The Chicago Bears Preseason Thread

[Handlebar McSkullet]

I liked the Olson pick and still do but damn there had to be a good tackle in there at one of those other 3 picks.

 

First round picks like Olson shouldn't be sharing time. They should also be able to block. He is always going to have a quick guy on him because whenever he is in the game, you know he isn't there to block.

 

he isnt "sharing" time because he cant block, he is sharing time because he and dez clark are their two best receivers and both need to be on the field. this olson cant block thing is a myth.

 

No it's not a myth. They had to draft a blocking TE because Olson can't do it.

 

If Clark is better, then it was a mistake to draft him. First rounders aren't supposed to share time. Even if two TEs are on the field at the same time, Olson should be getting more time than Clark was at his draft position.

 

Are you pulling this out of the air? None of what you said is contrived from actual fact.

1) Kellen davis isnt a BLOCKING te by any stretch, he is just a tight end, an athletic tight end at that who like Olson isnt known for his blocking. Also, they didn't HAVE to draft a "blocking" tight end, they just drafted tight end who has the ability to be a good player past his draft slot. All they NEEDED was a 3rd te because gilmore left, and they had none on the roster.

2) "first rounders aren't supposed to share time" isnt even close to true. It all depends on the position. TE in this offense is similar to WR, DE, DT, CB. Two or more of them are on the field at one time, and it does not mean that one couldn't beat the other one out. The bears have to luxury and the need to play both Clark and Olson and it has nothing to do with ability to block. Clark being on the field as much as a Olson is a testament to Clark's worth not Olson's ineffectiveness.

3) Now if you argue that the Bears should have drafted Tony Ugoh or Arron Sears instead of Olson is hindsight, but no one doubted that Olson was the best skill position player available, and he will have a major impact on the offense.

 

Bottom line is "Olson cant block" was generated from draft reports not from actual performance, and looks like you didnt read those same draft reports when you state that Davis was a "blocking te". Olson is actually in a lot of packages the play him in the backfield as a lead blocker/hback, and If he was completely incapable of blocking im sure they would place someone else back there.

[rawaction]

I liked the Olson pick and still do but damn there had to be a good tackle in there at one of those other 3 picks.

 

First round picks like Olson shouldn't be sharing time. They should also be able to block. He is always going to have a quick guy on him because whenever he is in the game, you know he isn't there to block.

 

he isnt "sharing" time because he cant block, he is sharing time because he and dez clark are their two best receivers and both need to be on the field. this olson cant block thing is a myth.

 

No Olsen is a pretty crappy blocker. Easily in the bottom 1/3 of TEs.

[jersey cubs fan]

I liked the Olson pick and still do but damn there had to be a good tackle in there at one of those other 3 picks.

 

First round picks like Olson shouldn't be sharing time. They should also be able to block. He is always going to have a quick guy on him because whenever he is in the game, you know he isn't there to block.

 

he isnt "sharing" time because he cant block, he is sharing time because he and dez clark are their two best receivers and both need to be on the field. this olson cant block thing is a myth.

 

No Olsen is a pretty crappy blocker. Easily in the bottom 1/3 of TEs.

 

You'd never put him in a strictly blocking capacity, but he's adequate as a blocker, as far as receiving tight ends are concerned. Clark is easily the best all-around TE on the roster (OH AND BY THE WAY ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO WHINED ABOUT NEEDING A TE WHEN CLARK WAS HERE ALL ALONG, SOME OF US KNEW THIS FACT BEFORE NOW), but Olsen provides a more dynamic pass catching target. The new guy probably has more of a chance to be like Clark than Gilmore.

[Soul]

I liked the Olson pick and still do but damn there had to be a good tackle in there at one of those other 3 picks.

 

First round picks like Olson shouldn't be sharing time. They should also be able to block. He is always going to have a quick guy on him because whenever he is in the game, you know he isn't there to block.

 

he isnt "sharing" time because he cant block, he is sharing time because he and dez clark are their two best receivers and both need to be on the field. this olson cant block thing is a myth.

 

No Olsen is a pretty crappy blocker. Easily in the bottom 1/3 of TEs.

 

You'd never put him in a strictly blocking capacity, but he's adequate as a blocker, as far as receiving tight ends are concerned. Clark is easily the best all-around TE on the roster (OH AND BY THE WAY ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO WHINED ABOUT NEEDING A TE WHEN CLARK WAS HERE ALL ALONG, SOME OF US KNEW THIS FACT BEFORE NOW), but Olsen provides a more dynamic pass catching target. The new guy probably has more of a chance to be like Clark than Gilmore.

