Jake Peavy: Available.

[David]

:-)) at the except for me part..

[17 Seconds]

By the way, Hendry should take notes from Wren on how to have some balls and not get jerked around for too long. Even if Wren is just posturing, at least he stepped up and put a stop to the back and forth waste of time stuff. hendry let the O's jerk around way too long last offseason.

 

What was lost in doing that?

 

Respect. He basically said to every other GM out there that he can be jerked around for months and you won't lose him

 

Do you really think Hendry lost respect among other GM's because he has not satisfied your media obligation in telling you everything that is going on?

 

 

Wait, what did I ever say about him not tleling us stuff?

 

All I'm saying is that it's not a good example to set that you can be haggled for 5 months and not walk away

 

Well part of the reason that all of us(except for David) are freaking out right now is because he refused to haggle and walked away prematurely. I'd rather a GM stay in a conversation too long than walk away too soon.

 

I'm pretty sure he wasn't in danger of walking away too soon when they were still discussing Roberts into spring training

 

Anyways, what Wren said doesn't automatically mean he's walking away

 

So if you don't think Wren is walking away, what is he doing differently than Hendry other than announcing to the media that he will look at other pitchers. It's already been reported that Hendry is doing the same.

 

And if everyone could stop making me defend Hendry on the day this quote from Wood came out that would be aces.

 

I think you're misunderstanding. Nothing I'm saying has anything to do with hendry's pursuit of Peavy. I was talking about the Roberts fiasco from last offseason. I have no problem with hendry still being in the Peavy talks

[Guancous]

By the way, Hendry should take notes from Wren on how to have some balls and not get jerked around for too long. Even if Wren is just posturing, at least he stepped up and put a stop to the back and forth waste of time stuff. hendry let the O's jerk around way too long last offseason.

 

What was lost in doing that?

 

Respect. He basically said to every other GM out there that he can be jerked around for months and you won't lose him

 

Like how Beane jerked him around over Harden? Or did Jim just bowl him over with his exorbitant offer that Beane had to say yes? And Beinfest's puppet in Florida?

 

Yes you're right. Those examples completely prove that GM's didn't take note of the way the Orioles messed with Hendry for months. Good work.

 

That last statement makes more sense if you read it as being completely sincere.

[David]

lol it really does.

[Guancous]

What does DonnieD have to say about Atlanta dropping out? He hasn't completely earned my trust but we're one step closer to: drop Wood, trade for Peavy, resign Dempster.

[BigbadB]

What if Hendry has an inside guy as well that knows that Peavy only wants to go to the Cubs, so that is why he has a low offer on the table for him. I hope Hendry doesn't lose out on Peavy cuz of him being too cheap. Give up something!!

 

It's probably not that Hendry is being too cheap, but rather Towers wants a certain package from the Braves.

 

Here is the likely reason nothing his happening.

 

Towers wants a combination of at least 2 players from this group: Hanson, Heyward, Schafer, Escobar, Flowers, and then a 3rd prospect along the lines of Hernandez, Reyes, Morton, etc...

 

The Cubs offer is currently better than what the Braves are offering, but Towers wants the Braves to cave, so they aren't willing to sign off yet on a deal to the Cubs since there is always the possibility that the Braves will up the offer.

 

Honestly, if I'm Towers, the Braves prospects are who I would be targeting if I'm trading Peavy.

[shnsajax]

By the way, Hendry should take notes from Wren on how to have some balls and not get jerked around for too long. Even if Wren is just posturing, at least he stepped up and put a stop to the back and forth waste of time stuff. hendry let the O's jerk around way too long last offseason.

 

What was lost in doing that?

 

Respect. He basically said to every other GM out there that he can be jerked around for months and you won't lose him

 

Do you really think Hendry lost respect among other GM's because he has not satisfied your media obligation in telling you everything that is going on?

 

 

Wait, what did I ever say about him not tleling us stuff?

