5/13 Fathers (Estes) @ Cubs (Marquis) 7:05 CSNC

[Chocolate Milk]

I hope the game is called just to save us the embarassment.

 

No, no Id rather Marquis continue to melt down so we can assure that its his last game on with this team.

I'd rather have him melt down like the wicked witch of the west: Into a steaming puddle of liquid on the mound.

[Little Slide Rooter]

If this half of the inning is finished, it can't be called until after the Cubs bat.

 

That rule only applies if the opposing team were to take the lead in the top of the inning. Since they already had it, it wouldnt matter.

[Schwarber Fan]

I think the umps are going to at least let this half inning end, and that would give the Cubs at least one more shot.

[Magnetic Curses]

I hope this is the last time we have to see Marquis pitch as a Cub.

 

it's not going to happen. marquis will finish the season as a starter.

[WilcoFan]

He had nine days off between starts, and according to many, that destroys a pitcher's rhythm. Its not his fault he was bad today, just like its never Rich Hill's fault.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Marquis is officially done.

 

Hopefully his lockers packed up.

[bring stone back]

So that is why bunting is stupid

 

No, that is why sacrifice bunts that aren't executed well are stupid.

 

no, bunting with your #2 hitter is stupid. or, having a #2 hitter who you'd rather bunt with in that situation is stupid.

 

That makes no sense. Bunting with your #2 hitter - essentially trying to put 2 runners in scoring position for your 2 best hitters is stupid knowing full well this game may be called very soon?

 

http://www.tangotiger.net/RE9902.html

 

Slightly more runs expected with runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs than runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out.

 

plus that assumes that the bunt is executed properly. there's a much better chance of a failed bunt that results in a double play, pop out or fielder's choice than there is of a throw into the stands or theriot beating the ball to first. so actually the decision to bunt is going to cost you even more than that very small amount.

 

Do those numbers factor in when you're essentially playing for 2 runs in the bottom of the 9th type situation to win (5th here because of the rain), your 2 best hitters coming up, Shawn Estes being the opposing pitcher, etc?

[Magnetic Curses]

'member when jody gerut played that one game for us?

[TruffleShuffle]

funny how when rich hill "struggled" he was lifted from the game as quickly as possible, but marquis is allowed to go out there and throw more batting practice. i guess it's worse to struggle with command but be tough to hit than to throw beach balls at the plate.

[Chocolate Milk]

He had nine days off between starts, and according to many, that destroys a pitcher's rhythm. Its not his fault he was bad today, just like its never Rich Hill's fault.

I hope this stirs up the type of argument you want.

 

Best wishes.

[VanceJergins]

He had nine days off between starts, and according to many, that destroys a pitcher's rhythm. Its not his fault he was bad today, just like its never Rich Hill's fault.

 

Yeah, because Marquis has such an awesome track record. Why just last year he was arguably the best pitcher on the team.

[Flames24Rulz]

Marquis is officially done.

 

Hopefully his lockers packed up.

 

Don't bet on it.

[erik316wttn]

Gerut grounds to DeRo.

[rawaction]

If this half of the inning is finished, it can't be called until after the Cubs bat.

 

That rule only applies if the opposing team were to take the lead in the top of the inning. Since they already had it, it wouldnt matter.

 

you're right. The result would be as of 5 though, right. meaning anything that happens this inning would not count.

[Schwarber Fan]

Last chance boys

[WilcoFan]

He had nine days off between starts, and according to many, that destroys a pitcher's rhythm. Its not his fault he was bad today, just like its never Rich Hill's fault.

I hope this stirs up the type of argument you want.

 

Best wishes.

 

I'm sorry...I'll make sure all my comments from now on follow the party line. My apologies.

[bcl412]

Please score now, it's Shawn Estes for crying out loud

[cheapseats]

So that is why bunting is stupid

 

No, that is why sacrifice bunts that aren't executed well are stupid.

 

no, bunting with your #2 hitter is stupid. or, having a #2 hitter who you'd rather bunt with in that situation is stupid.

 

That makes no sense. Bunting with your #2 hitter - essentially trying to put 2 runners in scoring position for your 2 best hitters is stupid knowing full well this game may be called very soon?

