drops but he seemed to have quite a few drops. He's doesn't have horrible hands but from what I remember when he would get flustered he would start dropping passes left and right.

 

I think you're making things up. Did you watch him play a lot? Tate had incredible hands. He pulled in passes that were incredible. One in particular he caught in the USC game this year where he held the ball out away from his body so the defenders couldn't knock it out. His hands are a huge asset. I hope the analysis on your football blog is better than this, but that's frankly ridiculous.

[SpongeWorthy]

Yeah, Tate has a great ability to catch the ball in traffic with his arms full extended and not bobble it. He's like Steve Smith in a lot of ways. Small but stout, fast as hell, and can muscle the ball in a crowd.

[dew1679666265]

Dexter McCluster outbenching Ryan Matthews is one of the things I wasn't expecting to see.

 

Speaking of the bench press, how about Mitch Petrus?

 

If not for his size, I'd be really interested in McCluster. I think he can be a Sproles-esque RB, but with a few more inches he could very well be a feature back - and a rather dynamic one.

[dew1679666265]

Spiller ran a 4.28

 

Nice. Could he be CJ-esque in that he jumps up the charts to be taken in the mid-late first round? I could see him being one of the first RBs off the board.

[dew1679666265]

Tebow with a 4.7 40 and one of the best verticals in the combine. Still don't know if he can throw, but he's about as athletic as I thought.

[dew1679666265]

Also, Montario Hardesty with the best vertical jump of any RB at the combine, the best broad jump of any RB at the combine and a 4.49 40.

 

He could easily be a second round pick at this point, which is rather amazing. He and Dan Williams may be two of the biggest risers up the draft board this year.

[CubbieBum]

I hope he doesn't jump into the first. I believe I said in the college football forum that I think he is destined to be a very good pro WR. He just seems to know how to get open. His hands need work but he wasn't a WR until recently so they should improve. I think he is a matchup nightmare though due to speed, agility and power. I would very pleased and hope the 49ers take him in the 2nd but I highly doubt we draft any receivers any higher than round three due to having Davis, Crabtree and Morgan.

 

his hands need work? is that sarcasm or some inside joke i don't understand?

 

Maybe I am just remembering a couple big drops but he seemed to have quite a few drops. He's doesn't have horrible hands but from what I remember when he would get flustered he would start dropping passes left and right.

 

I think you're making things up. Did you watch him play a lot? Tate had incredible hands. He pulled in passes that were incredible. One in particular he caught in the USC game this year where he held the ball out away from his body so the defenders couldn't knock it out. His hands are a huge asset. I hope the analysis on your football blog is better than this, but that's frankly ridiculous.

 

I watched just about every ND game he played in. He has a great ability to make the spectacular catch I just remember him dropping some easy catches as well. Like I said maybe I remembering some big drops and thinking that he had more drops than he really did.

 

As far as the blog I don't do it anymore and haven't had almost anytime to research the draft this year so all my knowledge is from what I saw when I watched the games during the season.

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McCluster ran 4.58? Wow.

 

Tate's official score was 4.42. Still quite good.

[imb]

i want dallas to draft tate, despite my hatred of nd

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i want dallas to draft tate, despite my hatred of nd

 

I don't. I am hoping for Bruce Campbell, curious about how Myron Rolle too (not for 1st round).

[SpongeWorthy]

Bruce Campbell will certainly be the internet's favorite prospect especially now that people know he's a workout warrior.

[CubbieBum]

Bruce Campbell will certainly be the internet's favorite prospect especially now that people know he's a workout warrior.

 

Too bad his technique is average at best. Sure he is a freak athlete but blocking is mostly technique. If he was just getting to college I would make him a TE.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

i want dallas to draft tate, despite my hatred of nd

 

I think I'd prefer Campbell or Iupati to Tate. I might would even take Cody over Tate.

[dew1679666265]

Bruce Campbell will certainly be the internet's favorite prospect especially now that people know he's a workout warrior.

 

Too bad his technique is average at best. Sure he is a freak athlete but blocking is mostly technique. If he was just getting to college I would make him a TE.

 

Didn't Campbell play another position for his first couple of years? Or am I thinking of another prospect?

[Andy]

The talk now seems to be that the Rams are going to pick Bradford.

