This Gallagher Kid

[Hairyducked Idiot]

There's a whole lot of people in this thread who are very quick to jump to name-calling and assuming they know other people's intentions.

[UK1679666180]

There's a whole lot of people in this thread who are very quick to jump to name-calling and assuming they know other people's intentions.

 

Call me out for it, I'll take it. I stand by what I said.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

This includes his relief work, but this year he's given up a 14.3 LD% with a .302 BABIP against, hardly indicative of him leading a charmed life. In fact, by those numbers he's been unlucky.

 

The problem is that there's not enough sample size for Gallagher as a starter to properly evaluate, which was kind of my point.

 

There's been several people saying that Gallagher's outing(s) haven't been great because he got lucky with giving up hard shots, he was even compared to Ryan F. O'Malley. That obviously hasn't been the case, and when those people claim "irrational exuberance" from those excited about a player of Gallagher's potential replacing the dead ends of Marquis/Lieber, it's easy to understand why they'd be aggravated.

[USSoccer]

There's a whole lot of people in this thread who are very quick to jump to name-calling and assuming they know other people's intentions.

 

Call me out for it, I'll take it. I stand by what I said.

 

And I stand by statement. I knew his dad posted here. I didn't know who he was. I didn't know his screen name. I was unaware when I quoted him. I said I'd apologize to him. I said I meant no disrespect to his family. I stand by my opinion of his ceiling, my opinion that it's early to get overly excited, and I stand by my stance that if this was meant as a kudos thread only, I'd have stayed out of it.

 

You want to stay pissed off over a simple misunderstanding and a difference of opinion over a player in the analytical sense, that's certainly your right. You probably know better than I do about the latter.

[USSoccer]

This includes his relief work, but this year he's given up a 14.3 LD% with a .302 BABIP against, hardly indicative of him leading a charmed life. In fact, by those numbers he's been unlucky.

 

The problem is that there's not enough sample size for Gallagher as a starter to properly evaluate, which was kind of my point.

 

There's been several people saying that Gallagher's outing(s) haven't been great because he got lucky with giving up hard shots, he was even compared to Ryan F. O'Malley. That obviously hasn't been the case, and when those people claim "irrational exuberance" from those excited about a player of Gallagher's potential replacing the dead ends of Marquis/Lieber, it's easy to understand why they'd be aggravated.

 

I don't think he's O'Malley, and I didn't say his starts were bad. I said they weren't great, and weren't bad, and basically let's wait and see before getting too worked up.

 

I seriously can't believe my point is being missed.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

This includes his relief work, but this year he's given up a 14.3 LD% with a .302 BABIP against, hardly indicative of him leading a charmed life. In fact, by those numbers he's been unlucky.

 

The problem is that there's not enough sample size for Gallagher as a starter to properly evaluate, which was kind of my point.

 

There's been several people saying that Gallagher's outing(s) haven't been great because he got lucky with giving up hard shots, he was even compared to Ryan F. O'Malley. That obviously hasn't been the case, and when those people claim "irrational exuberance" from those excited about a player of Gallagher's potential replacing the dead ends of Marquis/Lieber, it's easy to understand why they'd be aggravated.

 

I don't think he's O'Malley, and I didn't say his starts were bad. I said they weren't great, and weren't bad, and basically let's wait and see before getting too worked up.

 

I seriously can't believe my point is being missed.

 

You're the one who quoted me, I was responding to the thread in general in the first place.

[Fred Hornkohl]

This includes his relief work, but this year he's given up a 14.3 LD% with a .302 BABIP against, hardly indicative of him leading a charmed life. In fact, by those numbers he's been unlucky.

 

The problem is that there's not enough sample size for Gallagher as a starter to properly evaluate, which was kind of my point.

 

There's been several people saying that Gallagher's outing(s) haven't been great because he got lucky with giving up hard shots, he was even compared to Ryan F. O'Malley. That obviously hasn't been the case, and when those people claim "irrational exuberance" from those excited about a player of Gallagher's potential replacing the dead ends of Marquis/Lieber, it's easy to understand why they'd be aggravated.

 

You know.... Ryan O'Malley's middle name is Joseph ? :wink:

[UK1679666180]

Back to what I'd like to see the subject given the win on Friday.

 

Congrats Sean and Mr. Gallagher, you've obviously worked very hard and deserve to reap the rewards of something most dream about doing and very few get to realize.

 

May there be many wins in the present and future.

[USSoccer]

This includes his relief work, but this year he's given up a 14.3 LD% with a .302 BABIP against, hardly indicative of him leading a charmed life. In fact, by those numbers he's been unlucky.

