HOF BBWAA Ballot (Henderson & Jim Rice)

[OleMissCub]

In just under thirty minutes we should know. Henderson will obviously get in (should have been unanimous imo).

 

This is the last chance for Jim Rice who got 72.2 percent last year.

 

I think Henderson is the only one to get in. Jim Rice MAY just barely squeak in.

Edited January 12, 2009 by OleMissCub

[SouthSideRyan]

Jim Rice will get in, and probably be the worst player ever elected by the BBWAA.

[OleMissCub]

Jim Rice will get in, and probably be the worst player ever elected by the BBWAA.

 

80.2 WARP3 represent!

[UMFan83]

It's Rickey and Rice officially

[OleMissCub]

Henderson 94.8

Rice 76.4

Dawson 67.0

[OleMissCub]

Tim Raines only got 22%!!

 

That's nuts.

 

.294/.385/.425, 2600+ hits, 800+ stolen bases, 1500+ runs, 131.1 WARP3

[UMFan83]

If Rice played for the Twins during the peak of his career would he have gotten in?

[rocket]

If Rice played for the Twins during the peak of his career would he have gotten in?

 

yes because he was the most FEARED hitter.

 

i'm glad rice got in because i'm sick of hearing about him.

[OleMissCub]

If Rice played for the Twins during the peak of his career would he have gotten in?

 

A guy who is 5th All-Time in K's and 9th All-Time in shutouts with 287 Wins who played for the Twins for the majority of his career isn't close to getting in. No way Rice would have gotten in.

[OleMissCub]

Player Total Votes Percentage

Rickey Henderson 511 94.8%

Jim Rice 412 76.4%

Andre Dawson 361 67.0%

Bert Blyleven 338 62.7%

Lee Smith 240 44.5%

Jack Morris 237 44.0%

Tommy John 171 31.7%

Tim Raines 122 22.6%

Mark McGwire 118 21.9%

Alan Trammell 94 17.4%

Dave Parker 81 15.0%

Don Mattingly 64 11.9%

Dale Murphy 62 11.5%

Harold Baines 32 5.9%

Mark Grace 22 4.1%

David Cone 21 3.9%

Matt Williams 7 1.3%

Mo Vaughn 6 1.1%

Jay Bell 2 0.4%

Jesse Orosco 1 0.2%

Ron Gant 0 0%

Dan Plesac 0 0%

Greg Vaughn 0 0%

[rocket]

Players who had no shot of being in the HOF who have an equal or higher career OPS+ than Jim Rice:

 

Tim Salmon

John Olerud

Ryan Klesko

Moises Alou

David Justice

Bobby Bonds

Mo Vaughn

Juan Gonzalez

Danny Tartabull

John Kruk

Pedro Guerrero

Will Clark

Jack Clark

Darryl Strawberry

Kevin Mitchell

Albert Belle

[biittner77]

So, 20.4% of HOF voters are related to Jay Bell, owe him lots of money or confused him with someone else.

[wekse]

So, 20.4% of HOF voters are related to Jay Bell, owe him lots of money or confused him with someone else.

 

 

or he got 2 votes or .4% of the voters

[TruffleShuffle]

5.2% of people didn't vote for henderson? i'd like to see those names.

[SouthSideRyan]

Top of my head, guys I'd vote for over Rice.

 

Rickey Henderson

Andre Dawson

Bert Blyleven

Jack Morris

Tommy John

Tim Raines

Mark McGwire

Alan Trammell

Dave Parker

Don Mattingly

Dale Murphy

David Cone

Jay Bell

[SouthSideRyan]

And can Jack Morris's 15 years get over with soon please? I guarantee you he's the next Jim Rice for 70 year old sportswriters to write about it being a crime of humanity that he's not in the HOF.

[Sammy Sofa]

Rickey's the only one of this class that should be there.

 

The next 3 years look even worse.

[sweetpeteman]

Rickey's the only one of this class that should be there.

 

The next 3 years look even worse.

 

 

Blyleven.

[Backtobanks]

Maybe with three weak classes coming up, other deserving players (Dawson, Blyleven, etc.) may get in.

[rocket]

Top of my head, guys I'd vote for over Rice.

 

Rickey Henderson

Andre Dawson

Bert Blyleven

Jack Morris

Tommy John

Tim Raines

Mark McGwire

Alan Trammell

Dave Parker

Don Mattingly

Dale Murphy

David Cone

Jay Bell

 

i can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. but jim rice 100% deserves to get in over andre dawson, jack morris (wtf explain yourself), dave parker (wtf explain yourself), don mattingly, and dale murphy.

[abuck1220]

jay bell got 204% of the votes? wtf.

[abuck1220]

If Rice played for the Twins during the peak of his career would he have gotten in?

 

yes because he was the most FEARED hitter.

 

i'm glad rice got in because i'm sick of hearing about him.

 

jim rice owes tens of thousands of dollars in autograph $ to the senile old sportswriter who first coined that phrase with respect to rice.

[bukie]

Why Rob Neyer is one of my favorite baseball writers.

[jersey cubs fan]

If Rice played for the Twins during the peak of his career would he have gotten in?

 

yes because he was the most FEARED hitter.

 

i'm glad rice got in because i'm sick of hearing about him.

 

 

I thought it was most feared right handed hitter.

[SouthSideRyan]

Top of my head, guys I'd vote for over Rice.

 

Rickey Henderson

Andre Dawson

Bert Blyleven

Jack Morris

Tommy John

Tim Raines

Mark McGwire

Alan Trammell

Dave Parker

Don Mattingly

Dale Murphy

David Cone

Jay Bell

 

i can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. but jim rice 100% deserves to get in over andre dawson, jack morris (wtf explain yourself), dave parker (wtf explain yourself), don mattingly, and dale murphy.

 

I had a hard time explaining to my boss why I was putting people's heads on D-X's bodies, so I'm gonna try and stay away from multiple windows here:

 

Top of my head, Murphy and Parker are slightly lesser hitters than Rice with way more defensive value, and way more baserunning value. Mattingly, I recalled being a better hitter with some more defensive value added in. Dawson's a worse hitter with more defensive value and more baserunning value(probably a wash, but I give him some injury credit cause I'm a homer and Olympic Stadium sucked)

 

Jack Morris, I hate him, and you might be right, I can't remember how good or bad he was, I just know he had some longevity, but you're probably right, he doesn't belong over Rice.