 

Why? Well that's a question I don't ask. It's entirely possible that this is all more BSing pre-draft.

[dew1679666265]

The talk now seems to be that the Rams are going to pick Bradford.

 

Why? Well that's a question I don't ask. It's entirely possible that this is all more BSing pre-draft.

 

That's been the prevalent rumor for nearly 2 weeks now, I'd say. No idea of its accuracy, but if they're going QB it ought to be Clausen, I'd think.

[Andy]

The talk now seems to be that the Rams are going to pick Bradford.

 

Why? Well that's a question I don't ask. It's entirely possible that this is all more BSing pre-draft.

 

That's been the prevalent rumor for nearly 2 weeks now, I'd say. No idea of its accuracy, but if they're going QB it ought to be Clausen, I'd think.

I don't think you should ever take a QB that high unless you think he's a stone-cold lock to succeed big-time in the pros because of the money. It befuddles me that the Rams could come to that determination about a guy who had shoulder surgery last year, didn't have that strong an arm to begin with and came from a system that would be ridiculed via pro potential if the players wore Texas Tech uniforms instead of Oklahoma.

 

I think Bradford could be fine in the pros but I don't like him even close to that much.

[dew1679666265]

The talk now seems to be that the Rams are going to pick Bradford.

 

Why? Well that's a question I don't ask. It's entirely possible that this is all more BSing pre-draft.

 

That's been the prevalent rumor for nearly 2 weeks now, I'd say. No idea of its accuracy, but if they're going QB it ought to be Clausen, I'd think.

I don't think you should ever take a QB that high unless you think he's a stone-cold lock to succeed big-time in the pros because of the money. It befuddles me that the Rams could come to that determination about a guy who had shoulder surgery last year, didn't have that strong an arm to begin with and came from a system that would be ridiculed via pro potential if the players wore Texas Tech uniforms instead of Oklahoma.

 

I think Bradford could be fine in the pros but I don't like him even close to that much.

 

Yeah, money is exorbitant whoever you take in the top 3, but QBs especially. I'd definitely take Suh or Berry over either QB. I like Pike more than many and I think he can be comparable to Bradford.

[radarluv1]

what would it take for the chiefs to trade pics with the rams? a 3rd round pick? later?

[dew1679666265]

what would it take for the chiefs to trade pics with the rams? a 3rd round pick? later?

 

I can't believe this (I may be doing something wrong), but here's what the draft pick value chart that NFL GMs oftentimes use says:

 

Pick #1: 3,000

 

Pick #5: 1,700

 

Thus, the Chiefs would have to make up 1,300 points. They could throw in a player or two that the Rams value, but purely on picks they'd be looking at trading this year's 2nd (530), next year's first (same value as this year's 2nd) and this year's 3rd (245).

 

Again, I could be figuring this wrong or they could divert from the chart somewhat, but that's also why the first 1-3 picks very rarely get dealt.

 

Here's the chart.

[CubbieBum]

what would it take for the chiefs to trade pics with the rams? a 3rd round pick? later?

 

I can't believe this (I may be doing something wrong), but here's what the draft pick value chart that NFL GMs oftentimes use says:

 

Pick #1: 3,000

 

Pick #5: 1,700

 

Thus, the Chiefs would have to make up 1,300 points. They could throw in a player or two that the Rams value, but purely on picks they'd be looking at trading this year's 2nd (530), next year's first (same value as this year's 2nd) and this year's 3rd (245).

 

Again, I could be figuring this wrong or they could divert from the chart somewhat, but that's also why the first 1-3 picks very rarely get dealt.

 

Here's the chart.

 

The chart has always been incredibly stupid. GM's either swear by it, which is equivalent to a GM swearing by a pitchers wins, or they swear against it. More and more teams are going away from it due to the monetary value of the top picks. It's pretty widely said now that if the team with the No. 1 pick could find a taker they would trade down every year. No one wants the pick that you got to guarantee $40-50 million to. They would rather trade down to picks 5-10 where you only have to guarantee $20 or so million but get a prospect with a tiny bit less potential.

Edited March 2, 2010 by CubbieBum

[Guest]

Why would the Chiefs trade up? If anything they'll try to trade down if one or both of the QBs fall to #5.