Re: Peavy High on Cubs Wish List

[David]

I can't imagine us still being after Peavy with the Dempster signing.

I heard that the Dempster signing doesn't necessarily mean we will quit pursuing Peavy.

 

Peavy-Zambrano-Harden-Dempster-Lilly...*drool*

 

 

Yeah Hendry isn't the type of GM to close the door on a pitcher like Peavy.

 

Hendry doesn't control payroll. He has a certain amount of money to work with. If he spends like 10 mil on a RF I don't see how he can afford Peavy too

 

Marquis money in '09= Peavy money in '09

 

Next.

 

Huh? So you're assuming someone is going to take on Marquis' contract next year without us eating a big chunk of it? Yeah, good luck.

 

 

I highly doubt the few million we would have to eat on Marquis's would stop Hendry from getting Jake Peavy for the next several years if he has the opportunity to.

[CP_414]

If there is a way to get Peavy, Hendry will get him. I don't think this changes anything on the Peavy front. Remember the Cubs wanted BOTH Demp and Peavy about 2 weeks ago. I really don't think that will change.

 

According to like one or two crappy writers

 

 

He may not be great, but Ken Rosenthal was the one who said the Cubs want both. So far the only person who said we are out on Peavy is some dude at MLBTR. Again, we may very well back off Peavy, but I'd wait for something more legitimate before getting too worked up.

[David]

If there is a way to get Peavy, Hendry will get him. I don't think this changes anything on the Peavy front. Remember the Cubs wanted BOTH Demp and Peavy about 2 weeks ago. I really don't think that will change.

 

According to like one or two crappy writers

 

 

What writers aren't crappy?

 

Rosenthal was as high a profile guy reporting on this as there was and he, IIRC, reported that Dempster and Peavy wasn't a mutually exclusive proposition for the Cubs.

 

Again, that's IIRC and I'm much too lazy to look for quotes on this. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

[17 Seconds]

If there is a way to get Peavy, Hendry will get him. I don't think this changes anything on the Peavy front. Remember the Cubs wanted BOTH Demp and Peavy about 2 weeks ago. I really don't think that will change.

 

According to like one or two crappy writers

 

 

What writers aren't crappy?

 

Rosenthal was as high a profile guy reporting on this as there was and he, IIRC, reported that Dempster and Peavy wasn't a mutually exclusive proposition for the Cubs.

 

Again, that's IIRC and I'm much too lazy to look for quotes on this. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

 

That's kind of the point. Apparently Rosenthal is pretty terrible, except for when one of his rumors involves something good for the Cubs. Then he's very reputable. That's the way it seems here anyways

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

This article on the Dempster signing says the Cubs and Padres are still trying to find a third team to help consumate a Peavy deal.

 

Link.

 

The Cubs and the Padres will continue to cast about for a third team whose participation apparently will be required to make more realistic a trade of Jake Peavy to Chicago.

[David]

If there is a way to get Peavy, Hendry will get him. I don't think this changes anything on the Peavy front. Remember the Cubs wanted BOTH Demp and Peavy about 2 weeks ago. I really don't think that will change.

 

According to like one or two crappy writers

 

 

What writers aren't crappy?

 

Rosenthal was as high a profile guy reporting on this as there was and he, IIRC, reported that Dempster and Peavy wasn't a mutually exclusive proposition for the Cubs.

 

Again, that's IIRC and I'm much too lazy to look for quotes on this. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

 

That's kind of the point. Apparently Rosenthal is pretty terrible, except for when one of his rumors involves something good for the Cubs. Then he's very reputable. That's the way it seems here anyways

 

The point is everyone seems to think they all suck.

 

Take it all with a grain of salt, but then again, I would take Rosenthal's information that the Cubs want both (which is likely coming from some sort of source) over the guy at MLBTR's speculation.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Towers is now saying he may try to re-start talks with the Braves.

 

Link.

 

Towers wouldn't rule out the possibility of circling back around to the Braves, who last week said they were moving on after a deal couldn't be reached.

 

"You never know ... we certainly made more progress with them," Towers said. "We were able to ID and agree upon a large part of the package."

[David]

I mean, I think most of us believe Donnie's story, right? Seems far fetched that anybody could/would make up something that elaborate.

 

Peavy obviously seems to have a significant preference to come here, and that, along with the fact that ownership wants the big contracts shipped out, seems to be pretty key in this whole thing.

[JWCUB]

Towers is now saying he may try to re-start talks with the Braves.

 

Link.

 

Towers wouldn't rule out the possibility of circling back around to the Braves, who last week said they were moving on after a deal couldn't be reached.

