Would you trade Lee?

[shnsajax]

To sign Teixeira in the offseason? It's going to cost extra, we would have a lot tied up in two offensive players.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

A lot would depend on what we get for Lee. If I could afford Teix and add an extra good player by trading Lee, certainly.

 

But if it's just swapping Lee for a very expensive Teix, probably not.

[RedFlash]

A lot would depend on what we get for Lee. If I could afford Teix and add an extra good player by trading Lee, certainly.

 

But if it's just swapping Lee for a very expensive Teix, probably not.

 

Exactly. But it also depends on teams interested. If Atlanta only had 2 teams to move Tex (Ari and LAA) then what kind of market would Lee have?

[rocket]

I'm open to trading anyone, but not Lee just for the sake of putting in an extremely expensive Texiera, who isn't that much better than Lee.

[Magnetic Curses]

if we can nab a few prospects, definitely.

[USSoccer]

Only if we move Soriano to 1B

[Post Count Padder]

Only if we move Soriano to 1B

That would be odd to watch.

[PackLandVA]

Does DLee NOT have a NTC? Edited August 4, 2008 by PackLandVA

[Ding Dong Johnson]

DOES DLee NOT have a NTC?

WHY are you PARTIALLY yelling at US? yes, he does

[PackLandVA]

Internet Torettes!

 

I fixed it.

[CubColtPacer]

The only issue I have is the timing issue. If I could be promised to swap them, I'd almost certainly do it and pick up the extra prospects. However, if one side falls through, I either have 2 expensive first baseman, or a big hole at first base. It's a massive risk that I'm not sure can be mitigated enough to be worth the benefit.

[Jehrico]

It would have to be one hell of a haul for Lee. Either an ace or some uber-prospects.

[RedFlash]

The only issue I have is the timing issue. If I could be promised to swap them, I'd almost certainly do it and pick up the extra prospects. However, if one side falls through, I either have 2 expensive first baseman, or a big hole at first base. It's a massive risk that I'm not sure can be mitigated enough to be worth the benefit.

 

My issue is how many teams will be looking for a first baseman this offseason? Baltimore? San Francisco? Perhaps Kansas City? Unless Billy Butler can show why he was a former uber prospect. Maybe the Yankees. Maybe Detroit.

 

Personally I would like to see Perry and Lee work on Lee's swing. For a big guy, he shouldn't be putting the ball on ground, he should be booming them onto Waveland. But apparently this yr, Lee has decided he rather be like Willie Mays Hays instead of Pedro Serrano.

[Sammy Sofa]

The only issue I have is the timing issue. If I could be promised to swap them, I'd almost certainly do it and pick up the extra prospects. However, if one side falls through, I either have 2 expensive first baseman, or a big hole at first base. It's a massive risk that I'm not sure can be mitigated enough to be worth the benefit.

 

My issue is how many teams will be looking for a first baseman this offseason? Baltimore? San Francisco? Perhaps Kansas City? Unless Billy Butler can show why he was a former uber prospect. Maybe the Yankees. Maybe Detroit.

 

Personally I would like to see Perry and Lee work on Lee's swing. For a big guy, he shouldn't be putting the ball on ground, he should be booming them onto Waveland. But apparently this yr, Lee has decided he rather be like Willie Mays Hays instead of Pedro Serrano.

 

I don't know, his numbers seem to be hovering around his career stats, and wouldn't be surprising to see him stick around there. I really wouldn't mind the Cubs looking for a new #3 after this season since the power boosts from guys like Fontenot and Edmonds aren't something you can really count on. Lee would still make a damn fine #2 or #5 hitter, though I have no idea where the Cubs could get another big bat to play. Fukudome's basically blocking that option.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Colletti isn't very bright, but is he dim enough to trade Loney?

 

Even with Lee's down year there's not as many viable alternatives than I would have guessed.

[TheDude]

Even with Lee's down year there's not as many viable alternatives than I would have guessed.

 

Lee's down year still projects at 22 HR, 37 2B, 90 Runs, 89 RBI, and .833 OPS. That level of production (assuming all others remain constant) puts Lee at 12th in the MLB for 1B in OPS. The emergence of Kevin Youkilis, Adrian Gonzalez and Conor Jackson, plus Detroit's decision to move Cabrera to 1B, has raised the number of +.870 OPS 1B by 4 year.

