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maybe this is all part of an elaborate plan to murder edmonds. I bet they plan on staging an "accident" in the clubhouse where only cubs players are present.
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Edmonds' personality is one thing that seems to be overlooked. The Cubs appear to have good clubhouse chemistry right now, bringing in Edmonds might upset given if his reputation becomes truth.

 

Wait until Edmonds does a dive and lays on the ground and watch Z fume.

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All you experts on Edmonds, assuming that you have met him away from the field, what is your chief complaint? I have heard he's a little aloof, stand-offish in the clubhouse. But that's what sportswriters say. The players seem to like him. Is this the Edmonds you met? On the field he's a hot dog, showboats and makes average plays look difficult.

 

Does it count that we had dinner with him mom to celebrate her birthday when the Cards were in Chicago five years ago? No, not kidding.

 

Bottom line, you cannot rely on what the beat writers say because try as they might, they cannot separate their personal feelings from it all no more than anyone else can. Plus their time in the clubhouse is limited and the players try to watch their "Ps & Qs" more when there are eyes and ears around in the clubhouse. They base their opinions sometimes on how willing the guy is to give an interview and how that guy treats the media.

 

There was a player who played at one time for both the Sox and the Cubs. When he was with the Sox, he was grumpy and mean and would only give you the time of day if you had a TV camera. When he was with the Cubs, he was a joy to be around and accomdated any interview request. A friend of mine who is a writer told me this story...just really disliked this player as a Sox but really got to like the guy as a Cub.

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I heard Marquis on the Score and if anything, he made out Edmonds to be Party Central back in the Cardinals days.

 

Didn't know if that was much of an endorsement.

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When did Carlos become the spokesman for anything besides McDonald's? Isn't this the first season he hasn't acted like a baby? Has he matured? Looks like it to me, but he doesn't speak for the team. For someone who only goes every 5 days, he should just shut his yap and do his job. The leader of the team is Lee, no one else

 

Lee? Really?

 

The only time Lee every says anything publicly is when he whines about booing fans.

 

Right, because to be a team leader you have to air stuff out publicly.

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When did Carlos become the spokesman for anything besides McDonald's? Isn't this the first season he hasn't acted like a baby? Has he matured? Looks like it to me, but he doesn't speak for the team. For someone who only goes every 5 days, he should just shut his yap and do his job. The leader of the team is Lee, no one else

 

Lee? Really?

 

The only time Lee every says anything publicly is when he whines about booing fans.

 

Right, because to be a team leader you have to air stuff out publicly.

 

Thanks for the sarcasm. It was sooooooo helpful.

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When did Carlos become the spokesman for anything besides McDonald's? Isn't this the first season he hasn't acted like a baby? Has he matured? Looks like it to me, but he doesn't speak for the team. For someone who only goes every 5 days, he should just shut his yap and do his job. The leader of the team is Lee, no one else

 

Lee? Really?

 

The only time Lee every says anything publicly is when he whines about booing fans.

 

Right, because to be a team leader you have to air stuff out publicly.

 

Thanks for the sarcasm. It was sooooooo helpful.

I see what you did there

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When did Carlos become the spokesman for anything besides McDonald's? Isn't this the first season he hasn't acted like a baby? Has he matured? Looks like it to me, but he doesn't speak for the team. For someone who only goes every 5 days, he should just shut his yap and do his job. The leader of the team is Lee, no one else

 

Lee? Really?

 

The only time Lee every says anything publicly is when he whines about booing fans.

 

Right, because to be a team leader you have to air stuff out publicly.

 

Thanks for the sarcasm. It was sooooooo helpful.

I see what you did there

 

Not exactly my finest work.

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Z no longer has no comment on the signing of Edmonds, rather a standard professional reaction. Link's on cubs.com. I'm too lazy. Non-story all around.
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Z no longer has no comment on the signing of Edmonds, rather a standard professional reaction. Link's on cubs.com. I'm too lazy. Non-story all around.

damn kids these days...

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080515&content_id=2705570&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

 

i hate z, now, i hate him so much. it makes me sick to think that he'd welcome edmonds to the team.

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All you experts on Edmonds, assuming that you have met him away from the field, what is your chief complaint? I have heard he's a little aloof, stand-offish in the clubhouse. But that's what sportswriters say. The players seem to like him. Is this the Edmonds you met? On the field he's a hot dog, showboats and makes average plays look difficult.

 

Does it count that we had dinner with him mom to celebrate her birthday when the Cards were in Chicago five years ago? No, not kidding.

 

Bottom line, you cannot rely on what the beat writers say because try as they might, they cannot separate their personal feelings from it all no more than anyone else can. Plus their time in the clubhouse is limited and the players try to watch their "Ps & Qs" more when there are eyes and ears around in the clubhouse. They base their opinions sometimes on how willing the guy is to give an interview and how that guy treats the media.

 

There was a player who played at one time for both the Sox and the Cubs. When he was with the Sox, he was grumpy and mean and would only give you the time of day if you had a TV camera. When he was with the Cubs, he was a joy to be around and accomdated any interview request. A friend of mine who is a writer told me this story...just really disliked this player as a Sox but really got to like the guy as a Cub.

 

I'll take Scott Eyre for $1000, Alex.

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All you experts on Edmonds, assuming that you have met him away from the field, what is your chief complaint? I have heard he's a little aloof, stand-offish in the clubhouse. But that's what sportswriters say. The players seem to like him. Is this the Edmonds you met? On the field he's a hot dog, showboats and makes average plays look difficult.