 

"You never know ... we certainly made more progress with them," Towers said. "We were able to ID and agree upon a large part of the package."

 

NOOOOOOOOOO UGH!!!

[CP_414]

Towers is now saying he may try to re-start talks with the Braves.

 

Link.

 

Towers wouldn't rule out the possibility of circling back around to the Braves, who last week said they were moving on after a deal couldn't be reached.

 

"You never know ... we certainly made more progress with them," Towers said. "We were able to ID and agree upon a large part of the package."

 

I don't think that is anything different than what Towers has been saying recently. He seems to be leaving the door open with the Braves and even Yankees, but the last we heard he is focused on trying to make it work with the Cubs.

[David]

Towers is now saying he may try to re-start talks with the Braves.

 

Link.

 

Towers wouldn't rule out the possibility of circling back around to the Braves, who last week said they were moving on after a deal couldn't be reached.

 

"You never know ... we certainly made more progress with them," Towers said. "We were able to ID and agree upon a large part of the package."

 

I don't get all the Braves talk if he doesn't want to go there. Even if he was using the Braves to squeeze more out of the Cubs, I would imagine that orange has pretty much been squeezed dry. What is there to hold out for? Vitters?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Dave OBrien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution believes the Braves will ultimately end up with Peavy.

 

Link.

 

Since Matt Cain is not available (sorry, folks) and neither, probably, is Zack Greinke (sorry again, folks), and since Derek Lowe’s represented by Scott Boras and thus not likely to sign for, oh, at least a month or two, and with the Yankees looking for at least two starters and other big-market teams including the Dodgers, Mets and Angels looking for at least one, you can see where the free-agent market might not be the easiest place for a team with any sort of payroll restrictions to fill its needs.

 

Which is why Peavy made the most sense for the Braves

 

And no, Peavy has not told friends he doesn’t want to pitch for the Braves. He and his agent gave the Padres a list of five teams for which Jake would considering waiving his no-trade clause in a potential deal, and since they made that list nothing has changed about the city of Atlanta, its location in proximity to Peavy’s native Alabama, or its franchise and its chances, whatever they might be, of contending for a playoff spot next season.

 

Once the anger and/or frustration between Braves and Padres officials simmers a bit and cooler heads prevail, and once Padres GM Kevin Towers realizes that he can’t keep asking the salesman to keep adding accessories after the price for the car has already been agreed upon (just easing to offseason analogy mode; stick with me folks, just got back from a brief vacation), then I do believe this deal can and probably will still get done.

[David]

Question - Did Peavy make that list when he signed that contract (what was it, a year ago)? Did he just "give" them 5 teams this fall when they came to him about a trade? Is it something in the contract (which doesn't seem to be the case, because if it were, they wouldn't have to come to him for permission to deal him to one of said 5 teams)?

[JWCUB]

Hendrys motto is "You can never have enough pitching." He has an oppertunity to land one of the best pitchers in the game. If he thinks he has a shot, he will keep trying. He got Nomar when we all thought he couldn't. I'm sure he will make a big push for Peavy if he thinks he is close.

[CP_414]

Question - Did Peavy make that list when he signed that contract (what was it, a year ago)? Did he just "give" them 5 teams this fall when they came to him about a trade? Is it something in the contract (which doesn't seem to be the case, because if it were, they wouldn't have to come to him for permission to deal him to one of said 5 teams)?

 

I don't think it's in his contract. It has been presented that he listed those 5 cities as places he would like to go at the beginning of this offseason.

[mdwilla]

I think his agent his mentioned that the list given towers is fluid and can change. I don't think Peavy view the Braves as contenders and was sold by the pitch jobs of former Cubs to come here.

[JWCUB]

I think his agent his mentioned that the list given towers is fluid and can change. I don't think Peavy view the Braves as contenders and was sold by the pitch jobs of former Cubs to come here.

 

+1

[Post Count Padder]

Dave OBrien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution believes the Braves will ultimately end up with Peavy.

 

Link.

 

Since Matt Cain is not available (sorry, folks) and neither, probably, is Zack Greinke (sorry again, folks), and since Derek Lowe’s represented by Scott Boras and thus not likely to sign for, oh, at least a month or two, and with the Yankees looking for at least two starters and other big-market teams including the Dodgers, Mets and Angels looking for at least one, you can see where the free-agent market might not be the easiest place for a team with any sort of payroll restrictions to fill its needs.