 

All I'm saying is that it's not a good example to set that you can be haggled for 5 months and not walk away

 

So how did he lose respect, and from who?

[17 Seconds]

By the way, Hendry should take notes from Wren on how to have some balls and not get jerked around for too long. Even if Wren is just posturing, at least he stepped up and put a stop to the back and forth waste of time stuff. hendry let the O's jerk around way too long last offseason.

 

What was lost in doing that?

 

Respect. He basically said to every other GM out there that he can be jerked around for months and you won't lose him

 

Like how Beane jerked him around over Harden? Or did Jim just bowl him over with his exorbitant offer that Beane had to say yes? And Beinfest's puppet in Florida?

 

Yes you're right. Those examples completely prove that GM's didn't take note of the way the Orioles messed with Hendry for months. Good work.

 

That last statement makes more sense if you read it as being completely sincere.

 

So you're saying that the fact Hendry got Rich Harden proves that no GM will ever think "I can probably haggle for longer with him....the O's did it for 5 months"?

 

Really? That proves that?

 

Hell, it's possible that it's playing a role in the Peavy talks right now. I'm not saying it is, but we don't know that it's not

 

My point stands that it set a bad example by allowing the Orioles to mess with him for so long. You can't deny that.

[17 Seconds]

By the way, Hendry should take notes from Wren on how to have some balls and not get jerked around for too long. Even if Wren is just posturing, at least he stepped up and put a stop to the back and forth waste of time stuff. hendry let the O's jerk around way too long last offseason.

 

What was lost in doing that?

 

Respect. He basically said to every other GM out there that he can be jerked around for months and you won't lose him

 

Do you really think Hendry lost respect among other GM's because he has not satisfied your media obligation in telling you everything that is going on?

 

 

Wait, what did I ever say about him not tleling us stuff?

 

All I'm saying is that it's not a good example to set that you can be haggled for 5 months and not walk away

 

So how did he lose respect, and from who?

 

jesus christ. I wasn't saying that it has cost us anything or that it will cost us anything. All I'm saying is that it's a bad example to set.

 

By the way, I remember reading an article on either BA or BP that was saying the same thing

[The Other 15]

Any chance that Peavy is holding Towers hostage by privately informing him that he only wants to play for the Cubs and this is Towers' dance to try to get as much as possible from Hendry?

[17 Seconds]

Any chance that Peavy is holding Towers hostage by privately informing him that he only wants to play for the Cubs and this is Towers' dance to try to get as much as possible from Hendry?

 

I thought about that too

[cubsfan26]

I'd rather still be in negations for a good player, then be stubborn and stop the trade talks because it's taking to long to get a deal done. What does it hurt to keep talks going? It's not like Hendry only has to talk to that team, or try to make a deal with just that team. The only negative would be if Hendry is unwilling to do other trades to keep the players for the other potential trade, and Hendry has shown no signs of doing that. But to let your ego get in the way to say take it or leave it, or worry about if their showing you enough respect or not is just silly stuff. Plus from what I have heard Hendry is well liked by many GM's around the league.

[JWCUB]

Any chance that Peavy is holding Towers hostage by privately informing him that he only wants to play for the Cubs and this is Towers' dance to try to get as much as possible from Hendry?

 

Thats the only thing that I can think of. Unless Towers thinks he can get more than what the Cubs are offering elsewhere. Maybe DonnieD knows what hes talking about.

[17 Seconds]

I'd rather still be in negations for a good player, then be stubborn and stop the trade talks because it's taking to long to get a deal done. What does it hurt to keep talks going? It's not like Hendry only has to talk to that team, or try to make a deal with just that team. The only negative would be if Hendry is unwilling to do other trades to keep the players for the other potential trade, and Hendry has shown no signs of doing that. But to let your ego get in the way to say take it or leave it, or worry about if their showing you enough respect or not is just silly stuff. Plus from what I have heard Hendry is well liked by many GM's around the league.

