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Its an absolute joke how many people, national media and Chicago media included, are making a big deal about how quiet the crowd supposedly was. Hardly anyone is mentioning the piss poor play of the Chicago Cubs, theyd rather focus on the damn crowd, give me a break. When your starting pitcher walks 7 batters in 4 2/3 innings, and proceeds to give up a grand slam, the crowd is going to be silent. Add in the fact that it was pretty damn chilly at the game and its even more understandable.

 

I also really wish the Chicago media would grow a pair and start questioning some of Lous decisions. This is the 2nd straight year that in game 1 of the NLDS, our manager has crapped the bed. There is no justification at all for putting Fukudome in the 2 hole last night, and not Theriot. The Cubs had the best offense in the regular season, and the majority of the season it was with Theriot in the 2 spot. Also last year Lou couldnt pull Z quick enough in game 1, now this year he just lets Demp sit out there and throw ball after ball after ball. Some of the players are playing tight, and so is our manager. Im hoping for a Sori bomb in the 1st tonight to loosen everybody up.

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Its an absolute joke how many people, national media and Chicago media included, are making a big deal about how quiet the crowd supposedly was. Hardly anyone is mentioning the piss poor play of the Chicago Cubs, theyd rather focus on the damn crowd, give me a break. When your starting pitcher walks 7 batters in 4 2/3 innings, and proceeds to give up a grand slam, the crowd is going to be silent. Add in the fact that it was pretty damn chilly at the game and its even more understandable.

 

Outside of the weak "chilly" excuse, none of that explains why many of us were noticing how quiet and subdued the crowd was by Wrigley standards *before* the fifth inning.

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Its an absolute joke how many people, national media and Chicago media included, are making a big deal about how quiet the crowd supposedly was. Hardly anyone is mentioning the piss poor play of the Chicago Cubs, theyd rather focus on the damn crowd, give me a break. When your starting pitcher walks 7 batters in 4 2/3 innings, and proceeds to give up a grand slam, the crowd is going to be silent. Add in the fact that it was pretty damn chilly at the game and its even more understandable.

 

Outside of the weak "chilly" excuse, none of that explains why many of us were noticing how quiet and subdued the crowd was by Wrigley standards *before* the fifth inning.

 

 

Dempster boring them to sleep is a pretty good reason

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Its an absolute joke how many people, national media and Chicago media included, are making a big deal about how quiet the crowd supposedly was. Hardly anyone is mentioning the piss poor play of the Chicago Cubs, theyd rather focus on the damn crowd, give me a break. When your starting pitcher walks 7 batters in 4 2/3 innings, and proceeds to give up a grand slam, the crowd is going to be silent. Add in the fact that it was pretty damn chilly at the game and its even more understandable.

 

Outside of the weak "chilly" excuse, none of that explains why many of us were noticing how quiet and subdued the crowd was by Wrigley standards *before* the fifth inning.

 

 

Dempster boring them to sleep is a pretty good reason

 

So if your pitcher is shutting out the opponent through four and you are winning 2-0 in the opening game of the playoffs, but the pitcher looks kinda wild doing it, that's reason enough to show less enthusiasm than a regular-season Cubs-Brewers game?

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I was watching the whole game with sound. There's no way you can tell me that crowd was as consistently enthusiastic as a normal Wrigley crowd even before the grand slam.

 

Earlier in the year, you'd see the crowd on its feet every time a pitcher got to two strikes or the Cubs had a runner on base.

Then you got the wrong impression on TV. For one, you can't judge the crowd based on the five rows behind home plate. And crowd volume is not consistent from telecast to telecast. It was much louder than the average Cubs game.

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Its an absolute joke how many people, national media and Chicago media included, are making a big deal about how quiet the crowd supposedly was. Hardly anyone is mentioning the piss poor play of the Chicago Cubs, theyd rather focus on the damn crowd, give me a break. When your starting pitcher walks 7 batters in 4 2/3 innings, and proceeds to give up a grand slam, the crowd is going to be silent. Add in the fact that it was pretty damn chilly at the game and its even more understandable.

 

Outside of the weak "chilly" excuse, none of that explains why many of us were noticing how quiet and subdued the crowd was by Wrigley standards *before* the fifth inning.

 

 

Dempster boring them to sleep is a pretty good reason

 

So if your pitcher is shutting out the opponent through four and you are winning 2-0 in the opening game of the playoffs, but the pitcher looks kinda wild doing it, that's reason enough to show less enthusiasm than a regular-season Cubs-Brewers game?

 

"kinda wild" is a very loose description, he sucked.

 

Anecdotaly it looked to me like there was a hell of a lot more old people there than usual, and old people do not like standing up and making noise - see pink hat guy. Speaking of pink hat guy, I felt the vibe was off because he was in the wrong seat.