 

Does it count that we had dinner with him mom to celebrate her birthday when the Cards were in Chicago five years ago? No, not kidding.

 

Bottom line, you cannot rely on what the beat writers say because try as they might, they cannot separate their personal feelings from it all no more than anyone else can. Plus their time in the clubhouse is limited and the players try to watch their "Ps & Qs" more when there are eyes and ears around in the clubhouse. They base their opinions sometimes on how willing the guy is to give an interview and how that guy treats the media.

 

There was a player who played at one time for both the Sox and the Cubs. When he was with the Sox, he was grumpy and mean and would only give you the time of day if you had a TV camera. When he was with the Cubs, he was a joy to be around and accomdated any interview request. A friend of mine who is a writer told me this story...just really disliked this player as a Sox but really got to like the guy as a Cub.

 

I'll take Scott Eyre for $1000, Alex.

 

Or was that Bob Howry?

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All you experts on Edmonds, assuming that you have met him away from the field, what is your chief complaint? I have heard he's a little aloof, stand-offish in the clubhouse. But that's what sportswriters say. The players seem to like him. Is this the Edmonds you met? On the field he's a hot dog, showboats and makes average plays look difficult.

 

Does it count that we had dinner with him mom to celebrate her birthday when the Cards were in Chicago five years ago? No, not kidding.

 

Bottom line, you cannot rely on what the beat writers say because try as they might, they cannot separate their personal feelings from it all no more than anyone else can. Plus their time in the clubhouse is limited and the players try to watch their "Ps & Qs" more when there are eyes and ears around in the clubhouse. They base their opinions sometimes on how willing the guy is to give an interview and how that guy treats the media.

 

There was a player who played at one time for both the Sox and the Cubs. When he was with the Sox, he was grumpy and mean and would only give you the time of day if you had a TV camera. When he was with the Cubs, he was a joy to be around and accomdated any interview request. A friend of mine who is a writer told me this story...just really disliked this player as a Sox but really got to like the guy as a Cub.

 

I'll take Scott Eyre for $1000, Alex.

 

Or was that Bob Howry?

 

matt karchner

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When did Carlos become the spokesman for anything besides McDonald's? Isn't this the first season he hasn't acted like a baby? Has he matured? Looks like it to me, but he doesn't speak for the team. For someone who only goes every 5 days, he should just shut his yap and do his job. The leader of the team is Lee, no one else

 

You have some kind of sick vendetta against a couple players on this team; it's pretty ridiculous.

 

First of all, never at any point did anyone, not even Z, say that Zambrano was any kind of spokesman. A reporter heard we signed Edmonds - someone who Z has had 'problems' or whatever with in the past - and asked Zambrano his thoughts about it. He had nothing to say. No one is trying to say he speaks for the team and it's not like Z is going out and trying to be a spokesman.

 

Secondly, how in the world do you know who the leaders of the team are? You just like Derrek Lee and think he's a good player - plus he seems like a nice guy, so he must be the one and only leader of this team, right? I'm not denying that Lee is any of those things, because from everything any of us can tell he is each and every one of them. But the point is, you have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. From the best that I can tell, at least from just watching the team warm up/take BP before the gates open - Z is if nothing else someone that everyone likes. When he walks up to a group they almost immediately change from just sitting there and stretching/talking to smiling and laughing. It looks, at least from an outsider looking in point of view, that he plays a leader role himself. Even if that role is only to keep everyone loose.

 

Long story short - If you want to pick a couple guys to hate, I'd advise you to pick guys that don't seem to be genuinely nice and good at baseball on top of that. You'll have better luck getting your point across.

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When did Carlos become the spokesman for anything besides McDonald's? Isn't this the first season he hasn't acted like a baby? Has he matured? Looks like it to me, but he doesn't speak for the team. For someone who only goes every 5 days, he should just shut his yap and do his job. The leader of the team is Lee, no one else

 

You have some kind of sick vendetta against a couple players on this team; it's pretty ridiculous.

 

First of all, never at any point did anyone, not even Z, say that Zambrano was any kind of spokesman. A reporter heard we signed Edmonds - someone who Z has had 'problems' or whatever with in the past - and asked Zambrano his thoughts about it. He had nothing to say. No one is trying to say he speaks for the team and it's not like Z is going out and trying to be a spokesman.

 

Secondly, how in the world do you know who the leaders of the team are? You just like Derrek Lee and think he's a good player - plus he seems like a nice guy, so he must be the one and only leader of this team, right? I'm not denying that Lee is any of those things, because from everything any of us can tell he is each and every one of them. But the point is, you have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. From the best that I can tell, at least from just watching the team warm up/take BP before the gates open - Z is if nothing else someone that everyone likes. When he walks up to a group they almost immediately change from just sitting there and stretching/talking to smiling and laughing. It looks, at least from an outsider looking in point of view, that he plays a leader role himself. Even if that role is only to keep everyone loose.

 

Long story short - If you want to pick a couple guys to hate, I'd advise you to pick guys that don't seem to be genuinely nice and good at baseball on top of that. You'll have better luck getting your point across.

 

Look at who your talking too.

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After skimming the thread, I didn't see it posted but apparently Z did shake Edmonds' hand and called himself immature for railing against Edmonds a couple years ago.

 

Edmonds called it over a long time ago.

 

Sounds like the two have buried the hatchet. With all the work I've had this week, I actually haven't seen Edmonds play yet. Should be interesting this weekend.

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