9/3 Astros (Wolf) @ COBS (Dempster) 7:05 CSN Chicago

[PrimeTime]

Just Say No To

 

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[Mizzou]

The offense did enough, but it doesn't mean you can pick on them for grounding into 4 double plays, 2 with the bases loaded. Most days, we would hardly notice because we'd have won the game, but some days the pitching isn't going to be there.

 

What happens in those situations is basically a matter of luck or happenstance. The idea is to get a lot of base runners on so that some of those times when we happen to get hits, there are runners on. We're inevitably going to fail more often than not in those situations. That's a fact. For people to be complaining about not getting hits in certain cherry picked situations is missing the point, entirely.

Luck? Sure, sometimes. If you hammer the ball but it goes directly towards the third baseman's glove, yes, that's bad luck. But grounding out to SS when you need a fly ball isn't bad luck. It's bad hitting. Most of the time when people fail in those situations, it isn't because they're unlucky. It's because of a bad approach.

[jersey cubs fan]

The offense did enough, but it doesn't mean you can pick on them for grounding into 4 double plays, 2 with the bases loaded. Most days, we would hardly notice because we'd have won the game, but some days the pitching isn't going to be there.

 

What happens in those situations is basically a matter of luck or happenstance. The idea is to get a lot of base runners on so that some of those times when we happen to get hits, there are runners on. We're inevitably going to fail more often than not in those situations. That's a fact. For people to be complaining about not getting hits in certain cherry picked situations is missing the point, entirely.

Luck? Sure, sometimes. If you hammer the ball but it goes directly towards the third baseman's glove, yes, that's bad luck. But grounding out to SS when you need a fly ball isn't bad luck. It's bad hitting. Most of the time when people fail in those situations, it isn't because they're unlucky. It's because of a bad approach.

 

I doubt it's "most of the time".

[Ski]

Although I'm deck with the game thread, I hope never to make one until next year. Go CUBS!

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Enough of the bullhowry, it's time to win!

[haubrich91]

Please win.

[Andy]

Put the Astros in the

 

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[Mizzou]

The offense did enough, but it doesn't mean you can pick on them for grounding into 4 double plays, 2 with the bases loaded. Most days, we would hardly notice because we'd have won the game, but some days the pitching isn't going to be there.

 

What happens in those situations is basically a matter of luck or happenstance. The idea is to get a lot of base runners on so that some of those times when we happen to get hits, there are runners on. We're inevitably going to fail more often than not in those situations. That's a fact. For people to be complaining about not getting hits in certain cherry picked situations is missing the point, entirely.

Luck? Sure, sometimes. If you hammer the ball but it goes directly towards the third baseman's glove, yes, that's bad luck. But grounding out to SS when you need a fly ball isn't bad luck. It's bad hitting. Most of the time when people fail in those situations, it isn't because they're unlucky. It's because of a bad approach.

 

I doubt it's "most of the time".

You really think that more than half of the time when a guy fails with the bases loaded, it's because he's unlucky? I sure don't.

[bcl412]

The offense did enough, but it doesn't mean you can pick on them for grounding into 4 double plays, 2 with the bases loaded. Most days, we would hardly notice because we'd have won the game, but some days the pitching isn't going to be there.

 

What happens in those situations is basically a matter of luck or happenstance. The idea is to get a lot of base runners on so that some of those times when we happen to get hits, there are runners on. We're inevitably going to fail more often than not in those situations. That's a fact. For people to be complaining about not getting hits in certain cherry picked situations is missing the point, entirely.

Luck? Sure, sometimes. If you hammer the ball but it goes directly towards the third baseman's glove, yes, that's bad luck. But grounding out to SS when you need a fly ball isn't bad luck. It's bad hitting. Most of the time when people fail in those situations, it isn't because they're unlucky. It's because of a bad approach.

 

Hitting a fly ball deep enough to score on a sac fly isn't the easiest thing to do. Especially when a pitcher is pitching the ball low for the sole purpose of preventing you from doing so.

[jersey cubs fan]

You really think that more than half of the time when a guy fails with the bases loaded, it's because he's unlucky? I sure don't.

 

I'm saying that guys usually fail because it's baseball and in most situations guys fail more than half the time.

[PrimeTime]

LOL at these guys on CSN..Saying Marquis could be the savior the rest of the way and be the hero in the playoffs

[David]

The offense did enough, but it doesn't mean you can pick on them for grounding into 4 double plays, 2 with the bases loaded. Most days, we would hardly notice because we'd have won the game, but some days the pitching isn't going to be there.

