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I'm about at my wits end with these whiny babies. At one point Bradley broke down crying saying that he just wants to give his kid a better life than he had. He is a friggen baseball player making millions of dollars, I really don't want to hear how "hard" your life is. There are many families in Iowa, Illinois and Wisconsin who have just had their house float away because of floods. They have it hard, Bradley doesn't.
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Bradley is indicative of something that I've been wondering about with baseball (heck all major league sports): how strong is the stigma of seeking help through therapists and/or anti-depressents?

 

Every time you hear of a ballplayer being a headcase or lacking mental toughness, the solution is to pawn him off on another team like he has a communicible disease. I realize that everyone needs to agree to seek mental health on their own, but it sounds from all indications that seeing a therapist and being put on some drug may help an athlete like Bradley, Elijah Dukes, etc.

 

Maybe some players do seek help and you just don't hear about it. But it seems that the media and management hype these cases and players like they're a danger to the team and should be treated as such.

 

In this case, Bradley just appears to be a troubled man who could benefit from talking to someone professionally.

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Why was the announcer juxtaposing the "feel good" story of Hamilton getting his life back in order with Bradley's story, as if he's the screw up who blew a great opportunity?

 

Because Hamilton is incredibly talented and turned his life around and he would like to see Bradley do the same. Granted Hamilton's issues were substance issues and Bradley's as far as we know are not. MB was taunting fans at the ballpark the past two night in KC...pulled himself out of the game and took his time doing so with an out or two left on Tuesday night...jumped around like a crazy man after driving in runs on Tuesday. He just needs to chill out.

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Why was the announcer juxtaposing the "feel good" story of Hamilton getting his life back in order with Bradley's story, as if he's the screw up who blew a great opportunity?

 

Because Hamilton is incredibly talented and turned his life around and he would like to see Bradley do the same. Granted Hamilton's issues were substance issues and Bradley's as far as we know are not. MB was taunting fans at the ballpark the past two night in KC...pulled himself out of the game and took his time doing so with an out or two left on Tuesday night...jumped around like a crazy man after driving in runs on Tuesday. He just needs to chill out.

 

But Hamilton's issues kept him off the field for how long? Cost him how many millions of dollars? He's had half a season of success thus far? Milton Bradley may be a headcase, but he's been successful on the field, and despite his antics hasn't done anything that has kept him off the field for longer than a few game suspension here or there.

 

It's really a pretty awful comparison.

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But Hamilton's issues kept him off the field for how long? Cost him how many millions of dollars? He's had half a season of success thus far? Milton Bradley may be a headcase, but he's been successful on the field, and despite his antics hasn't done anything that has kept him off the field for longer than a few game suspension here or there.

 

It's really a pretty awful comparison.

 

Unfortunately the way Bradley handled it played right into what the announcer was saying no matter if the comparsion was fair or not.

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Why was the announcer juxtaposing the "feel good" story of Hamilton getting his life back in order with Bradley's story, as if he's the screw up who blew a great opportunity?

 

Because Hamilton is incredibly talented and turned his life around and he would like to see Bradley do the same. Granted Hamilton's issues were substance issues and Bradley's as far as we know are not. MB was taunting fans at the ballpark the past two night in KC...pulled himself out of the game and took his time doing so with an out or two left on Tuesday night...jumped around like a crazy man after driving in runs on Tuesday. He just needs to chill out.

 

Hamilton turned his life around after he screwed it up. Bradley's life isn't screwed up. He might not be the most likable guy, but he's not the idiot Hamilton was.

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Why was the announcer juxtaposing the "feel good" story of Hamilton getting his life back in order with Bradley's story, as if he's the screw up who blew a great opportunity?

 

Because Hamilton is incredibly talented and turned his life around and he would like to see Bradley do the same. Granted Hamilton's issues were substance issues and Bradley's as far as we know are not. MB was taunting fans at the ballpark the past two night in KC...pulled himself out of the game and took his time doing so with an out or two left on Tuesday night...jumped around like a crazy man after driving in runs on Tuesday. He just needs to chill out.

 

But Hamilton's issues kept him off the field for how long? Cost him how many millions of dollars? He's had half a season of success thus far? Milton Bradley may be a headcase, but he's been successful on the field, and despite his antics hasn't done anything that has kept him off the field for longer than a few game suspension here or there.

 

It's really a pretty awful comparison.

