Milton Bradley

[Bull]

I thought the OP was referring to Mel Allen!

 

I didn't get the comparison.

[hardcorecubfan]

If Bradely was a horse he would have been shot by now

[Little Slide Rooter]

If Bradely was a horse he would have been shot by now

 

If that cliche was a horse it would have been shot by now.

[Warren Brusstar]

Defense matters.

 

I agree. Is that just a statement generally or are you making an argument of some sort regarding Santo and Allen?

 

Yeah, Allen was a below average defensive 1B/OF, while Santo was an elite defensive 3B.

 

Right. I get that. I agree. You posted that in response to my suggestion that Allen was a better player. Are you disputing that?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Yeah. I'm not a fan of WARP, but I can't think of much else to use. Santo comes out a couple wins ahead.

[NCCubFan]

For you trivia buffs..... The White Sox made Dick Allen (aka Richie Allen) the highest paid player in all of baseball back in 1972, paying him the ungodly salary of $200,000.00 !!!!

As much as I hate to say it because it shows my age, but I remember Allen's days with the Sox. I remember it was when he was traded to the Sox that he insisted on being called Dick (how appropriate); before then he was Richie. I also remember Chuch Tanner bending over backwards to pacify him.

 

When he wore out his welcome with the Sox he was traded for the same player (Jim Essian) twice within a year. The Sox traded him to the Braves for a PTBNL. He refused to report to the Braves and was traded to the Phillies for Essian. The Braves then sent Essian to the Sox as the PTBNL for Allen.

[Little Slide Rooter]

An .830 OPS is an offensive force?

 

In order to obtain an .830 ops this year, what ops would he have to put up the rest of the way?

 

Depends on how many at-bats he gets this year. If he has 400, my calculations would have him needing an .857 OPS the rest of the year to get to .830 overall. But I'm not very confident about that answer although it should be in the ballpark of what is needed.

 

So essentially, we resigned Jacque Jones. Yay.

[SouthSideRyan]

Bill James also considers Allen the exception to the rule regarding clubhouse chemistry, that Allen's miserable [expletive]-titude actually made his teammates worse.

[dew1679666265]

An .830 OPS is an offensive force?

 

In order to obtain an .830 ops this year, what ops would he have to put up the rest of the way?

 

Depends on how many at-bats he gets this year. If he has 400, my calculations would have him needing an .857 OPS the rest of the year to get to .830 overall. But I'm not very confident about that answer although it should be in the ballpark of what is needed.

 

So essentially, we resigned Jacque Jones. Yay.

 

Jacque's career OPS is .775, Bradley's is .824. Bradley's had four offensive seasons far better than Jones' best.

[Guest]

An .830 OPS is an offensive force?

 

In order to obtain an .830 ops this year, what ops would he have to put up the rest of the way?

 

Depends on how many at-bats he gets this year. If he has 400, my calculations would have him needing an .857 OPS the rest of the year to get to .830 overall. But I'm not very confident about that answer although it should be in the ballpark of what is needed.

 

So essentially, we resigned Jacque Jones. Yay.

 

Jacque's career OPS is .775, Bradley's is .824. Bradley's had four offensive seasons far better than Jones' best.

 

Even better - Jacque's career OBP was .326 with a single season high of .341 in 10 seasons. Bradley's first three years were .288, .288 and .317 followed by six years of at least .350 with three of those years being over .400.

 

Milton also has 84 more walks in his career than Jacque does in 1627 fewer PA's. They're hardly the same player.

[TruffleShuffle]

wait so you're saying that OPS isn't the be-all, end-all of baseball player evaluation? maybe certain nsbb posters should become more familiar with this concept.

[SouthSideRyan]

wait so you're saying that OPS isn't the be-all, end-all of baseball player evaluation? maybe certain nsbb posters should become more familiar with this concept.

 

They should use (bullpen ERA*2.5)

 

It's shorthand.

[CliftonHanger]

wait so you're saying that OPS isn't the be-all, end-all of baseball player evaluation? maybe certain nsbb posters should become more familiar with this concept.

 

 

Will somebody tell ESPN this?

[TruffleShuffle]

wait so you're saying that OPS isn't the be-all, end-all of baseball player evaluation? maybe certain nsbb posters should become more familiar with this concept.

 

They should use (bullpen ERA*2.5)

 

It's shorthand.

 

oh and here i thought we weren't supposed to do that.

[mcgoobs]

wait so you're saying that OPS isn't the be-all, end-all of baseball player evaluation? maybe certain nsbb posters should become more familiar with this concept.

 

It's pronounced "aahps."

[Mephistopheles]

awps is better than what espin usually uses, so ill be content with it. i dont expect espin to use dra.

[SaorsaDaonnan]

Did Bradley ever claim that the media's treatment of him is the cause of his struggles?

 

There is a huge difference between his arguing that the media is treating him unfairly and his arguing that

their treatment of him is the reason he's been struggling. The difference is that the first version involves

taking personal responsibility for his on-field performance, while the second version does not. It is impossible

to overstate the importance of that distinction.

 

He can say that media treatment of him has been analytically unsound, or motivated by the selfish desire to

make a buck at any expense to the truth, or motivated by personal vendettas against him, without in any

way passing the buck when it comes to his struggles at the plate.

 

Of course the logical fact that he can do so is separate from the question of whether he has. I've been too

busy wrapping up the semester to read the sports pages as closely as I'm sure many of you have, so I don't know

the answer to this question. Do any of you? Is there a quote out there that clearly establishes who he's blaming

for his struggles?

[Mephistopheles]

im blaming his struggles on corona discharge

[TBone]

I dumped him from my fantasy team today, so I expect him to now start lighting it up.

[CyHawk_Cub]

I dumped him from my fantasy team today, so I expect him to now start lighting it up.

 

We thank you in advance. If Milton wants to earn black guys anytime soon, he'd better start heating up.

[chasinf5s]

So instead of taking the suspension while he was hurt and not missing any games, he chooses to appeal and gets the hearing today and possibly misses up to two games, this guy is a real winner

[jersey cubs fan]

So instead of taking the suspension while he was hurt and not missing any games, he chooses to appeal and gets the hearing today and possibly misses up to two games, this guy is a real winner

 

I'm sorry, but fans who whine about a guy appealling a suspension are just completely irrational.

[David]

Yes, what a jerk for him wanting to stand up for himself on principle.

 

Sure, I would've preferred he take the suspension while he was hurt, too, but give me a break.

[Guest]

I felt that way originally, myself. But, that was prior to someone (I think Goony) reminding me that a suspension also means you don't get paid for the games you miss because of suspension.

 

I'd have preferred that he just get it out of the way, but I can understand the appeal. I didn't see contact and it really did seem to be a fairly harmless stand off.

[chasinf5s]

Yes, what a jerk for him wanting to stand up for himself on principle.

 

Sure, I would've preferred he take the suspension while he was hurt, too, but give me a break.

 

as Sandberg said, "the name on the front is a lot more important than the name on the back" Screw principle, if you can help the team by taking a suspension when it wouldnt matter instead of possibly taking one when it would, you do it.