 

The calls for TE help were not completely unjustified at the time.

[jersey cubs fan]

The calls for TE help were not completely unjustified at the time.

 

The desperation of the calls were unjustified. Clark is a perfectly capable #1 TE. TE help would have been appropriate, but people were dying for a first round TE. I'm not complaining about the Olsen pick, but the Bears have always had bigger needs than TE, most notably QB and OL. First round picks in general should be difference makers, and there are very few true difference makers at the TE position, and even fewer of them that came from the first round. Everybody is obsessed with the big body that's also fast with good hands, but those guys are more luxury than must have players.

 

Get your offensive line set, find a QB, and you can turn most any second tier TE into a pass catching machine.

[Soul]

The calls for TE help were not completely unjustified at the time.

 

The desperation of the calls were unjustified. Clark is a perfectly capable #1 TE. TE help would have been appropriate, but people were dying for a first round TE. I'm not complaining about the Olsen pick, but the Bears have always had bigger needs than TE, most notably QB and OL. First round picks in general should be difference makers, and there are very few true difference makers at the TE position, and even fewer of them that came from the first round. Everybody is obsessed with the big body that's also fast with good hands, but those guys are more luxury than must have players.

 

Get your offensive line set, find a QB, and you can turn most any second tier TE into a pass catching machine.

If Angelo just would have backfilled OL with some of those mid round picks instead of wasting them on weird reaches we'd probably be fine. But I agree with you in principle -- OL should have been addressed all along, over TE.

[Banedon]

Lindsay Lohan thinks Kyle Orton is "super-hot".

[Soul]

Lindsay Lohan thinks Kyle Orton is "super-hot".

 

Lauper thinks he's hot too. We can't lose.

[David]

Lindsay Lohan thinks Kyle Orton is "super-hot".

 

Ha... In 05 he was banging some very average Asian girl I knew from Northwestern.

 

Now he could conceivably have a shot with LiLo (or maybe a 3-some with that DJ chick)... :lol:

 

 

But yea, it would be an upgrade, trust me.

 

And that's not saying as much about Lohan as it is about this other chick. I still don't know WTH he was thinking.

[jersey cubs fan]

Lindsay Lohan thinks Kyle Orton is "super-hot".

 

Ha... In 05 he was banging some very average Asian girl I knew from Northwestern.

 

Now he could conceivably have a shot with LiLo (or maybe a 3-some with that DJ chick)... :lol:

 

 

But yea, it would be an upgrade, trust me.

 

And that's not saying as much about Lohan as it is about this other chick. I still don't know WTH he was thinking.

 

Lohan and her hideous gal pal would probably be a downgrade from his rather average looking wife.

[Derwood]

Lohan bored with Michael Phelps already?

[David]

 

Lohan and her hideous gal pal would probably be a downgrade from his rather average looking wife.

 

 

wow... you're right... i probably should have done the GIS before I made that remark.

 

Lindsey Lohan has her days (or maybe had, I guess), though...

 

 

No idea what his wife looks like.

[SpongeWorthy]

No idea what his wife looks like.

 

http://vinoandsprit.com/images/jack-daniels.jpg

[TruffleShuffle]

wait lindsay lohan is gay now?

[Derwood]

wait lindsay lohan is gay now?

 

she didn't got to college so she needs to get it out of her system

[UMFan83]

wait lindsay lohan is gay now?

 

Yup. Also not sure if you saw but the Cubs traded for Rich Harden and Chad Gaudin.

[Burtonbell]

Manning Jr cut:

 

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2008/08/bears-release-m.html

 

I know he said he was unhappy with playing time and what not, but this comes as a surprise to me.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

Manning Jr cut:

 

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2008/08/bears-release-m.html

 

I know he said he was unhappy with playing time and what not, but this comes as a surprise to me.

 

his cap number was ridiculous for his production. plus zach bowman has played really well.

[jersey cubs fan]

Manning Jr cut:

 

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2008/08/bears-release-m.html

 

I know he said he was unhappy with playing time and what not, but this comes as a surprise to me.

 

his cap number was ridiculous for his production. plus zach bowman has played really well.

 

Burton, if that comes as a surprise, you've done a bad job following the Bears this preseason (almost as bad a job as they've done playing this preseason). The beat writers have all been saying he was not in their plans this season and was likely to be cut or dealt.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-080826-david-haugh-chicago-bears-53-man-roster,0,2636657.column

 

David Haugh predicted the final roster today. He uses some weird numbers though. 6 running backs (2 FB, 4 RB), 2 QB - I would be surprised if this team didn't have a 3rd QB on the roster opening day, they use 3 every year. He lists Bazuin, Wolfe and Stelz as guys who are likely to be kept due to their draft status more than their actual ability.

