Last year for Uncle Lou?

[Larry Horse]

http://chi-ball.com/blog/2009/02/lous-finale/

[cubsfan26]

Lou contract doesn't end to 2010, and with this current teams window probably lasting through 2010. I think Lou will finsh his contract, and try to win a World Series in the next two seasons. But if the Cubs win a World Series next year, he might retire on top.

[The Other 15]

2010 is a club option. He might not come back, or be welcome back, if they fail to make the playoffs.

[Mephistopheles]

i think ryne sandberg will get the job, unfortunately.

[Cubswin11]

i think ryne sandberg will get the job, unfortunately.

I think it will be him or Trammel.

[dew1679666265]

Well, we know this much is true.

 

There was also some that felt Lou overstated the lack of left-handed hitting after the sweep by the Dodgers.

[dew1679666265]

i think ryne sandberg will get the job, unfortunately.

I think it will be him or Trammel.

 

I kinda think it would be Trammel.

 

And I would like that.

[Brian]

2010 is a club option. He might not come back, or be welcome back, if they fail to make the playoffs.

 

The Cubs already exercised the option, I believe it was between the clinching of the division and the playoffs starting last year.

[cubsfan26]

Yeah they did, I think Lou will be with the Cubs as long as he wants to be the Cubs.

[Dallas Green]

Yeah they did, I think Lou will be with the Cubs as long as he wants to be the Cubs.

 

Exactly, it just may not be past this year.

[bhogg]

When Lou leaves, I really hope Trammell gets the gig.

 

I'm the biggest Sandberg fan you'll find, but I don't want him managing the club.

 

One, I'm not sure he'd be good at it --- this isn't 1989 and the game has changed a lot.

 

Two, there would come a time that cub fans despise him and call for his job. . . bash him . . .generally treat him like crap. That would be sad to go through.

[Dallas Green]

When Lou leaves, I really hope Trammell gets the gig.

 

I'm the biggest Sandberg fan you'll find, but I don't want him managing the club.

 

One, I'm not sure he'd be good at it --- this isn't 1989 and the game has changed a lot.

 

Two, there would come a time that cub fans despise him and call for his job. . . bash him . . .generally treat him like crap. That would be sad to go through.

 

That would suck , kind of like what happended to Tram in Detroit?

[17 Seconds]

Yeah they did, I think Lou will be with the Cubs as long as he wants to be the Cubs.

 

I'm not so sure. If the Cubs make the playoffs again and totally freeze up and get swept agin, I could see them wanting to shake things up and fire Lou... even if he might not deserve. At that point you can no longer just make some roster moves and hope everything will be okay in Octboer. You'd have to have a major change in the clubhouse. Hopefully it doesn't come to that, because I don't think Lou has anything to do with the choking.

[cubsfan26]

I could see them wanting to shake things up and fire Lou...

 

 

It all depends on how Ricketts feels about Lou I guess. I know the current guys incharge think very highly of Lou. One question I have is has Lou ever been fired?

[17 Seconds]

I could see them wanting to shake things up and fire Lou...

 

 

It all depends on how Ricketts feels about Lou I guess. I know the current guys incharge think very highly of Lou. One question I have is has Lou ever been fired?

 

Most managers haven't been. Nobody ever thought Torre wouldn't be welcome back either and he was basically run out of town (despite the BS one year offer that was only made to save face). Sometimes you just have to make changes.

 

Like I said though, it's not a matter of whether or not they think highly of him. Of course they do, and I doubt they'd blame him if they choked 3 straight years. I'm just saying at that point it would probably be time for a change. When you completely are overwhelmed by the stage andget swept once, you can write it off as a lot of things. When it happens twice, you start making character changes in the clubhouse (Wood, DeRosa, Bradley). If it happens 3 times in a row, you have to get drastic and completely change the attitude in the clubhouse. That would start with changing managers....whether Lou is to blame or not.

 

Now that I think about it though.... if the Cubs make the playoffs and choke again this year, I bet Lou would retire.

[Jehrico]

this isn't 1989 and the game has changed a lot.

I don't get this. The game has changed even more since Lou played. So what? Trammel retired in 96, Ryno in 97.

 

I agree, I don't want to see him as the manager either, but that particular reason doesn't come close to making sense. Almost every manager not named Girardi wouldn't cut the mustard if you applied a similar criteria to them.

