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Clem Fandango All-Star

Clem Fandango

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going off UZR, above-average LFs last year were:

 

Alex Gordon

Christian Yelich

Yoenis Cespedes

Dustin Ackley

Alejandro de Aza

Khris Davis

Brett Gardner

Starling Marte

 

i don't trust Schwarber to have that type of athleticism

 

If Schwarber performed at those levels while hitting .280 with 25-30 homers and good OBP he's an MVP candidate... but he's only the 90th best prospect in baseball? I don't think Keith Law did any actual research on Schwarber. Either that or he thinks it's 2001

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Turns out Fro was right:

 

Schwarber was the fourth overall pick in the 2014 draft as a power-hitting catcher from Indiana University, then went and destroyed three different leagues after signing, ending the year in high-A just a few months out of college. Schwarber has very little chance to catch in the majors, as he's a poor receiver and is very muscular for the position, but his bat should make him a regular at another position, possibly first base, but most likely left field.

 

He has a chance to end up with a plus hit tool and plus power, showing much better plate discipline this summer than he did as an amateur, although his front side can get soft and he can be vulnerable to soft stuff away because his typical swing is so hard. If he hits .280 or so with a strong OBP and 25-30 homers, he'll be a good everyday player; Worst-case scenario is he's an above-average defender in LF who can really hit.

 

Did he change it? I'm seeing:

 

Schwarber was the fourth overall pick in the 2014 draft as a power-hitting catcher from Indiana University, then went and destroyed three different leagues after signing, ending the year in high-A just a few months out of college. Schwarber has very little chance to catch in the majors, as he's a poor receiver and is very muscular for the position, but his bat should make him a regular at another position, possibly first base, but most likely left field.

 

He has a chance to end up with a plus hit tool and plus power, showing much better plate discipline this summer than he did as an amateur, although his front side can get soft and he can be vulnerable to soft stuff away because his typical swing is so hard. If he hits .280 or so with a strong OBP and 25-30 homers, he'll be a good everyday player even if he ends up as a bad left fielder, and the Cubs certainly believe he has a chance to exceed even those marks.

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Turns out Fro was right:

 

Schwarber was the fourth overall pick in the 2014 draft as a power-hitting catcher from Indiana University, then went and destroyed three different leagues after signing, ending the year in high-A just a few months out of college. Schwarber has very little chance to catch in the majors, as he's a poor receiver and is very muscular for the position, but his bat should make him a regular at another position, possibly first base, but most likely left field.

 

He has a chance to end up with a plus hit tool and plus power, showing much better plate discipline this summer than he did as an amateur, although his front side can get soft and he can be vulnerable to soft stuff away because his typical swing is so hard. If he hits .280 or so with a strong OBP and 25-30 homers, he'll be a good everyday player; Worst-case scenario is he's an above-average defender in LF who can really hit.

 

Did he change it? I'm seeing:

 

Schwarber was the fourth overall pick in the 2014 draft as a power-hitting catcher from Indiana University, then went and destroyed three different leagues after signing, ending the year in high-A just a few months out of college. Schwarber has very little chance to catch in the majors, as he's a poor receiver and is very muscular for the position, but his bat should make him a regular at another position, possibly first base, but most likely left field.

 

He has a chance to end up with a plus hit tool and plus power, showing much better plate discipline this summer than he did as an amateur, although his front side can get soft and he can be vulnerable to soft stuff away because his typical swing is so hard. If he hits .280 or so with a strong OBP and 25-30 homers, he'll be a good everyday player even if he ends up as a bad left fielder, and the Cubs certainly believe he has a chance to exceed even those marks.

 

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. You got me, Jersey. Hook line and sinker. Well done.

 

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SABR Gamer First Round Pick

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did people really take that at face value?

 

 

 

 

****I mean besides Logan

*****and new york cub fan

 

Lol hate you. jk

 

<-- idiot. Law clearly wouldn't have said that.

 

ETA: I've been dying of the plague for a week now, so I'm using that as my bs excuse for being dumb.

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Yeah, I imagine the cutoff was greater than the 200ish PA Soler had in the minors.
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• Among all minor leaguers who recorded at least 100 plate appearances, Detroit shortstop prospect Manuel Joseph produced the highest WAR600 figure, recording a 4.2 WAR in 252 plate appearances at the Rookie-level Dominican Summer League — equivalent to a 10.1 WAR in 600 plate appearances. Talented Cubs prospect Kyle Schwarber finished second by this measure, at 9.5 WAR600.

Soler was 10th

Name	          WAR600
Manuel Joseph	  10.1
Kyle Schwarber	  9.5
Davinson Pimentel  9.2
Kris Bryant	     9.0
Sandy Madera 	   8.6
Carlos Vidal	    8.5
J.T. Wise	       8.4
Bryan Cuevas    	8.4
Jorge Soler	     8.3

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With Almora taking another walk tonight, as good a time as any to post a little fluff

 

Albert Almora had the “pure hitter” tag attached when the Cubs took him sixth overall in the 2012 draft out of a Hialeah, Florida high school. Depending on your definition, the right-handed-hitting outfielder has lived up to the billing.

 

Almora, who celebrated his 21st birthday a few days ago, has good eye-hand coordination and a smooth swing. What he doesn’t have is a refined approach. With the exception of a 36-game speed bump in the Southern League last year, he’s produced a solid batting average in the minors. The rawness is evident in his pedestrian power numbers and his borderline abysmal OBP.

 

What used to come easy is no longer easy.