 

A hot last 50 games could push him up to 25 HR, 100 Runs, 100 RBI, and .860 OPS, but he still falls short of the .870 mark that defines the top 10 1B in 2008.

 

I'm not sure there is any real value in trading your club house leader with that kind of production for a decent upgrade (+ .050-.070 OPS) unless the trade returns an everyday, young big leaguer. I wouldn't make any deal that brought high ceiling prospects that aren't yet ready and could bust.

 

In short, it would have to be a damn good deal and there are few scenarios to envision at this point.

[Backtobanks]

Colletti isn't very bright, but is he dim enough to trade Loney?

 

Even with Lee's down year there's not as many viable alternatives than I would have guessed.

 

I wouldn't want to trade Lee, but since you brought it up, Lee + Pie for Loney + Kemp would be tempting during the offseason.

[javy knows my name]

Colletti isn't very bright, but is he dim enough to trade Loney?

 

Even with Lee's down year there's not as many viable alternatives than I would have guessed.

 

I wouldn't want to trade Lee, but since you brought it up, Lee + Pie for Loney + Kemp would be tempting during the offseason.

Just tempting!? I'd do that in a heartbeat.

[rchap24]

I would, but like most people have said we'd have to get something respectable in return. Just trading him to fit in Texieria would be a mistake and a ton of money.

[jersey cubs fan]

Even with Lee's down year there's not as many viable alternatives than I would have guessed.

 

Lee's down year still projects at 22 HR, 37 2B, 90 Runs, 89 RBI, and .833 OPS. That level of production (assuming all others remain constant) puts Lee at 12th in the MLB for 1B in OPS.

 

You say that like it's a good thing.

[Lefty]

Lee is not the player he was even in 2003. He'll be 33 in September and his decline has been pretty noticeable. The next two years could be really frustrating. But as someone else wrote, what are the viable options? If he's average, maybe we have to settle for that.

[rchap24]

Lee is not the player he was even in 2003. He'll be 33 in September and his decline has been pretty noticeable. The next two years could be really frustrating. But as someone else wrote, what are the viable options? If he's average, maybe we have to settle for that.

 

I think dealing with him is that bad...We need an actual 3 hitter though. If you keep him at first with his great defense you can get by with him batting 2 or 5 or 6. We need an actual 3 hitter though or a guy with pop which leave obviously doesn't really have anymore at the 3 spot. That's my take. I don't think we need to get rid of him we just need an actual 3 hitter.

[Sammy Sofa]

Lee is not the player he was even in 2003. He'll be 33 in September and his decline has been pretty noticeable. The next two years could be really frustrating. But as someone else wrote, what are the viable options? If he's average, maybe we have to settle for that.

 

I think dealing with him is that bad...We need an actual 3 hitter though. If you keep him at first with his great defense you can get by with him batting 2 or 5 or 6. We need an actual 3 hitter though or a guy with pop which leave obviously doesn't really have anymore at the 3 spot. That's my take. I don't think we need to get rid of him we just need an actual 3 hitter.

 

And it would be easiest to fill that slot by finding a corner outfielder with some pop, and the only way that happens is if Kosuke is moved to CF for the rest of his time here, which I have no problem with. Use Pie as part of a package to net a corner OF masher.

[Old Style]

I wouldn't be opposed to a deal if it was a good one. He's not untouchable.

[rchap24]

Lee is not the player he was even in 2003. He'll be 33 in September and his decline has been pretty noticeable. The next two years could be really frustrating. But as someone else wrote, what are the viable options? If he's average, maybe we have to settle for that.

 

I think dealing with him is that bad...We need an actual 3 hitter though. If you keep him at first with his great defense you can get by with him batting 2 or 5 or 6. We need an actual 3 hitter though or a guy with pop which leave obviously doesn't really have anymore at the 3 spot. That's my take. I don't think we need to get rid of him we just need an actual 3 hitter.

 

And it would be easiest to fill that slot by finding a corner outfielder with some pop, and the only way that happens is if Kosuke is moved to CF for the rest of his time here, which I have no problem with. Use Pie as part of a package to net a corner OF masher.

 

I definitely would prefer that and hold on to DLee