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I was watching the whole game with sound. There's no way you can tell me that crowd was as consistently enthusiastic as a normal Wrigley crowd even before the grand slam.

 

Earlier in the year, you'd see the crowd on its feet every time a pitcher got to two strikes or the Cubs had a runner on base.

Then you got the wrong impression on TV. For one, you can't judge the crowd based on the five rows behind home plate. And crowd volume is not consistent from telecast to telecast. It was much louder than the average Cubs game.

 

Then they were being loud while sitting on their butts far more often than many Wrigley crowds do.

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It was a blast, I love postseason baseball!!!

 

Edit: Actually it was horrible. The crowd felt like they were waiting for the Cubs to lose from the first pitch. Honestly, I don't blame the psyche given what happened last year. If the Cubs would have won last night, tonight's game would have been absolutely rocking. We need to get past that psychological bump of winning a postseason game.

 

I actually saw the guy next to me cry after the grand slam. Crying in the 5th inning of game 1 of a playoff series. Unbelievable.

 

Crying because of the other team doing anything is pathetic. The only way I'd cry in baseball is when the Cubs finally win it.

 

i cried after game 3 last year and i don't consider myself to be pathetic

 

:beee:

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i actually said something about how quiet it was to the guy next to me. it was the top of the 4th inning...he agreed. you could feel how nervous the crowd was. even the reaction to the DeRo homer was somehow hollow, like the crowd could feel what was coming.

 

I was apprehensive when the game started, but I didn't expect the rest of the crowd to be. When DeRo hit the homer, memories of 2008 came flushing over me, and suddenly I got the confidence I had in the regular season back. But when the offense did nothing the next 2 innings, I started counting the outs, something that's never good to do in the 4th inning. Honestly, until Loney hit the HR, I expected Demp to get out of it. But once that HR was hit, I felt like I got punched in the stomach. Suddenly my confidence turned into extreme pessimism, and you couldnt convince me the Cubs would come back

I was pretty close to that, though I wasn't counting down the remaining outs. I was counting down the remaining outs until Dempster would be done and hopefully turn it over to Marmol. I was watching his pitch count the entire game, though, so counting the outs until the 8th soon turned into the 7th...and then the 6th.

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I was watching the whole game with sound. There's no way you can tell me that crowd was as consistently enthusiastic as a normal Wrigley crowd even before the grand slam.

 

Earlier in the year, you'd see the crowd on its feet every time a pitcher got to two strikes or the Cubs had a runner on base.

Then you got the wrong impression on TV. For one, you can't judge the crowd based on the five rows behind home plate. And crowd volume is not consistent from telecast to telecast. It was much louder than the average Cubs game.

 

Then they were being loud while sitting on their butts far more often than many Wrigley crowds do.

No, there was more standing yesterday evening than the average Cubs game, as well. Just not after the grand slam.

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I was watching the whole game with sound. There's no way you can tell me that crowd was as consistently enthusiastic as a normal Wrigley crowd even before the grand slam.

 

Earlier in the year, you'd see the crowd on its feet every time a pitcher got to two strikes or the Cubs had a runner on base.

Then you got the wrong impression on TV. For one, you can't judge the crowd based on the five rows behind home plate. And crowd volume is not consistent from telecast to telecast. It was much louder than the average Cubs game.

 

Then they were being loud while sitting on their butts far more often than many Wrigley crowds do.

No, there was more standing yesterday evening than the average Cubs game, as well. Just not after the grand slam.

 

Then the TV broadcast was misleading, because a lot of people got the impression independently that the crowd was relatively subdued.

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I was watching the whole game with sound. There's no way you can tell me that crowd was as consistently enthusiastic as a normal Wrigley crowd even before the grand slam.

 

Earlier in the year, you'd see the crowd on its feet every time a pitcher got to two strikes or the Cubs had a runner on base.

Then you got the wrong impression on TV. For one, you can't judge the crowd based on the five rows behind home plate. And crowd volume is not consistent from telecast to telecast. It was much louder than the average Cubs game.

 

Then they were being loud while sitting on their butts far more often than many Wrigley crowds do.

 

I'm not sure how you noticed that on the tv. They didn't show the crowd nearly as much as a regular Cubs broadcast does. All I could see were behind home plate, and behind each side of the batters box.

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Its an absolute joke how many people, national media and Chicago media included, are making a big deal about how quiet the crowd supposedly was. Hardly anyone is mentioning the piss poor play of the Chicago Cubs, theyd rather focus on the damn crowd, give me a break. When your starting pitcher walks 7 batters in 4 2/3 innings, and proceeds to give up a grand slam, the crowd is going to be silent. Add in the fact that it was pretty damn chilly at the game and its even more understandable.