 

The problem is that there's not enough sample size for Gallagher as a starter to properly evaluate, which was kind of my point.

 

There's been several people saying that Gallagher's outing(s) haven't been great because he got lucky with giving up hard shots, he was even compared to Ryan F. O'Malley. That obviously hasn't been the case, and when those people claim "irrational exuberance" from those excited about a player of Gallagher's potential replacing the dead ends of Marquis/Lieber, it's easy to understand why they'd be aggravated.

 

I don't think he's O'Malley, and I didn't say his starts were bad. I said they weren't great, and weren't bad, and basically let's wait and see before getting too worked up.

 

I seriously can't believe my point is being missed.

 

You're the one who quoted me, I was responding to the thread in general in the first place.

 

Gotcha. I wasn't thinking you were missing my point. I do understand what you are saying.

[Yeti]

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What I saw was a guy get jumped all over because he tried to have a normal baseball discussion and didn't know that he was talking to the father. And despite several attempts at apologies, people are still bashing him for it.

i've always found that it helps to read a thread before responding to it. had soccer actually done this, he would have picked up on the fact that cubbies36 was Sean's dad.

 

so im left wondering, did soccer actually read the thread b4 jumping in? was he purposefully being an ass? either way, he at least needs to work on his reading comprehension.

[brinoch]

All right everyone... let's settle down a bit.

 

Can we all agree on a couple of points, perhaps?

 

1. Everyone is excited about Gallagher.

2. Congratulations to Sean and his family.

3. He's better than Marquis and Leiber.

[Fred Hornkohl]

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What I saw was a guy get jumped all over because he tried to have a normal baseball discussion and didn't know that he was talking to the father. And despite several attempts at apologies, people are still bashing him for it.

i've always found that it helps to read a thread before responding to it. had soccer actually done this, he would have picked up on the fact that cubbies36 was Sean's dad.

 

so im left wondering, did soccer actually read the thread b4 jumping in? was he purposefully being an ass? either way, he at least needs to work on his reading comprehension.

 

Good grief.... are you blowing this game off, too ??

[Yeti]

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What I saw was a guy get jumped all over because he tried to have a normal baseball discussion and didn't know that he was talking to the father. And despite several attempts at apologies, people are still bashing him for it.

i've always found that it helps to read a thread before responding to it. had soccer actually done this, he would have picked up on the fact that cubbies36 was Sean's dad.

 

so im left wondering, did soccer actually read the thread b4 jumping in? was he purposefully being an ass? either way, he at least needs to work on his reading comprehension.

 

Good grief.... are you blowing this game off, too ??

looks like it, i'm pretty hung over and dont know if i could stomach watching what i expect outta marquis

[Fred Hornkohl]

 

looks like it, i'm pretty hung over and dont know if i could stomach watching what i expect outta marquis

 

You mean like his other start against Pitts ??

 

vs. Pitts            IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Marquis             6.0    6    1    1    1    7    0   102  1.50 10.50  0.00  1.17  1.50

[Hairyducked Idiot]

All right everyone... let's settle down a bit.

 

Can we all agree on a couple of points, perhaps?

 

1. Everyone is excited about Gallagher.

2. Congratulations to Sean and his family.

3. He's better than Marquis and Leiber.

 

I put him between Marquis and Lieber, but pretty close on both regards.

[Yeti]

 

looks like it, i'm pretty hung over and dont know if i could stomach watching what i expect outta marquis

 

You mean like his other start against Pitts ??

 

vs. Pitts            IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Marquis             6.0    6    1    1    1    7    0   102  1.50 10.50  0.00  1.17  1.50

maybe we shouldnt hijack this thread?

 

those numbers are obviously pretty nice, but i really dont expect him to repeat them.

 

 

 

BTW congrats Mr. Gallagher!!!!

[Athletics36]

Look folks, all I am going to say on this topic is and Sean would agree is that he didn't have his best stuff on friday. What he did do was get ahead in the count and threw 1st pitch strikes. I thought it was a great game(biased) as he didn't have his best stuff and with the wind blowing out kept the ball in the park. I thought Sean had better stuff in the Diamondback game hence the more k's and with being put in a starters role will get more comfortable. "Can't we all just get along"!!!!!! :clapping:

[Laura]

"Can't we all just get along"!!!!!! :clapping:

 

Hey, we may need to hire you as a mod!

[RynoRules]

Being Gallagher's father doesn't magically protect him from discussion, especially when he starts the dismissive namecalling.

 

It's great that Gallagher's father gives us some inside insight here and there, but are we doomed to never have a serious thread about the kid again?