 

The only way you could really compare them is to say that one seems to have been embraced by fans with his last two teams, while the other seems to rub fans the wrong way. Other than that, their situations are completely different. One had a substance abuse issue, the other has obvious anger management issues, which could have been caused in part by a rough childhood. Not really comparable.

 

Does any of this justify Bradley going after the broadcaster? No. However, there are many ways the guy could have talked up Hamilton on the air without bringing Bradley into the discussion.

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He shouldn't have gone after the announcer but should have made a stink to the owner and the organization. Hamilton had issues with drugs Milton with anger. To compare them and say Hamilton has turned his life around and Milton hasn't in a similar situation is very ignorant on the announcers part. You don't link anyone to drugs that hasn't had drug issues. It would be like comparing T.O. to Rae Carruth because both of them seem to always be doing something the league doesn't like. Plus Bradley has been almost as good as Hamilton this season and hasn't had a dilemma yet.
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He shouldn't have gone after the announcer but should have made a stink to the owner and the organization. Hamilton had issues with drugs Milton with anger. To compare them and say Hamilton has turned his life around and Milton hasn't in a similar situation is very ignorant on the announcers part. You don't link anyone to drugs that hasn't had drug issues. It would be like comparing T.O. to Rae Carruth because both of them seem to always be doing something the league doesn't like. Plus Bradley has been almost as good as Hamilton this season and hasn't had a dilemma yet.

 

His organization or the announcers? I think he was justified in being pissed off. Being compared negatively to a crackhead can't be fun.

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Bradley was out of line for sure, but I would be pissed to if someone said I should "look up" to how a recovering drug addict is doing and use him as a "role model". The announcer was way out of line, yet I'm sure most people will not even look at that aspect, rather as another Milton episode. Don't get me wrong, I think he definitely has some issues he needs to deal with, but he has also been put in some bad situations these past two years it seems.

 

Whoever said he should speak to a therapist is right on. Unfortunately, in our society there is a stigma attached to anyone that seeks professional help and I would imagine even more so in the ultra macho sports world.

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Bradley was out of line for sure, but I would be pissed to if someone said I should "look up" to how a recovering drug addict is doing and use him as a "role model". The announcer was way out of line, yet I'm sure most people will not even look at that aspect, rather as another Milton episode. Don't get me wrong, I think he definitely has some issues he needs to deal with, but he has also been put in some bad situations these past two years it seems.

 

Whoever said he should speak to a therapist is right on. Unfortunately, in our society there is a stigma attached to anyone that seeks professional help and I would imagine even more so in the ultra macho sports world.

 

I don't think that's true. There's a stigma is certain parts of our society, sports probably being one of them. But large sections of this society don't have any such stigma.

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Bradley was out of line for sure, but I would be pissed to if someone said I should "look up" to how a recovering drug addict is doing and use him as a "role model". The announcer was way out of line, yet I'm sure most people will not even look at that aspect, rather as another Milton episode. Don't get me wrong, I think he definitely has some issues he needs to deal with, but he has also been put in some bad situations these past two years it seems.

 

Whoever said he should speak to a therapist is right on. Unfortunately, in our society there is a stigma attached to anyone that seeks professional help and I would imagine even more so in the ultra macho sports world.

 

I don't think that's true. There's a stigma is certain parts of our society, sports probably being one of them. But large sections of this society don't have any such stigma.

In my media health class last semester we spent a good portion of the class focused on mental health. Research indicates overall, individuals with mental health issues are perceived much less favorably than "normal" individuals. This applied for the US and at least a few other countries where studies had been conducted.

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Bradley was out of line for sure, but I would be pissed to if someone said I should "look up" to how a recovering drug addict is doing and use him as a "role model". The announcer was way out of line, yet I'm sure most people will not even look at that aspect, rather as another Milton episode. Don't get me wrong, I think he definitely has some issues he needs to deal with, but he has also been put in some bad situations these past two years it seems.

 

Whoever said he should speak to a therapist is right on. Unfortunately, in our society there is a stigma attached to anyone that seeks professional help and I would imagine even more so in the ultra macho sports world.

 

I don't think that's true. There's a stigma is certain parts of our society, sports probably being one of them. But large sections of this society don't have any such stigma.

In my media health class last semester we spent a good portion of the class focused on mental health. Research indicates overall, individuals with mental health issues are perceived much less favorably than "normal" individuals. This applied for the US and at least a few other countries where studies had been conducted.

 

Yeah, but we're talking about going to seek professional help. If anything, our society probably applauds somebody that admits to a problem and seeks to "solve" it.