 

Which is why Peavy made the most sense for the Braves

 

And no, Peavy has not told friends he doesn’t want to pitch for the Braves. He and his agent gave the Padres a list of five teams for which Jake would considering waiving his no-trade clause in a potential deal, and since they made that list nothing has changed about the city of Atlanta, its location in proximity to Peavy’s native Alabama, or its franchise and its chances, whatever they might be, of contending for a playoff spot next season.

 

Once the anger and/or frustration between Braves and Padres officials simmers a bit and cooler heads prevail, and once Padres GM Kevin Towers realizes that he can’t keep asking the salesman to keep adding accessories after the price for the car has already been agreed upon (just easing to offseason analogy mode; stick with me folks, just got back from a brief vacation), then I do believe this deal can and probably will still get done.

OBrien is in denial, thinks the Cubs have no chance or is over-the-top optimistic.

[haubrich91]

I just don't understand why Hendry doesn't give Towers what he wants. It's Jake freakin' Peavy.

 

Do what you have to do.

[mdwilla]

I just don't understand why Hendry doesn't give Towers what he wants. It's Jake freakin' Peavy.

 

Do what you have to do.

I don't think he can right now , Hendry is out searching for third/fourth team as Towers has been saying the past few days.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I just don't understand why Hendry doesn't give Towers what he wants. It's Jake freakin' Peavy.

 

Do what you have to do.

 

I'm not sure the Cubs have all of what the Padres want and so the need for a third or fourth team.

[BigbadB]

Question - Did Peavy make that list when he signed that contract (what was it, a year ago)? Did he just "give" them 5 teams this fall when they came to him about a trade? Is it something in the contract (which doesn't seem to be the case, because if it were, they wouldn't have to come to him for permission to deal him to one of said 5 teams)?

 

I don't think it's in his contract. It has been presented that he listed those 5 cities as places he would like to go at the beginning of this offseason.

 

Yeah, I don't think it's in his contract. I think he got full NTC protection. However, that the Padres need to trade him, and that the Padres have gone from a pennant chasing team to a bottom feeder, Peavy was willing to list a few teams he might be willing to waive his NTC to be traded to.

[17 Seconds]

I mean, I think most of us believe Donnie's story, right? Seems far fetched that anybody could/would make up something that elaborate.

 

Peavy obviously seems to have a significant preference to come here, and that, along with the fact that ownership wants the big contracts shipped out, seems to be pretty key in this whole thing.

 

I think people are putting way too much into Donnie's story. I don't mean that as an insult to Donnie and I believe what he says is true, but a lot could depend on how he interpreted things.

 

I mean, think about this for a second. Both Towers and Wren, 2 General Managers for MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL teams have been working on a potential trade for a while right? So you mean to tell me that's all been useless, and that Peavy would have never accepted a trade there anyways? And neither of those GMs wrere aware of that, yet some guy in a casino who briefly chatted to Peavy knew about it? Come on. You know perfectly well if we were Braves fans reading this stuff we'd laugh. The 2 millionaire GMs don't know about it, but DonnieD does? Plus there's the fact that Peavy had the Braves as one of the 5 teams he'd accept a trade to in the first place. I think people want to put too much into Donnie's story and aren't being reasonable because of it.

 

I think people are taking DonnieD/Peavy's words at the casino wayyyy too literally. If it's true that Peavy won't accept a trade to the Braves, then Wren and Towers would know about it and they wouldn't still be talking.

[17 Seconds]

I just don't understand why Hendry doesn't give Towers what he wants. It's Jake freakin' Peavy.

 

Do what you have to do.

 

He can't give what he doesn't have. Towers said it himself, the Cubs don't have enough pieces that are attractive to him, and that's why they're trying to get a 3rd team involved. You said it yourself, this is Jake Peavy. It's nt as simple as saying "do what you have to do".

[ConstableRabbit]

I mean, I think most of us believe Donnie's story, right? Seems far fetched that anybody could/would make up something that elaborate.

 

Peavy obviously seems to have a significant preference to come here, and that, along with the fact that ownership wants the big contracts shipped out, seems to be pretty key in this whole thing.

 

I mean, think about this for a second. Both Towers and Wren, 2 General Managers for MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL teams have been working on a potential trade for a while right? So you mean to tell me that's all been useless, and that Peavy would have never accepted a trade there anyways? And neither of those GMs wrere aware of that, yet some guy in a casino who briefly chatted to Peavy knew about it? Come on. You know perfectly well if we were Braves fans reading this stuff we'd laugh. The 2 millionaire GMs don't know about it, but DonnieD does? Plus there's the fact that Peavy had the Braves as one of the 5 teams he'd accept a trade to in the first place. I think people want to put too much into Donnie's story and aren't being reasonable because of it.

 

What if I told you DonnieD was a billionaire?