 

“In high school, I just saw a pitch and swung at it, because I knew I could hit anything,” Almora told me last month in Mesa. “I kind of took that into pro ball, and it started catching up to me. Here, you have to bear down and eliminate pitcher’s pitches.”

 

Recognizing a problem is one thing, fixing it is another. In Almora’s case, mechanical fixes aren’t needed. It’s all about brainwaves and heartbeats.

 

“My swing is there, but I haven’t been slowing the game down,” admitted Almora. “As a competitor, when you’re doing badly, you want to start doing well again. What happens is, you try this, you try that, and everything speeds up. You might not even realize it’s happening, but it is.”

 

The youngster – currently with Double-A Tennessee – plans to continue his quest for discipline and tranquility in a zen-like manner.

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“Step back and breathe,” said Almora. “I need to breathe and take it pitch by pitch.”

 

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Manny Machado expects his fellow Floridian to eventually flourish. The Orioles third baseman told me Almora “is going to be a great player once he figures it out.” In his view, injuries have hindered the young Cub, who is doing just fine. As for Almora admitting he’s allowed things to speed up, that’s just part of the process.

 

“That shows he’s learning the game a little better,” said Machado. “Slowing the game down is one of the many steps you need to take in order to be successful in the big leagues. It’s a process that takes time, and he’s getting it.”

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/sunday-notes-bryce-on-stats-storen-gausman-eflin-almora-more/

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From a recent Underwood start: http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/underwood-overwhelms-winston-salem/

 

His fastball sat between 93-95 mph all outing with a couple of peeks at 96. He coupled the pitch with high-70s curveball that he threw for strikes and occasionally buried for strikeouts. What was conspicuously missing was his changeup, which flashed plus at times last year. He threw the pitch just once on Saturday, an 83 mph version left up in the strike zone.

 

“He wasn’t near as effective (as he could have been), which sounds funny considering he had a no-hitter going into the seventh,” Myrtle Beach manager Mark Johnson said. “He didn’t even use his changeup today (except for) maybe one time, and really that’s his second-best pitch, even to righties his changeup is really effective. He mixed his fastball up a little bit, had some good tail on his fastball, and he actually threw some really good breaking balls to lefties.”

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Schwarber in the BA Hot Sheet: http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/prospect-hot-sheet-may-1-correa-crushes-double-competition/

 

2. Kyle Schwarber, c, Cubs

Team: Double-A Tennessee (Southern)

Age: 22

Why He’s Here: .381/.400/.857 (8-for-21), 4 R, 4 2B, 2 HR, 8 RBIs, 2 BB, 5 SO

 

The Scoop: It would be great if Schwarber can stick behind the plate, but if that doesn’t work out, his bat should play anywhere. The fourth overall pick in last year’s draft, Schwarber has a short, compact stroke, projecting as a plus hitter with the plate discipline to get on base at a high clip, along with plus power. We would call him a future middle-of-the-order hitter, but with Anthony Rizzo, Kris Bryant, Jorge Soler and Addison Russell, there are only so many spots to go around.

 

Also, it's worth clicking the link just to see Julio Urias's headshot.

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God damn that was such a good [expletive] pick
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Last week, Vogelbach was on the Hot Sheet and Kris Bryant was on it in week one.
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Also, Tranny Tiger must have been distracted by Julio Urias' eye condition and not scrolled further down.

 

7. Gleyber Torres, SS, Cubs

Team: low Class A South Bend (Midwest)

Age: 18

Why He’s Here: .550/.640/.750 (11-for-20), 5 R, 2 2B, 1 3B, 4 RBIs, 5 BB, 3 SO, 3-for-3 SB

 

The Scoop: During the draft next month, teams will pluck the top high school seniors from the U.S. Those players are the same age as Torres, who signed for $1.7 million out of Venezuela in 2013 and is already batting .352/.446/.423 in 20 games in the Midwest League. His ability to hit and control the strike zone are mature beyond his years.

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2. Kyle Schwarber, c, Cubs

Team: Double-A Tennessee (Southern)

Age: 22

Why He’s Here: .381/.400/.857 (8-for-21), 4 R, 4 2B, 2 HR, 8 RBIs, 2 BB, 5 SO

 

The Scoop: It would be great if Schwarber can stick behind the plate, but if that doesn’t work out, his bat should play anywhere. The fourth overall pick in last year’s draft, Schwarber has a short, compact stroke, projecting as a plus hitter with the plate discipline to get on base at a high clip, along with plus power. We would call him a future middle-of-the-order hitter, but with Anthony Rizzo, Kris Bryant, Jorge Soler and Addison Russell, there are only so many spots to go around.

 

Forgetting the 25 year old, 3 time all star approaching 1,000 hits. :yahoo:

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2. Kyle Schwarber, c, Cubs

Team: Double-A Tennessee (Southern)

Age: 22

Why He’s Here: .381/.400/.857 (8-for-21), 4 R, 4 2B, 2 HR, 8 RBIs, 2 BB, 5 SO

 

The Scoop: It would be great if Schwarber can stick behind the plate, but if that doesn’t work out, his bat should play anywhere. The fourth overall pick in last year’s draft, Schwarber has a short, compact stroke, projecting as a plus hitter with the plate discipline to get on base at a high clip, along with plus power. We would call him a future middle-of-the-order hitter, but with Anthony Rizzo, Kris Bryant, Jorge Soler and Addison Russell, there are only so many spots to go around.

 

Forgetting the 25 year old, 3 time all star approaching 1,000 hits. :yahoo:

I'm going to be really happy when Castro isn't considered a middle of the order hitter anymore.

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