 

Personally, I see no reason to go with 6 RB. Wolfe is worthless. He can't return kicks, can't hold onto the ball and brings next to nothing to the running game. You can't have a screen pass specialist on your roster. I don't get why they would keep Williams active. Sure, you'd like to have him for the stretch run, to improve the line and get him experience. However, the only way the team is in contention in the stretch run is if the line is surprisingly good, in which case you would not be desperate for his help in week 9 or 10. Just get the guy 100% for 2009, and use roster spots for the 2008 team on guys who can play in the first half of the season. Cut the worthless draft picks from recent years, keep Bradley, who has shown ability when given a chance to play but has rarely been given a chance to play. Make sure you have a 3rd QB, either a soon-to-be released veteran or Hanie.

[ConstableRabbit]

Lindsay Lohan thinks Kyle Orton is "super-hot".

Ha... In 05 he was banging some very average Asian girl I knew from Northwestern.

 

Now he could conceivably have a shot with LiLo (or maybe a 3-some with that DJ chick)... :lol:

 

 

But yea, it would be an upgrade, trust me.

 

And that's not saying as much about Lohan as it is about this other chick. I still don't know WTH he was thinking.

This is true. The Bears came to NU on a Monday night (which is a bar night at northwestern) and then drove from the bars to campus drunk and chilled in my dorm.

 

Joe Odom swiped a girl in my dorm's V-card. Humming the NFL on FOX theme every time I passed her never got old (unless we were playing an AFC team, then it was the CBS song)

[Soul]

I'd IR Williams. I'm ready for Wolfe to go; I hate when the Bears hang on to a player I truly feel is done anyway but they're just doing it because they can't accept they made a bad pick. But such is life.

[Burtonbell]

Manning Jr cut:

 

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2008/08/bears-release-m.html

 

I know he said he was unhappy with playing time and what not, but this comes as a surprise to me.

 

his cap number was ridiculous for his production. plus zach bowman has played really well.

 

Burton, if that comes as a surprise, you've done a bad job following the Bears this preseason (almost as bad a job as they've done playing this preseason). The beat writers have all been saying he was not in their plans this season and was likely to be cut or dealt.

 

Yeah, I haven't been following them as close as I have in the past, I admit that. I thought his performance was much better, but on second look its terrible. And I thought his contract was ok, but on second look that was bad as well. I will do my best to keep up. :cry:

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah, I haven't been following them as close as I have in the past, I admit that. I thought his performance was much better, but on second look its terrible. And I thought his contract was ok, but on second look that was bad as well. I will do my best to keep up. :cry:

 

I was just messing with you.

 

There has been very little worth paying attention to this offseason (and last). It's been all about who should be demoted or cut rather than who is winning a job. I hold onto a small amount of hope that all the low expectations and ignoring of the Bears will actually breed some anger and get this defense to carry them through the season. But I still have a hard time envisioning them repeating last year's win total, let alone surpassing it.

[Banedon]

David Haugh predicted the final roster today. He uses some weird numbers though. 6 running backs (2 FB, 4 RB), 2 QB - I would be surprised if this team didn't have a 3rd QB on the roster opening day, they use 3 every year. He lists Bazuin, Wolfe and Stelz as guys who are likely to be kept due to their draft status more than their actual ability.

 

Haugh's been saying this pretty consistently on Tribune Live on CSN too. 6 RB, 2 QB. And it seems like David is right an awful lot. I with you though...keep Hanie, ditch Wolfe. Wolfe isn't ever going to be more than is right now, IMO.

[apete6]

David Haugh predicted the final roster today. He uses some weird numbers though. 6 running backs (2 FB, 4 RB), 2 QB - I would be surprised if this team didn't have a 3rd QB on the roster opening day, they use 3 every year. He lists Bazuin, Wolfe and Stelz as guys who are likely to be kept due to their draft status more than their actual ability.

 

Haugh's been saying this pretty consistently on Tribune Live on CSN too. 6 RB, 2 QB. And it seems like David is right an awful lot. I with you though...keep Hanie, ditch Wolfe. Wolfe isn't ever going to be more than is right now, IMO.

 

Hanie doesn't count toward the 53 man roster because the 3rd QB is "inactive" for the games and can't play unless the first 2 guys get hurt and once they play in a game, the other guys can't come back in.