Re: College Basketball 2008-2009

[TruffleShuffle]

I'd rather win the Humanitarian Bowl than lose in the Rose Bowl.

 

i guess this is a valid comparison if 65 teams are playing in the rose bowl and then another 32 played in the humanitarian bowl. seems to me the field would be awfully crowded.

 

and illinois lost as a #5 seed in the 5-12 game, which is probably the equivalent of the outback bowl. penn st won 5 games in the NIT and beat baylor in a matchup of teams probably ranked around #50 out of 340, so that's like winning the peach bowl or something. i'd rather win the peach bowl than lose in the outback bowl.

 

Yea I like how you have failed to mention that the Illini lost to a 12 seed that was a Sweet 16 team the previous year, and also didnt have their starting PG....

 

ok so there were extenuating circumstances for them losing in the outback bowl. happy?

[SouthSideRyan]

Fox of Nevada to UGA.

[illiniguy]

Fox of Nevada to UGA.

I don't get why coaches want to take the jobs around Duke and UNC. You're never going to be able to recruit with the big boys. I get the money, but I am sure he made pretty good money at Nevada.

[SouthSideRyan]

Fox of Nevada to UGA.

I don't get why coaches want to take the jobs around Duke and UNC. You're never going to be able to recruit with the big boys. I get the money, but I am sure he made pretty good money at Nevada.

 

Fox was making 500K at Nevada, 1.3M at Georgia. Ideally, he'd wait out til he could grab a Pac-10 job, but I think it's tough to pass that up unless he sees another Fazekas on the horizon who could make him a hot commodity again. Guy's a solid coach, but he hasn't seemed that in demand the past couple years.(Missed the last 2 NCAAs.)

 

On the flip side, he had a really young team this year, and with Utah St. losing Wilkinson, they'll be the favorite in the WAC next year, and probably the year after that. Though if you say he should wait another 2 years til he's in demand and during that time, he missed out on 1.6M.

 

I think if I'm him, I take the job, but as an objective observer it's easy to not take ego into account, and look at being smart enough to take the big payday before something goes wrong at the mid-major job that'll bury you forever. You screw up at Georgia at his age, you could be fired go back to a mid-major for 5 years and be ready for a new Big 6 job by the age of 50.

 

ETA: Course, none of this took into account his comfort level in Reno.

[illiniguy]

Fox of Nevada to UGA.

I don't get why coaches want to take the jobs around Duke and UNC. You're never going to be able to recruit with the big boys. I get the money, but I am sure he made pretty good money at Nevada.

 

Fox was making 500K at Nevada, 1.3M at Georgia. Ideally, he'd wait out til he could grab a Pac-10 job, but I think it's tough to pass that up unless he sees another Fazekas on the horizon who could make him a hot commodity again. Guy's a solid coach, but he hasn't seemed that in demand the past couple years.(Missed the last 2 NCAAs.)

 

On the flip side, he had a really young team this year, and with Utah St. losing Wilkinson, they'll be the favorite in the WAC next year, and probably the year after that. Though if you say he should wait another 2 years til he's in demand and during that time, he missed out on 1.6M.

 

I think if I'm him, I take the job, but as an objective observer it's easy to not take ego into account, and look at being smart enough to take the big payday before something goes wrong at the mid-major job that'll bury you forever. You screw up at Georgia at his age, you could be fired go back to a mid-major for 5 years and be ready for a new Big 6 job by the age of 50.

 

ETA: Course, none of this took into account his comfort level in Reno.

Yeah, didn't he also have a really good guard before with Fazekus one year, a kid that was a pro?

I guess with the way the makret is right now it makes sense to cash in. I just think that you are going to struggle at Georgia. Besides Tubby, who has done well there that hasn't had to cheat to win?

[illiniguy]

kirk snyder

[TruffleShuffle]

Fox of Nevada to UGA.

I don't get why coaches want to take the jobs around Duke and UNC. You're never going to be able to recruit with the big boys. I get the money, but I am sure he made pretty good money at Nevada.

 

duke and unc don't recruit regionally. carolina's starting five are from california, pennsylvania, missouri, new york and maryland. duke's starting five are from oregon, pennsylvania, and illinois, plus any two of new jersey, new jersey, maryland and tennessee.

[illiniguy]

Fox of Nevada to UGA.

I don't get why coaches want to take the jobs around Duke and UNC. You're never going to be able to recruit with the big boys. I get the money, but I am sure he made pretty good money at Nevada.

 

duke and unc don't recruit regionally. carolina's starting five are from california, pennsylvania, missouri, new york and maryland. duke's starting five are from oregon, pennsylvania, and illinois, plus any two of new jersey, new jersey, maryland and tennessee.

I know, but if there is a stud in the region, they are players. Plus Georgia Tech's Paul Hewitt is an amazing recruiter. Wake Forrest gets pretty good players. Cal is now more entrenched in the area. Billy Donovan is nearby.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

kirk snyder

 

Snyder's time was all when Trent Johnson was coaching there, I'm pretty sure.