 

I'd love to see Ryno as the bench coach or something like that though.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I loved Ryno as a player, and I really don't want to find myself in a situation where I'm shouting obscenities at my favorite player of all time. Having read his thoughts on many things, I really hope he is never given the opportunity to manage the Cubs. I just don't see it ending well. He can be the bench coach for a good manager, the hitting instructor, third base coach, head groundscrewman, or whatever ...but I honestly don't want him managing the Cubs.

 

Right now, I'm not sure who I would like to manage the Cubs when Lou leaves, but I'm about 99.9% certain I don't want it to be Sandberg.

 

[SouthSideRyan]

 

I'd love to see Ryno as the bench coach or something like that though.

 

I think that's what'll happen with Trammel as manager.

 

to be important, more important to be nice>

[Fred Hornkohl]

After Leo Durocher was terminated midway through the '72 season, there was some recurring clamor over the next few years for the CUBS to name Ernie Banks manager. (He had just retired as a player the year before.) When you look at the likes of Herman Franks, Preston Gomez, Joey Amalfitano..... it's not a stretch of the imagination in any way to believe that Ernie might have done a better job. Old man Wrigley, who really made more good decisions than people ever gave him credit for, finally put the issue to rest in one interview when he said , "Every manager that gets hired in the game of baseball, eventually gets fired. Ernie is a legend and has given more to this franchise than any other player. I don't know if I could do that to him."

 

Let Sandberg continue to be a legend also.

[UMFan83]

I hope another team gives him a job before the Cubs. I would love to root for that team unless it was the Cardinals or White Sox.

[Dallas Green]

 

I'd love to see Ryno as the bench coach or something like that though.

 

I think that's what'll happen with Trammel as manager.

 

to be important, more important to be nice>

 

Yeah, I could see that, However, you get that sneaky suspicion JH would want another name manager. I hope not. I'd like to see someone lower-profile like the Red Sox did (at the time) with Francona or the Rays with Maddon. I think Tramm could fit that bill. Has there been any impressions out there of Ryno so far in his mgr career?

[SouthSideRyan]

 

I'd love to see Ryno as the bench coach or something like that though.

 

I think that's what'll happen with Trammel as manager.

 

to be important, more important to be nice>

 

Yeah, I could see that, However, you get that sneaky suspicion JH would want another name manager. I hope not. I'd like to see someone lower-profile like the Red Sox did (at the time) with Francona or the Rays with Maddon. I think Tramm could fit that bill. Has there been any impressions out there of Ryno so far in his mgr career?

 

I don't know if it's rang true in his actual managing, but to hear him talk, he seems really old school, and the type that would small ball you to death.

[Dallas Green]

 

I'd love to see Ryno as the bench coach or something like that though.

 

I think that's what'll happen with Trammel as manager.

 

to be important, more important to be nice>

 

Yeah, I could see that, However, you get that sneaky suspicion JH would want another name manager. I hope not. I'd like to see someone lower-profile like the Red Sox did (at the time) with Francona or the Rays with Maddon. I think Tramm could fit that bill. Has there been any impressions out there of Ryno so far in his mgr career?

 

I don't know if it's rang true in his actual managing, but to hear him talk, he seems really old school, and the type that would small ball you to death.

 

Hmmmm. Sandberg was a pretty patient hitter, I would imagine he would value OBP.

[SouthSideRyan]

He wasn't Dunston, but he wasn't exactly Eddie Yost. Just a 344 OBP, just a .059 difference between that and his AVG.

 

Of course, what a manager did as a player doesn't necessarily affect his teams. Dusty was more patient than Sandberg, and we know how his philosophies went. Lou loves walks and he hated them as a player.

[Balsa]

After Leo Durocher was terminated midway through the '72 season, there was some recurring clamor over the next few years for the CUBS to name Ernie Banks manager. (He had just retired as a player the year before.) When you look at the likes of Herman Franks, Preston Gomez, Joey Amalfitano..... it's not a stretch of the imagination in any way to believe that Ernie might have done a better job. Old man Wrigley, who really made more good decisions than people ever gave him credit for, finally put the issue to rest in one interview when he said , "Every manager that gets hired in the game of baseball, eventually gets fired. Ernie is a legend and has given more to this franchise than any other player. I don't know if I could do that to him."

 

Let Sandberg continue to be a legend also.

Fred makes an excellent point, as usual. It would be sad to see Sandberg coaching the Cubs, because at some point he'd wear out his welcome and it would be awful.