 

Outside of the weak "chilly" excuse, none of that explains why many of us were noticing how quiet and subdued the crowd was by Wrigley standards *before* the fifth inning.

 

 

Dempster boring them to sleep is a pretty good reason

 

So if your pitcher is shutting out the opponent through four and you are winning 2-0 in the opening game of the playoffs, but the pitcher looks kinda wild doing it, that's reason enough to show less enthusiasm than a regular-season Cubs-Brewers game?

 

Dempster was playing with fire from the 1st inning on. Everybody watching the game could tell he had no command. When you keep letting guys get on base inning after inning its going to come back and bite you, and everybody in the crowd knew that.

 

And I will admit alot of these people werent the normal typical Cubs fan that goes to Wrigley. With the price of seats and such, it was a different crowd. However, for so much of the focus to be put on the crowd is downright ignorant. Demp sucked last night, Soriano sucked last night, and so did others, but yet the main talk has been on the crowd. Stupid

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Then the TV broadcast was misleading, because a lot of people got the impression independently that the crowd was relatively subdued.

 

you are talking about a network that doesn't do much baseball and is very different than the typical cubs broadcast. CSN and WGN purposefully show fans getting on their feet as part of their show, TBS isn't going to have that kind of bias.

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And I will admit alot of these people werent the normal typical Cubs fan that goes to Wrigley. With the price of seats and such, it was a different crowd. However, for so much of the focus to be put on the crowd is downright ignorant. Demp sucked last night, Soriano sucked last night, and so did others, but yet the main talk has been on the crowd. Stupid

 

Where has the main talk been about the crowd, though?

 

It's been mentioned because, false perception or real, it seemed odd to a lot of people. But the talks of what happened in game 1 (and what might happen next) still dominate.

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Then the TV broadcast was misleading, because a lot of people got the impression independently that the crowd was relatively subdued.

 

you are talking about a network that doesn't do much baseball and is very different than the typical cubs broadcast. CSN and WGN purposefully show fans getting on their feet as part of their show, TBS isn't going to have that kind of bias.

 

I can tentatively buy that.

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And I will admit alot of these people werent the normal typical Cubs fan that goes to Wrigley. With the price of seats and such, it was a different crowd. However, for so much of the focus to be put on the crowd is downright ignorant. Demp sucked last night, Soriano sucked last night, and so did others, but yet the main talk has been on the crowd. Stupid

 

Where has the main talk been about the crowd, though?

 

It's been mentioned because, false perception or real, it seemed odd to a lot of people. But the talks of what happened in game 1 (and what might happen next) still dominate.

 

Its the main theme on Chicago sports radio today, believe me.

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And I will admit alot of these people werent the normal typical Cubs fan that goes to Wrigley. With the price of seats and such, it was a different crowd. However, for so much of the focus to be put on the crowd is downright ignorant. Demp sucked last night, Soriano sucked last night, and so did others, but yet the main talk has been on the crowd. Stupid

 

Where has the main talk been about the crowd, though?

 

It's been mentioned because, false perception or real, it seemed odd to a lot of people. But the talks of what happened in game 1 (and what might happen next) still dominate.

 

Its the main theme on Chicago sports radio today, believe me.

 

I read Bruce's articles and avoided everything else today. No way would I ever considering listening to Chicago sports radio right now.

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And I will admit alot of these people werent the normal typical Cubs fan that goes to Wrigley. With the price of seats and such, it was a different crowd. However, for so much of the focus to be put on the crowd is downright ignorant. Demp sucked last night, Soriano sucked last night, and so did others, but yet the main talk has been on the crowd. Stupid

 

Where has the main talk been about the crowd, though?

 

It's been mentioned because, false perception or real, it seemed odd to a lot of people. But the talks of what happened in game 1 (and what might happen next) still dominate.

 

Its the main theme on Chicago sports radio today, believe me.

 

I read Bruce's articles and avoided everything else today. No way would I ever considering listening to Chicago sports radio right now.

 

Yea I have an hour long drive home from work at 7am in the morning so I usually listen to WSCR. Hell last nights postgame with David Kaplan was ridiculous. He was hammering the fans, and the same thing this morning. That schmuck TJ Simers from LA can go to hell. He was such a pompous ass this morning on WSCR.

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And I will admit alot of these people werent the normal typical Cubs fan that goes to Wrigley. With the price of seats and such, it was a different crowd. However, for so much of the focus to be put on the crowd is downright ignorant. Demp sucked last night, Soriano sucked last night, and so did others, but yet the main talk has been on the crowd. Stupid

 

Where has the main talk been about the crowd, though?

