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I can understand with guys like Hawkins or Sosa or Howry(I guarantee he gets the Hawkins tratment when the Giants come to town) who left a bad taste in fans mouths for one reason or another, but with random role players, its pointless.

 

I like to think that Woody and DeRo wont get booed when they come to town in June, but theres always going to be some drunken imbecile.

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I can understand with guys like Hawkins or Sosa or Howry(I guarantee he gets the Hawkins tratment when the Giants come to town) who left a bad taste in fans mouths for one reason or another, but with random role players, its pointless.

 

I like to think that Woody and DeRo wont get booed when they come to town in June, but theres always going to be some drunken imbecile.

 

I'm convinced Woody will get a standing ovation the first time he takes the mound in the Cleveland series. People know he wanted to stay here, and Hendry kicked him out.

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We all know KW will get a standing ovation in June. And if the Cubs are down and he's in the game, a good percentage of the Cubs fans in Wrigley will be hoping the Cubs don't win.

 

KW=Kenny Williams in every other context ever. This stumped me for a good ten seconds.

 

It's tacky to boo. The loudest booers are the people who don't know [expletive] about the game but want to appear on the ball. The Phillies fans are the absolute worst for this, but I didn't notice too much of a difference between us and them last night.

 

I'm blaming the weather, because the only fans in baseball who boo at the FIRST attempted pick-off throw by the opposition are the Phillies, and we were doing it last night. I'm assuming and hoping that people were just really uncomfortable and anxious to get last night's game over with.

 

I also agree that our fans were booing the situations in the game last night and directing them at the opposition. It's just hard to tell, I imagine, when you're out on the field. I really just hope our fans don't start embarassing me this year by becoming especially bitter and aloof.

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I can understand with guys like Hawkins or Sosa or Howry(I guarantee he gets the Hawkins tratment when the Giants come to town) who left a bad taste in fans mouths for one reason or another, but with random role players, its pointless.

 

I like to think that Woody and DeRo wont get booed when they come to town in June, but theres always going to be some drunken imbecile.

 

I'm convinced Woody will get a standing ovation the first time he takes the mound in the Cleveland series. People know he wanted to stay here, and Hendry kicked him out.

 

That's a totally bogus argument. If he wanted to stay here so badly, he would've taken a big pay cut to do so. As it is, neither is really to blame, but I think if you were to blame one, it would be Kerry. That said, he should get cheered and he will get cheered.

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I don't think it's fair to boo Alex Gonzalez, for example, for biffing a critical double-play grounder. That's a physical error and they happen to everyone.

 

I think it is absolutely fair to boo Mike Fontento, for example, for brainlessly getting thrown out at third base while trying to advance on a wild pitch in the bottom of the 9th when his run meant absolutely nothing. That's a mental error, and there's just no excuse for a major leaguer to make that sort of mistake. None.

You don't think it's fair to boo someone who choked in a critical moment and then let some diehard Cubs fan essentially take the blame for his actions? I can't think of someone I would boo more than Alex Gonzalez, and that includes Dusty Baker.

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I wouldn't mind getting back to the conversation on whether or not the fan base has changed since 2003 and if it is for the better or for the worse.

 

I think it definitely has and there are some pros and cons.

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The Harden one is unfair, I agree. But he's not lived up to the "star" expectations he came in with so far.

What? Come on now.

 

When I saw that Banedon posted this, I was pretty much speechless. :shock:

 

Harden has been great for us, for the most part. I seriosly believe that when is is shaky and has trouble with control its because whether hes healthy or not, he knows that shoulder can start giving him trouble at any time, and hes trying to be extra cautious.

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how about we dont boo freakin RICH HARDEN for giving up one homerun last night. then maybe we can move on to not booing former cubs

 

They even booed Harden when Bruce got the single to drive in the second run.

 

Are you certain they were not shouting "Bruce!"? This sort of confusion pops up at Springsteen shows all the time. And yeah, Glendon Rusch sucked terribly. I don't particularly care that he was "understood" to suck. When you are as awful a pitcher as Rusch is/was, part of your job is absorbing boos.