 

What happens in those situations is basically a matter of luck or happenstance. The idea is to get a lot of base runners on so that some of those times when we happen to get hits, there are runners on. We're inevitably going to fail more often than not in those situations. That's a fact. For people to be complaining about not getting hits in certain cherry picked situations is missing the point, entirely.

Luck? Sure, sometimes. If you hammer the ball but it goes directly towards the third baseman's glove, yes, that's bad luck. But grounding out to SS when you need a fly ball isn't bad luck. It's bad hitting. Most of the time when people fail in those situations, it isn't because they're unlucky. It's because of a bad approach.

 

I doubt it's "most of the time".

You really think that more than half of the time when a guy fails with the bases loaded, it's because he's unlucky? I sure don't.

 

 

It's not about being lucky or unlucky. I'm not saying that we didn't get a hit because we were unlucky, or we got a hit because we were lucky. Hitting is extremely luck dependent. There are of factors coming into play to determine whether a hit happens or not. You honestly think that if a hitter went up there with the "correct" approach he'd have success more than half the time? Because, damn, that would be the key to unlocking the best offensive player in the history of the game.

[David]

It's the reason you can't tell a good hitter from a bad one without looking at a record of hundreds of plate appearances.

[Ski]

You really think that more than half of the time when a guy fails with the bases loaded, it's because he's unlucky? I sure don't.

 

I'm saying that guys usually fail because it's baseball and in most situations guys fail more than half the time.

"Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer." -Ted Williams.

[Mizzou]

The offense did enough, but it doesn't mean you can pick on them for grounding into 4 double plays, 2 with the bases loaded. Most days, we would hardly notice because we'd have won the game, but some days the pitching isn't going to be there.

 

What happens in those situations is basically a matter of luck or happenstance. The idea is to get a lot of base runners on so that some of those times when we happen to get hits, there are runners on. We're inevitably going to fail more often than not in those situations. That's a fact. For people to be complaining about not getting hits in certain cherry picked situations is missing the point, entirely.

Luck? Sure, sometimes. If you hammer the ball but it goes directly towards the third baseman's glove, yes, that's bad luck. But grounding out to SS when you need a fly ball isn't bad luck. It's bad hitting. Most of the time when people fail in those situations, it isn't because they're unlucky. It's because of a bad approach.

 

I doubt it's "most of the time".

You really think that more than half of the time when a guy fails with the bases loaded, it's because he's unlucky? I sure don't.

 

 

It's not about being lucky or unlucky. I'm not saying that we didn't get a hit because we were unlucky, or we got a hit because we were lucky. Hitting is extremely luck dependent. There are of factors coming into play to determine whether a hit happens or not. You honestly think that if a hitter went up there with the "correct" approach he'd have success more than half the time? Because, damn, that would be the key to unlocking the best offensive player in the history of the game.

No, I don't think that. I just took issue with the first sentence of your original post, where you basically chalk everything up to luck in bases loaded situations. Or at least it came off that way.

[BigbadB]

The offense was perfectly fine last night. I will concede that Lee's at bat with the bases loaded was not one of his finer moments. When a pitcher is as wild as Wright was, don't give the guy an easy way out of the jam he created. Make him throw strikes. Swinging at a low pitch with a 1-0 count was just what he was hoping Lee would do, and Lee fell for it.

[WrigleyinEngland]

When it's all said and done if we limp in to the playoffs on one leg or with no arms or shoulders or elbows then worry about matchups etc. If we don't see harden & Z again until october but get in i won't lose a second of sleep.

[CubColtPacer]

Lineups

 

Astros

 

Bourn

Wigginton

Tejada

Berkman

Blum

Pence

Newhan

Quintero

Wolf

 

Cubs

 

Soriano

Theriot

Lee

Ramirez

Soto

DeRosa

Johnson

Cedeno

Dempster

[bcruise]

Enough of the bullhowry, it's time to win!

If that was an actual filter, it'd be the funniest thing ever. I actually tried it in the preview window before posting this. :(

[Ski]

Someone should set up an AIM chat, since I won't be able to watch this game.

[bhogg]

what inning will dempster develop shoulder / arm / elbow discomfort?

[Mizzou]

No Fukudome again?

[David]

No Fukudome again?

 

 

Well, it is a lefty

 

but yea

 

I'm not necessarily a huge fan of going ALL righty vs a lefty either... but Lou pretty much always does it

[Ski]

AIM chat up, room name is "cobsquitsucking"

[David]

Have Len and Bob addressed Z at all?