 

Wow - that's an incredibly miserable post and nasty sentiment. You deserve whatever you get.

[NCCubFan]

All right everyone... let's settle down a bit.

 

Can we all agree on a couple of points, perhaps?

 

1. Everyone is excited about Gallagher.

2. Congratulations to Sean and his family.

3. He's better than Marquis and Leiber.

4. He's still a rookie with only two major league starts under his belt, so he's going to have both good and bad outings.

[twothousandfive]

Wow - that's an incredibly miserable post and nasty sentiment. You deserve whatever you get.

 

Hmmm, I'd disagree with that sentiment. This board existed before Sean Gallagher was with the Cubs, right? This is not a high school player being discussed, who may or may not choose professional sports -- it's a major league athlete. Jim Hendry has a father, doesn't he? (Though perhaps he is no longer with us, I don't know.)

 

If one of my parents chooses the internet to bask in the pleasure of my professional success, and it gets noticed by people who have an interest in or knowledge of my career, they'd have plenty of people ready to note what an ass I am. (But of course, they wouldn't, and if they didn't, it wouldn't get noticed.)

 

I disagree that for a starter in May, Gallagher is better than Leiber and Marquis. I surely hope that for starter in Jul/Aug/Sep, and pitcher on the roster in the post-season, he's a better option than both those guys. And if Marquis' dad or Leiber's dad reads this, I don't have any apologies. It's my opinion of what is best for the Cubs. .

[cubweiser03]

I really like Gallagher's stuff. His outing #s arent knock your socks off but ive really like what i seen with the fastball and especially the curve. The dude has big league stuff, might have a rough outing here or there but hes got the goods to work with.

[RynoRules]

Wow - that's an incredibly miserable post and nasty sentiment. You deserve whatever you get.

 

Hmmm, I'd disagree with that sentiment. This board existed before Sean Gallagher was with the Cubs, right? This is not a high school player being discussed, who may or may not choose professional sports -- it's a major league athlete. Jim Hendry has a father, doesn't he? (Though perhaps he is no longer with us, I don't know.)

 

If one of my parents chooses the internet to bask in the pleasure of my professional success, and it gets noticed by people who have an interest in or knowledge of my career, they'd have plenty of people ready to note what an ass I am. (But of course, they wouldn't, and if they didn't, it wouldn't get noticed.)

 

I disagree that for a starter in May, Gallagher is better than Leiber and Marquis. I surely hope that for starter in Jul/Aug/Sep, and pitcher on the roster in the post-season, he's a better option than both those guys. And if Marquis' dad or Leiber's dad reads this, I don't have any apologies. It's my opinion of what is best for the Cubs. .

 

Its real simple - if you want to s--- all over Gallagher or pick apart his performance, no one is stopping you. Just go do it in another thread and let his Dad - who has been kind enough to share inside info with us for a while now - enjoy this moment.

 

In other words, show some class....if you have any, that is.

[imb]

why would someone pick another thread when this one was specifically designed to discuss his performance?

 

gallagher hasn't been great, but he's been better than marquis. That and his potential is good enough for probably everyone, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out flaws in his game, no matter if his dad is posting in here or not. That's pretty ridiculous, I'm sure he can take it, and if not, all he has to do is go make a thread where only positive things can be said.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Wow - that's an incredibly miserable post and nasty sentiment. You deserve whatever you get.

 

Hmmm, I'd disagree with that sentiment. This board existed before Sean Gallagher was with the Cubs, right? This is not a high school player being discussed, who may or may not choose professional sports -- it's a major league athlete. Jim Hendry has a father, doesn't he? (Though perhaps he is no longer with us, I don't know.)

 

If one of my parents chooses the internet to bask in the pleasure of my professional success, and it gets noticed by people who have an interest in or knowledge of my career, they'd have plenty of people ready to note what an ass I am. (But of course, they wouldn't, and if they didn't, it wouldn't get noticed.)

 

I disagree that for a starter in May, Gallagher is better than Leiber and Marquis. I surely hope that for starter in Jul/Aug/Sep, and pitcher on the roster in the post-season, he's a better option than both those guys. And if Marquis' dad or Leiber's dad reads this, I don't have any apologies. It's my opinion of what is best for the Cubs. .

 

Its real simple - if you want to s--- all over Gallagher or pick apart his performance, no one is stopping you. Just go do it in another thread and let his Dad - who has been kind enough to share inside info with us for a while now - enjoy this moment.

 

In other words, show some class....if you have any, that is.

 

Like was mentioned, this wasn't really that type of thread. This one is though.