[illiniguy]

kirk snyder

 

Snyder's time was all when Trent Johnson was coaching there, I'm pretty sure.

Oh, I thought that Snyder was there for first year of Fox. I could be wrong though.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

kirk snyder

 

Snyder's time was all when Trent Johnson was coaching there, I'm pretty sure.

Oh, I thought that Snyder was there for first year of Fox. I could be wrong though.

 

After actually looking it up, Snyder's last year was Johnson's last year.

 

Also, Snyder is currently playing in China. Stay in school kids.

[illiniguy]

kirk snyder

 

Snyder's time was all when Trent Johnson was coaching there, I'm pretty sure.

Oh, I thought that Snyder was there for first year of Fox. I could be wrong though.

 

After actually looking it up, Snyder's last year was Johnson's last year.

 

Also, Snyder is currently playing in China. Stay in school kids.

Eh, he made his money. You can always go back to college. Just always have a good plan on how to save your money.

[chuckywang]

kirk snyder

 

Snyder's time was all when Trent Johnson was coaching there, I'm pretty sure.

Oh, I thought that Snyder was there for first year of Fox. I could be wrong though.

 

Yeah, so was Fazekas. I believe Fazekas's freshman year was when they made the Sweet 16 under Trent Johnson. But Mark Fox was the assistant at the time, so I guess he must have played some role in their recruitment.

[Flames24Rulz]

Looks like Xavier Henry's going to Kansas.

[snoodmonger]

Looks like Xavier Henry's going to Kansas.

 

 

I don't think that's even close to a done deal. His dad says he wants to go to KU. He also says he wants to play w his brother. But his brother doesn't want to sit out a year, which he'd have to do if he transferred. Depending on the hire, they may stay at Memphis.

[illiniguy]

Looks like Xavier Henry's going to Kansas.

 

 

I don't think that's even close to a done deal. His dad says he wants to go to KU. He also says he wants to play w his brother. But his brother doesn't want to sit out a year, which he'd have to do if he transferred. Depending on the hire, they may stay at Memphis.

Its very strange. If I was Stephenson I would commit now. Before I'm stuck at a crap school.

[snoodmonger]

Looks like Xavier Henry's going to Kansas.

 

 

I don't think that's even close to a done deal. His dad says he wants to go to KU. He also says he wants to play w his brother. But his brother doesn't want to sit out a year, which he'd have to do if he transferred. Depending on the hire, they may stay at Memphis.

Its very strange. If I was Stephenson I would commit now. Before I'm stuck at a crap school.

 

Agreed. Although I suppose Kentucky might have a slot for him now, assuming Xavier doesn't end up there.

 

And from KU's p.o.v., I'm a bird in the hand kind of guy. Gimme Lance and hope his "attitude problems" are overblown. I don't want another season with Morningstar at the 3.

[illiniguy]

Looks like Xavier Henry's going to Kansas.

 

 

I don't think that's even close to a done deal. His dad says he wants to go to KU. He also says he wants to play w his brother. But his brother doesn't want to sit out a year, which he'd have to do if he transferred. Depending on the hire, they may stay at Memphis.

Its very strange. If I was Stephenson I would commit now. Before I'm stuck at a crap school.

 

Agreed. Although I suppose Kentucky might have a slot for him now, assuming Xavier doesn't end up there.

 

And from KU's p.o.v., I'm a bird in the hand kind of guy. Gimme Lance and hope his "attitude problems" are overblown. I don't want another season with Morningstar at the 3.

Yeah I would take Lance in a heartbeat. Rush was an "attitude" problem too. That worked out ok for you.

[Sosa21MVP]

Mike Davis interviewed for the Washington State job today. Seems like an odd fit if that did happen. :scratch:

[Exile on Waveland]

Mike Davis interviewed for the Washington State job today. Seems like an odd fit if that did happen. :scratch:

 

Mike Davis is an "odd" fit for any college basketball team.

[Keener98]

Just a little heads up for Illini fans, and other fans as well, but on ESPN right now is the battle of the 2 best prep schools in the US. Illini recruit, and Peoria native, DJ Richardson is on Findly Prep, and there are numerous other D1 kids. Should be exciting.

[Keener98]

Illinois fans, we are going to love watching DJ as an Illini.

[CubInOK]

Let's count how many D-1 guys are playing in this Findlay-Oak Hill game.

 

(I'm pretty sure I'm missing a few.)

DJ Richardson - Illinois

Avery Bradley - Texas

Carlos Lopez - UNLV

Tiny Gallon - Oklahoma

 

And Lamont Jones is also getting offers from BCS schools.

[Keener98]

Let's count how many D-1 guys are playing in this Findlay-Oak Hill game.

 

(I'm pretty sure I'm missing a few.)

DJ Richardson - Illinois

Avery Bradley - Texas

Carlos Lopez - UNLV

Tiny Gallon - Oklahoma

 

And Lamont Jones is also getting offers from BCS schools.

 

 

I thought I heard them say just a min ago that 10 high D1 guys were on the court at that time.

[Butterscup1679666578]

his name is Tiny Gallon? really?