CC Sabathia Signs With Yankees for 7 years/$160 million

[Backtobanks]

I guess when you're making this much money a few million may not mean much, but I can't see leaving $30,000,000 on the table because I don't like NY. For that money, I would learn to love NY.

 

That's you, Backtobanks. Me, personally, Peace of Mind is worth more to me then an additional $30 million over the life of the contract. There's a reason why CC is stalling the Yankees. Could he end up in New York, yes. But gut feeling is saying talking the Yanks offer would be the last option he would do. I believe he is waiting for a "home town team" to offer a competitive offer, one he would jump at. I honestly believe in this case, CC does not want to pitch in New York, but will if it comes down to that.

 

I guess we can all say we would prefer the money or the peace of mind since none of us are in that position. Having taught in the inner city for 34 years, I would think that the extra $30 million could buy me a lot of "peace of mind". Peace of mind = no financial worries for me, my children, my grandchildren, my extended family, vacations, 2nd (and 3rd) homes anywhere in the world, etc. To put it another way, that "extra" $30 million is the equivalent of the average lifetime earning of 15-20 people. I'll take my chances on the "pressure" of pitching in front of Yankee fans 15-17 times a year.

[BigbadB]

Let's not forget that state taxes are significantly different from state to state.

[Backtobanks]

Let's not forget that state taxes are significantly different from state to state.

 

I don't know the tax rates in the states involved, but they would have to be pretty outrageous to eat up an extra $30 million over 6 years.

[BigbadB]

Let's not forget that state taxes are significantly different from state to state.

 

I don't know the tax rates in the states involved, but they would have to be pretty outrageous to eat up an extra $30 million over 6 years.

 

The point isn't that the difference between states would eat it all up, but can significantly minimize the difference.

[Backtobanks]

Using the rumored Yankees ($140 million) and Brewers ($110 million) offers the difference in state income tax is about $500,000 per year times 6 years = app. $3 million. That leaves a net profit of app. $27 million for NY's offer over the Brewers. Of course, there are other considerations (cost of living, etc.), but that would probably be balanced out by other things (increased endorsements in NY, etc.).

[Little Slide Rooter]

Using the rumored Yankees ($140 million) and Brewers ($110 million) offers the difference in state income tax is about $500,000 per year times 6 years = app. $3 million. That leaves a net profit of app. $27 million for NY's offer over the Brewers. Of course, there are other considerations (cost of living, etc.), but that would probably be balanced out by other things (increased endorsements in NY, etc.).

 

I think its pretty safe to say he'l be living comfortably in either city.

[CoolHandLuke]

What if CC wants to swim at a beach without his mouth getting full of saltwater, huh?

 

Saltwater is one of my least favorite things in the world. Sand is pretty close too. Come to think of it, swimming probably cracks the top ten. I guess you could say that I just don't care for beaches all that much.

 

 

I think it's safe to say that 98% of us do not want CC signing with Milwaukee.

[Guest]

What if CC wants to swim at a beach without his mouth getting full of saltwater, huh?

 

Saltwater is one of my least favorite things in the world. Sand is pretty close too. Come to think of it, swimming probably cracks the top ten. I guess you could say that I just don't care for beaches all that much.

 

 

I think it's safe to say that 98% of us do not want CC signing with Milwaukee.

I don't know about that. CC's contract could cripple the flexibility of a small-market team for many years. I'd never tie up that much cash into a player that's one pitch away from uselessness if I were the GM of Milwaukee.

[Little Slide Rooter]

What if CC wants to swim at a beach without his mouth getting full of saltwater, huh?

 

Saltwater is one of my least favorite things in the world. Sand is pretty close too. Come to think of it, swimming probably cracks the top ten. I guess you could say that I just don't care for beaches all that much.

 

 

I think it's safe to say that 98% of us do not want CC signing with Milwaukee.

I don't know about that. CC's contract could cripple the flexibility of a small-market team for many years. I'd never tie up that much cash into a player that's one pitch away from uselessness if I were the GM of Milwaukee.

 

Especially when you have guys like Fielder, Hardy, and Weeks who will be FAs in the next few years, and all of the sudden they're left either replacing them from within or with cheap alternatives. Perhaps they can learn from the Padres that you need more than 1 ace and a few quality bats to put a team togther.

[Vanilla Ice]

I want them to sign C.C. There is no way that a small market team should sign a pitcher to 110 million dollar contract, much less Sabathia. His arm has been abused so much that it isn't funny. I would almost guarantee that he will be hurt in a big way by the end of 2010. Add to the fact that they were going to have trouble affording Fielder, Hardy, Hart, Weeks, Gallardo, and Parra anyways. I want them to sign C.C.