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Bradley was out of line for sure, but I would be pissed to if someone said I should "look up" to how a recovering drug addict is doing and use him as a "role model". The announcer was way out of line, yet I'm sure most people will not even look at that aspect, rather as another Milton episode. Don't get me wrong, I think he definitely has some issues he needs to deal with, but he has also been put in some bad situations these past two years it seems.

 

Whoever said he should speak to a therapist is right on. Unfortunately, in our society there is a stigma attached to anyone that seeks professional help and I would imagine even more so in the ultra macho sports world.

 

I don't think that's true. There's a stigma is certain parts of our society, sports probably being one of them. But large sections of this society don't have any such stigma.

In my media health class last semester we spent a good portion of the class focused on mental health. Research indicates overall, individuals with mental health issues are perceived much less favorably than "normal" individuals. This applied for the US and at least a few other countries where studies had been conducted.

 

Yeah, but we're talking about going to seek professional help. If anything, our society probably applauds somebody that admits to a problem and seeks to "solve" it.

 

Yeah I guess. But the fact remains if he's diagnosed, or even perceived, as bi-polar or something of the like, then people will judge him for that. Sure people probably may say it's a good thing to get the professional help, but on the same note, he'll be judged and looked at differently. Referring to him as a hot-head athlete is much less stigmatizing than a bi-polar athlete. That was the point of my original point, I may not have made that clear though.

 

ETA: I should have said "anyone that needs to see a therapist for professional help", rather than "anyone who seeks professional help"

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Bradley was out of line for sure, but I would be pissed to if someone said I should "look up" to how a recovering drug addict is doing and use him as a "role model". The announcer was way out of line, yet I'm sure most people will not even look at that aspect, rather as another Milton episode. Don't get me wrong, I think he definitely has some issues he needs to deal with, but he has also been put in some bad situations these past two years it seems.

 

Whoever said he should speak to a therapist is right on. Unfortunately, in our society there is a stigma attached to anyone that seeks professional help and I would imagine even more so in the ultra macho sports world.

 

I don't think that's true. There's a stigma is certain parts of our society, sports probably being one of them. But large sections of this society don't have any such stigma.

In my media health class last semester we spent a good portion of the class focused on mental health. Research indicates overall, individuals with mental health issues are perceived much less favorably than "normal" individuals. This applied for the US and at least a few other countries where studies had been conducted.

 

Yeah, but we're talking about going to seek professional help. If anything, our society probably applauds somebody that admits to a problem and seeks to "solve" it.

 

I've probably had about 15 therapy sessions in the last 2 years or so. It really helped me with problems I was having and helped me to cope and deal. There are some people I haven't told because of the aforementioned stigma, but it still helped me greatly.

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Bradley was out of line for sure, but I would be pissed to if someone said I should "look up" to how a recovering drug addict is doing and use him as a "role model". The announcer was way out of line, yet I'm sure most people will not even look at that aspect, rather as another Milton episode. Don't get me wrong, I think he definitely has some issues he needs to deal with, but he has also been put in some bad situations these past two years it seems.

 

Whoever said he should speak to a therapist is right on. Unfortunately, in our society there is a stigma attached to anyone that seeks professional help and I would imagine even more so in the ultra macho sports world.

 

I don't think that's true. There's a stigma is certain parts of our society, sports probably being one of them. But large sections of this society don't have any such stigma.

In my media health class last semester we spent a good portion of the class focused on mental health. Research indicates overall, individuals with mental health issues are perceived much less favorably than "normal" individuals. This applied for the US and at least a few other countries where studies had been conducted.

 

Yeah, but we're talking about going to seek professional help. If anything, our society probably applauds somebody that admits to a problem and seeks to "solve" it.

 

I've probably had about 15 therapy sessions in the last 2 years or so. It really helped me with problems I was having and helped me to cope and deal. There are some people I haven't told because of the aforementioned stigma, but it still helped me greatly.

 

Glad it helped. I assume you are one of many Cubs fans who are (or should be) in therapy.

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Bradley was out of line for sure, but I would be pissed to if someone said I should "look up" to how a recovering drug addict is doing and use him as a "role model". The announcer was way out of line, yet I'm sure most people will not even look at that aspect, rather as another Milton episode. Don't get me wrong, I think he definitely has some issues he needs to deal with, but he has also been put in some bad situations these past two years it seems.