I think most people were booing the guy in the Bartman seat who interfered.

 

This is correct. Almost as stupid, I agree, but in no way were the fans booing Harden for giving up an RBI single.

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how about we dont boo freakin RICH HARDEN for giving up one homerun last night. then maybe we can move on to not booing former cubs

 

They even booed Harden when Bruce got the single to drive in the second run.

 

no they didn't. if you heard something it was probably reds fans saying "bruuuuuucccccceeee". or if they were booing, they were booing bruce. not harden.

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how about we dont boo freakin RICH HARDEN for giving up one homerun last night. then maybe we can move on to not booing former cubs

 

They even booed Harden when Bruce got the single to drive in the second run.

 

Are you certain they were not shouting "Bruce!"? This sort of confusion pops up at Springsteen shows all the time. And yeah, Glendon Rusch sucked terribly. I don't particularly care that he was "understood" to suck. When you are as awful a pitcher as Rusch is/was, part of your job is absorbing boos.

I think most people were booing the guy in the Bartman seat who interfered.

 

This is correct. Almost as stupid, I agree, but in no way were the fans booing Harden for giving up an RBI single.

 

My mistake. I didn't realize that last night. I was halfway paying attention while studying for a test I had today.

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I was at the game last night and I thought the same thing... what the hell is the point in booing Hairston? Sure he wasn't great as a Cub, but did anyone really expect him to be? The Cubs fanbase as a whole is getting way too boo-happy. I'm all for booing Dusty, but that kind of loses its effect when the fans turn around and boo a reserve player like Hairston.
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I can understand with guys like Hawkins or Sosa or Howry(I guarantee he gets the Hawkins tratment when the Giants come to town) who left a bad taste in fans mouths for one reason or another, but with random role players, its pointless.

 

I like to think that Woody and DeRo wont get booed when they come to town in June, but theres always going to be some drunken imbecile.

 

Yeah I don't think I would put Sosa in the same category as Hawkins and Howry.

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i agree that the fanbase is turning for the worse. they are becoming caricatures of themselves. i am a lifer and a large part of the fanbase annoys and embarrasses me with their lack of knowledge and respect. plus we need to quit playing that dumb song after wins at home.
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i agree that the fanbase is turning for the worse. they are becoming caricatures of themselves. i am a lifer and a large part of the fanbase annoys and embarrasses me with their lack of knowledge and respect. plus we need to quit playing that dumb song after wins at home.

 

Go Cubs Go is awesome after a defeat of the Cards or a late win, but it just seems stupid after games like last nights 7-2 win. I almost think there should be a "coolness" factor that plays into whether or not the song is played. Although I wouldn't mind going to organ music and organ music only. I can listen to music anywhere else.

 

Also, I noticed last night that they did the "Charge!" thing. Not a big fan of that. And whoever started that one wave a few years ago should be shot.

 

Mini-rant over, for now.

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I obviously think the Go Cubs Go thing is lame, but when did that come about? I hadn't heard it until like 2 years ago. Not trolling or anything, but is it just a song that you play when you think you have a good team or something? I just don't get it.
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I obviously think the Go Cubs Go thing is lame, but when did that come about? I hadn't heard it until like 2 years ago. Not trolling or anything, but is it just a song that you play when you think you have a good team or something? I just don't get it.

 

It's a song that has been around for years. Wikipedia is your friend.

 

The song has had a resurgence in tandem with the success of the 2007 and 2008 Chicago Cubs, who won consecutive National League Central Division regular season championships, and the May 2007 release of the biography of Steve Goodman, Steve Goodman: Facing the Music (ISBN 1-55022-732-7). WGN-TV broadcasts of the game have begun delaying postgame commentary to enables viewers to hear Goodman's song and to watch fans at Wrigley listening and singing along. Cubs management decided to incorporate the song into the stadium experience following the team's annual winter conference (not to be confused with baseball's winter meetings) in which attendees dropped everything they were doing to sing along.
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If someone is booing Latroy Hawkins, that means they paid enough attention over the past few years to actually know that Latroy played for (and sucked) with the Cubs.