 

It's been mentioned because, false perception or real, it seemed odd to a lot of people. But the talks of what happened in game 1 (and what might happen next) still dominate.

 

Its the main theme on Chicago sports radio today, believe me.

 

I read Bruce's articles and avoided everything else today. No way would I ever considering listening to Chicago sports radio right now.

 

Yea I have an hour long drive home from work at 7am in the morning so I usually listen to WSCR. Hell last nights postgame with David Kaplan was ridiculous. He was hammering the fans, and the same thing this morning. That schmuck TJ Simers from LA can go to hell. He was such a pompous ass this morning on WSCR.

 

So do I. Keep your sanity and read a book.

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And I will admit alot of these people werent the normal typical Cubs fan that goes to Wrigley. With the price of seats and such, it was a different crowd. However, for so much of the focus to be put on the crowd is downright ignorant. Demp sucked last night, Soriano sucked last night, and so did others, but yet the main talk has been on the crowd. Stupid

 

Where has the main talk been about the crowd, though?

 

It's been mentioned because, false perception or real, it seemed odd to a lot of people. But the talks of what happened in game 1 (and what might happen next) still dominate.

 

Its the main theme on Chicago sports radio today, believe me.

 

I read Bruce's articles and avoided everything else today. No way would I ever considering listening to Chicago sports radio right now.

 

Yea I have an hour long drive home from work at 7am in the morning so I usually listen to WSCR. Hell last nights postgame with David Kaplan was ridiculous. He was hammering the fans, and the same thing this morning. That schmuck TJ Simers from LA can go to hell. He was such a pompous ass this morning on WSCR.

 

So do I. Keep your sanity and read a book.

 

Keep your blood and don't.

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And I will admit alot of these people werent the normal typical Cubs fan that goes to Wrigley. With the price of seats and such, it was a different crowd. However, for so much of the focus to be put on the crowd is downright ignorant. Demp sucked last night, Soriano sucked last night, and so did others, but yet the main talk has been on the crowd. Stupid

 

Where has the main talk been about the crowd, though?

 

It's been mentioned because, false perception or real, it seemed odd to a lot of people. But the talks of what happened in game 1 (and what might happen next) still dominate.

 

Its the main theme on Chicago sports radio today, believe me.

 

I read Bruce's articles and avoided everything else today. No way would I ever considering listening to Chicago sports radio right now.

 

Yea I have an hour long drive home from work at 7am in the morning so I usually listen to WSCR. Hell last nights postgame with David Kaplan was ridiculous. He was hammering the fans, and the same thing this morning. That schmuck TJ Simers from LA can go to hell. He was such a pompous ass this morning on WSCR.

 

So do I. Keep your sanity and read a book.

 

Keep your blood and don't.

 

Oops...I could of sworn I read he took a train. Wow. I'm losing it folks

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Out here in LA, the sports media is mocking the Cubs' fans for being so quiet last night. I think after the Phillies and Sox crowds rocking from the first pitch on they expected more from the Cubs' crowd.

 

In 2003 I was in Atlanta when Cubs fans shamed Braves fans into making some noise after Game 1 sounded like it was at Wrigley. I think most casual MLB fans expect that sort of noise at every Cubs playoff game.

 

Another thought, could the higher cost of tickets have something to do with the crowd that shows up at games? I used to live about a half mile from the Meadowlands and I have to say that while Giants fans that I saw in bars were really into the games, the lawyers and old money families that had season tickets were amongst the quietest fans I ever saw at an NFL game. Same kind of effect last night?

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Out here in LA, the sports media is mocking the Cubs' fans for being so quiet last night. I think after the Phillies and Sox crowds rocking from the first pitch on they expected more from the Cubs' crowd.

 

In 2003 I was in Atlanta when Cubs fans shamed Braves fans into making some noise after Game 1 sounded like it was at Wrigley. I think most casual MLB fans expect that sort of noise at every Cubs playoff game.

 

Another thought, could the higher cost of tickets have something to do with the crowd that shows up at games? I used to live about a half mile from the Meadowlands and I have to say that while Giants fans that I saw in bars were really into the games, the lawyers and old money families that had season tickets were amongst the quietest fans I ever saw at an NFL game. Same kind of effect last night?

 

 

Absolutely. Walking on the concourse, you could tell who had not been to a game all season. The people on my right last night were at their second game ever in Wrigley, the couple to my left never came back after leaving in the second inning.

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Out here in LA, the sports media is mocking the Cubs' fans for being so quiet last night. I think after the Phillies and Sox crowds rocking from the first pitch on they expected more from the Cubs' crowd.

 

Who's been saying that?

 

I heard a few guys who were jealous that the Dodgers crowd couldn't be as loud as Wrigley's yesterday. Of course one of those guys was Petros, but still.

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