 

Well you can still do what Wren did while not actually closing the door. I'm sure that Towers could still accept the Braves package if he wanted. My point was just that it's not a good example to set that you can mess with a guy for 5 months and he'll stil be waiting on your every move. It's not a big deal, I'm just saying that it's not good.

[17 Seconds]

Remember when DonnieD said he'd reveal his "source" on Friday if nothing had happened?

[mdwilla]

Hendry could still be trying to get a third team to make a deal work.

[Guest]

Remember when DonnieD said he'd reveal his "source" on Friday if nothing had happened?

Maybe he will...remember, he posts late at night.

[JWCUB]

Remember when DonnieD said he'd reveal his "source" on Friday if nothing had happened?

Maybe he will...remember, he posts late at night.

 

Raisin, was that you that he gave the info too?

[Elrhino]

My point stands that it set a bad example by allowing the Orioles to mess with him for so long. You can't deny that.

If anyone looked bad in that situation it was the Orioles, not Hendry. GM's want to know they can negotiate with someone in good faith without getting the run around or having the rug yanked out from underneat them (especially after things start getting leaked to the press). The Orioles have long had a front office reputation of being so completely unorganized and chaotic that they're almost impossible to deal with. There's a reason why that Bedard trade took almost 2 months to finally get completed.

[17 Seconds]

My point stands that it set a bad example by allowing the Orioles to mess with him for so long. You can't deny that.

If anyone looked bad in that situation it was the Orioles, not Hendry. GM's want to know they can negotiate with someone in good faith without getting the run around or having the rug yanked out from underneat them (especially after things start getting leaked to the press). The Orioles have long had a front office reputation of being so completely unorganized and chaotic that they're almost impossible to deal with. There's a reason why that Bedard trade took almost 2 months to finally get completed.

 

I'm not necessarily he "looked bad", just that he set a bad example. GMs know Baltimore's deal. My point is that if GMs see someone get messed with they know they can do the same. I'd say that most GM's would have told the O's to eff off after a couple months like Wren basically did with the Braves.

[RedFlash]

Any chance that Peavy is holding Towers hostage by privately informing him that he only wants to play for the Cubs and this is Towers' dance to try to get as much as possible from Hendry?

 

I think this thought has some merit given that Wren has pulled the Braves out of the Peavy sweepstakes. (If you believe they are actually out)

[Electron Blue]

Remember when DonnieD said he'd reveal his "source" on Friday if nothing had happened?

Maybe he will...remember, he posts late at night.

 

I think I asked this awhile ago, but I don't remember getting an answer:

 

what could he possibly be able to divulge on this certain day that he couldn't before. Obviously you can't say exactly, but can anyone give an example of how that even makes sense?

[BigbadB]

Remember when DonnieD said he'd reveal his "source" on Friday if nothing had happened?

Maybe he will...remember, he posts late at night.

 

I think I asked this awhile ago, but I don't remember getting an answer:

 

what could he possibly be able to divulge on this certain day that he couldn't before. Obviously you can't say exactly, but can anyone give an example of how that even makes sense?

 

From what I read, I'm guessing he won't divulge his information until after a deal is made.

[Electron Blue]

Remember when DonnieD said he'd reveal his "source" on Friday if nothing had happened?

Maybe he will...remember, he posts late at night.

 

I think I asked this awhile ago, but I don't remember getting an answer:

 

what could he possibly be able to divulge on this certain day that he couldn't before. Obviously you can't say exactly, but can anyone give an example of how that even makes sense?

 

From what I read, I'm guessing he won't divulge his information until after a deal is made.

 

see, that makes a bit more sense. . . but it seems some people were expecting something Friday (I think I recall Donnie saying something about Friday, too.)

[Guancous]

Jim Hendry was in position to wait last year. He didn't get Roberts and the team won 97 games. It's not like he was going after Roy Halladay because he had four rookies in the starting rotation. Time was not of the essence.

 

If anything, it showed that Hendry is reasonable in the face of unforeseen circumstances.