 

Whoever said he should speak to a therapist is right on. Unfortunately, in our society there is a stigma attached to anyone that seeks professional help and I would imagine even more so in the ultra macho sports world.

 

I don't think that's true. There's a stigma is certain parts of our society, sports probably being one of them. But large sections of this society don't have any such stigma.

In my media health class last semester we spent a good portion of the class focused on mental health. Research indicates overall, individuals with mental health issues are perceived much less favorably than "normal" individuals. This applied for the US and at least a few other countries where studies had been conducted.

 

Yeah, but we're talking about going to seek professional help. If anything, our society probably applauds somebody that admits to a problem and seeks to "solve" it.

 

But people don't seek professional help unless they feel they have something to solve. And I can't believe you don't think there's a stigma in our society associated with mental health issues regardless of whether you seek help.

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Bradley was out of line for sure, but I would be pissed to if someone said I should "look up" to how a recovering drug addict is doing and use him as a "role model". The announcer was way out of line, yet I'm sure most people will not even look at that aspect, rather as another Milton episode. Don't get me wrong, I think he definitely has some issues he needs to deal with, but he has also been put in some bad situations these past two years it seems.

 

Whoever said he should speak to a therapist is right on. Unfortunately, in our society there is a stigma attached to anyone that seeks professional help and I would imagine even more so in the ultra macho sports world.

 

I don't think that's true. There's a stigma is certain parts of our society, sports probably being one of them. But large sections of this society don't have any such stigma.

In my media health class last semester we spent a good portion of the class focused on mental health. Research indicates overall, individuals with mental health issues are perceived much less favorably than "normal" individuals. This applied for the US and at least a few other countries where studies had been conducted.

 

Yeah, but we're talking about going to seek professional help. If anything, our society probably applauds somebody that admits to a problem and seeks to "solve" it.

 

But people don't seek professional help unless they feel they have something to solve. And I can't believe you don't think there's a stigma in our society associated with mental health issues regardless of whether you seek help.

 

I didn't say I don't think there's a stigma with mental health issues. I said I don't think there's a stigma in our society for people going to seek help, which was the initial claim. Plus, our society is actually more of a bunch of different types of societies, each of whom have different views toward the issue.

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Bradley was out of line for sure, but I would be pissed to if someone said I should "look up" to how a recovering drug addict is doing and use him as a "role model". The announcer was way out of line, yet I'm sure most people will not even look at that aspect, rather as another Milton episode. Don't get me wrong, I think he definitely has some issues he needs to deal with, but he has also been put in some bad situations these past two years it seems.

 

Whoever said he should speak to a therapist is right on. Unfortunately, in our society there is a stigma attached to anyone that seeks professional help and I would imagine even more so in the ultra macho sports world.

 

I don't think that's true. There's a stigma is certain parts of our society, sports probably being one of them. But large sections of this society don't have any such stigma.

In my media health class last semester we spent a good portion of the class focused on mental health. Research indicates overall, individuals with mental health issues are perceived much less favorably than "normal" individuals. This applied for the US and at least a few other countries where studies had been conducted.

 

Yeah, but we're talking about going to seek professional help. If anything, our society probably applauds somebody that admits to a problem and seeks to "solve" it.

 

But people don't seek professional help unless they feel they have something to solve. And I can't believe you don't think there's a stigma in our society associated with mental health issues regardless of whether you seek help.

 

I didn't say I don't think there's a stigma with mental health issues. I said I don't think there's a stigma in our society for people going to seek help, which was the initial claim. Plus, our society is actually more of a bunch of different types of societies, each of whom have different views toward the issue.

 

If the issue isn't known when help is sought, I think the stigma follows. It might be less negative since help is being sought, but I think the stigma is still there. I obviously don't know your situation, but I have some experience in this stuff and you're certainly more sensitive to the stigma when it applies to you or someone close to you. I think it's pretty prevalent.

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He shouldn't have gone after the announcer but should have made a stink to the owner and the organization. Hamilton had issues with drugs Milton with anger. To compare them and say Hamilton has turned his life around and Milton hasn't in a similar situation is very ignorant on the announcers part. You don't link anyone to drugs that hasn't had drug issues. It would be like comparing T.O. to Rae Carruth because both of them seem to always be doing something the league doesn't like. Plus Bradley has been almost as good as Hamilton this season and hasn't had a dilemma yet.

oh, he's been a lot better. Bradley is unquestionably the most unheralded player in the game right now.

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