[Bull]

I'm not convinced 6/$150 is going to get Sabathia. There's always the chance Brian Sabean or Ned Colletti does something stupid, and Sabathia actually seems like the kind of guy who isn't prone to just take the biggest offer. He'd be under a ton of pressure from the union to take it, though.

The Sabathia signing might be fine for the first year or two, but I agree that there's almost no chance of him getting through that contract unscathed.

Would he? I doubt it. I don't think the union gets involved in pressuring players to sign with one team over another. If I were a player and they were trying to pressure me into signing with a team I didn't really want to sign with because they offered a little more than someone else regardless of my own family and personal concerns, I'd take great offense to that. That would be incredibly inappropriate on the part of the union.

 

Thats what unions are all about.

[Jehrico]

I'm not convinced 6/$150 is going to get Sabathia. There's always the chance Brian Sabean or Ned Colletti does something stupid, and Sabathia actually seems like the kind of guy who isn't prone to just take the biggest offer. He'd be under a ton of pressure from the union to take it, though.

The Sabathia signing might be fine for the first year or two, but I agree that there's almost no chance of him getting through that contract unscathed.

Would he? I doubt it. I don't think the union gets involved in pressuring players to sign with one team over another. If I were a player and they were trying to pressure me into signing with a team I didn't really want to sign with because they offered a little more than someone else regardless of my own family and personal concerns, I'd take great offense to that. That would be incredibly inappropriate on the part of the union.

 

Thats what unions are all about.

not really.

[Ball And Glove]

For what it's worth, there are rumors going around that the Brewers may be willing to sweeten their offer by offering an opt-out clause after two years. Something like that could really benefit the Brewers and Sabathia at the same time -- Milwaukee could probably afford to take the hit of having Sabathia making $20-25 million a year without crippling the franchise, and Sabathia could make a quick $40-50 million while further improving his value and waiting for the economy to rebound.

 

I'm against the Brewers signing Sabathia (but I'm generally against signing any pitcher long-term), but if something like that was a possibility, I could get behind it. It'd buy them a bit if time to find a replacement...by then some more guys might be ready to step in from the minors.

 

Of course, this is all moot if the Yankees feel like bumping up their offer or if Sabathia can convince the Dodgers to get involved.

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i'm flabbergasted

[Bote McBoteface]

Darn, I was hoping the Yankees would miss out on every one of their top choices and finish in 4th place this year.

[laurens]

Hey, let's see the Yankees put a 250-million team on the field this year so they can get their asses kicked by a bunch of 20-something year old Rays again.

[Jehrico]

12 starts until he's booed off the mound and pulls a Pavano on them...

[Cynosure]

Sabathia to sign with Yankees! GET OUT OF MY DIVISION!

 

6/140!

[Little Slide Rooter]

Sabathia to sign with Yankees! GET OUT OF MY DIVISION!

 

6/140!

 

You do realize that we slapped CC around when we faced him dont you?

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Sabathia to sign with Yankees! GET OUT OF MY DIVISION!

 

6/140!

 

You do realize that we slapped CC around when we faced him dont you?

 

2.78 ERA, 1.10 WHIP, 15/3 K/BB against the Cubs last year

[Little Slide Rooter]

Sabathia to sign with Yankees! GET OUT OF MY DIVISION!

 

6/140!

 

You do realize that we slapped CC around when we faced him dont you?

 

2.78 ERA, 1.10 WHIP, 15/3 K/BB against the Cubs last year

 

Didnt we chase him after like 6 innings both times we faced him?

[17 Seconds]

Sabathia to sign with Yankees! GET OUT OF MY DIVISION!

 

6/140!

 

You do realize that we slapped CC around when we faced him dont you?

 

2.78 ERA, 1.10 WHIP, 15/3 K/BB against the Cubs last year

 

Didnt we chase him after like 6 innings both times we faced him?

 

Faced him 3 times.. he went 6.2, 7, and 9.

 

Anyways, I think the guy was happy that he's out of the division because it makes the Brewers worse.

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ESPN is now saying 7/160. Yikes.

[Derwood]

biggest contract (for a pitcher) in baseball history, and yet the Yankees still have the audacity to ask for tax-payer money to build their new stadium

[UMFan83]

Sabathia to sign with Yankees! GET OUT OF MY DIVISION!

 

6/140!

 

You do realize that we slapped CC around when we faced him dont you?

 

2.78 ERA, 1.10 WHIP, 15/3 K/BB against the Cubs last year

 

Numbers were heavily skewed by his last performance when they were playing the apathetic Cubs, with a lineup with like 3-4 regulars on the last day of the regular season. I wouldn't say we slapped him around in his other starts, but we got to him better than any NL team that wasn't facing him with less than 4 days rest. I mean he only gave up more than 2 ERs in 3 NL starts, and 2 of them were against us.