 

if you think latroy sucked with the cubs, you were the one that wasn't paying attention.

 

he had 29 saves and 13 blown saves in a cub uniform... that is horrendous. his inability to close games was a disaster, and i blame dusty for continuing to use him in a role that he wasn't comfortable with, but that doesn't mean that i won't boo latroy too.

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I obviously think the Go Cubs Go thing is lame, but when did that come about? I hadn't heard it until like 2 years ago. Not trolling or anything, but is it just a song that you play when you think you have a good team or something? I just don't get it.

 

It's a song that has been around for years. Wikipedia is your friend.

 

The song has had a resurgence in tandem with the success of the 2007 and 2008 Chicago Cubs, who won consecutive National League Central Division regular season championships, and the May 2007 release of the biography of Steve Goodman, Steve Goodman: Facing the Music (ISBN 1-55022-732-7). WGN-TV broadcasts of the game have begun delaying postgame commentary to enables viewers to hear Goodman's song and to watch fans at Wrigley listening and singing along. Cubs management decided to incorporate the song into the stadium experience following the team's annual winter conference (not to be confused with baseball's winter meetings) in which attendees dropped everything they were doing to sing along.

I could tell the song was 20 years old, I was just wondering if it was always played and/or if it is just big now because of the winning. I never heard it on WGN growing up and was just curious.

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I obviously think the Go Cubs Go thing is lame, but when did that come about? I hadn't heard it until like 2 years ago. Not trolling or anything, but is it just a song that you play when you think you have a good team or something? I just don't get it.

 

It's a song that has been around for years. Wikipedia is your friend.

 

The song has had a resurgence in tandem with the success of the 2007 and 2008 Chicago Cubs, who won consecutive National League Central Division regular season championships, and the May 2007 release of the biography of Steve Goodman, Steve Goodman: Facing the Music (ISBN 1-55022-732-7). WGN-TV broadcasts of the game have begun delaying postgame commentary to enables viewers to hear Goodman's song and to watch fans at Wrigley listening and singing along. Cubs management decided to incorporate the song into the stadium experience following the team's annual winter conference (not to be confused with baseball's winter meetings) in which attendees dropped everything they were doing to sing along.

I could tell the song was 20 years old, I was just wondering if it was always played and/or if it is just big now because of the winning. I never heard it on WGN growing up and was just curious.

It was written during the 1984 season and to the best of my knowledge really never popped up again until 2007. In fact, I swear to the moons above we didn't start playing it after home wins until partway through 2007 when it became clear we were a decent team, because I watched that team all year and don't remember it being played in early games.

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As for the topic at hand, I never boo current Cubs. I felt dirty when I was at a vintage bad-Sammy game in 2004 and he was getting absolutely eviscerated by the fans. I'm not sure if I was ever going to be a boo-er before then, but that game turned me off booing forever.

 

I'm okay with (and encourage) booing people like Dusty, and I have a totally irrational hate for LaTroy that no stats will ever change. But beyond guys who were either memorably bad for us or had memorably bad moments, I don't understand why one would boo any player - unless it's something like a guy is throwing at us or just mocked somebody.

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That bothers me too...

 

04 Sammy wasn't all that bad... he posted a slugging-heavy .849 OPS. He wasn't the Sammy of old, but he was hardly the problem with that team.

 

The way the fans turned on him was absurd and uncalled for, especially given his years of service for the team.

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It was written during the 1984 season and to the best of my knowledge really never popped up again until 2007.

 

This is mostly correct, but the team did use it in limited capacities prior to instituting it after home victories in 2007. In particular, I know they used it in the preseason radio pregame intro in 2005; that's the sort of "limited capacities" to which I'm referring, things like intros, promos, commercials and the like.

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I'm pretty sure I've never booed a player on one of my teams. I get upset and a guy who consistently blows will make me angry but I will never boo. Booing for me reserved for opponents and even then I prefer to try and come up with a funny insult rather than boo.
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Booing members of other teams might be justified sometimes, but booing members of your own team who are giving 100% is childish, and just shows how watered down the Cubs fanbase is now.

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