 

http://www.tangotiger.net/RE9902.html

 

Slightly more runs expected with runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs than runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out.

 

plus that assumes that the bunt is executed properly. there's a much better chance of a failed bunt that results in a double play, pop out or fielder's choice than there is of a throw into the stands or theriot beating the ball to first. so actually the decision to bunt is going to cost you even more than that very small amount.

 

Do those numbers factor in when you're essentially playing for 2 runs in the bottom of the 9th type situation to win (5th here because of the rain), your 2 best hitters coming up, Shawn Estes being the opposing pitcher, etc?

 

All situations in every game played between 1999 and 2002.

 

You could look up particular situations at Baseball Reference if you like.

[VanceJergins]

He had nine days off between starts, and according to many, that destroys a pitcher's rhythm. Its not his fault he was bad today, just like its never Rich Hill's fault.

I hope this stirs up the type of argument you want.

 

Best wishes.

 

I'm sorry...I'll make sure all my comments from now on follow the party line. My apologies.

 

You're so smart and know so much about baseball...its awesome.

[Rob]

So that is why bunting is stupid

 

No, that is why sacrifice bunts that aren't executed well are stupid.

 

no, bunting with your #2 hitter is stupid. or, having a #2 hitter who you'd rather bunt with in that situation is stupid.

 

That makes no sense. Bunting with your #2 hitter - essentially trying to put 2 runners in scoring position for your 2 best hitters is stupid knowing full well this game may be called very soon?

 

http://www.tangotiger.net/RE9902.html

 

Slightly more runs expected with runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs than runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out.

 

plus that assumes that the bunt is executed properly. there's a much better chance of a failed bunt that results in a double play, pop out or fielder's choice than there is of a throw into the stands or theriot beating the ball to first. so actually the decision to bunt is going to cost you even more than that very small amount.

 

It's not that hard people. The only positive from a sac bunt when everyone knows a sac bunt is coming and the defense doesn't botch it is moving runners over and getting an out. There are several positives if you actually try to get a hit, which is what hitters are used to doing in every single AB.

 

FWIW, I have no problem with the bunts Fukudome lays down. But those are bunting for a hit... not letting everybody in the ballpark know that you want to give them a free out before the pitch is even thrown.

[rawaction]

So that is why bunting is stupid

 

No, that is why sacrifice bunts that aren't executed well are stupid.

 

no, bunting with your #2 hitter is stupid. or, having a #2 hitter who you'd rather bunt with in that situation is stupid.

 

That makes no sense. Bunting with your #2 hitter - essentially trying to put 2 runners in scoring position for your 2 best hitters is stupid knowing full well this game may be called very soon?

 

http://www.tangotiger.net/RE9902.html

 

Slightly more runs expected with runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs than runners at 2nd and 3rd with 1 out.

 

plus that assumes that the bunt is executed properly. there's a much better chance of a failed bunt that results in a double play, pop out or fielder's choice than there is of a throw into the stands or theriot beating the ball to first. so actually the decision to bunt is going to cost you even more than that very small amount.

 

Do those numbers factor in when you're essentially playing for 2 runs in the bottom of the 9th type situation to win (5th here because of the rain), your 2 best hitters coming up, Shawn Estes being the opposing pitcher, etc?

 

But it's not the final inning. It was the 5th and it didn't get called. Can't play for what might happen.

[weatherdood]

Last chance boys

 

It is NOT the last chance, folks! There will be a delay...but this game will NOT be called!

[Little Slide Rooter]

Even if we lose a rain shortened game, something good should come out of it. Hopefully, Lou has finally realised that his team will be much better off without that piece of trash. You cant really send him to the pen, as theres no reason to give him Fox' spot over Cotts or Ascenio.

[Careless]

I hope this is the last time we have to see Marquis pitch as a Cub.

 

it's not going to happen. marquis will finish the season as a starter.

no way they pull Marquis after this. He'll have to continue to suck for another month at the very least, unless someone really wants to trade for him or he gets much worse than he currently is

[WilcoFan]

He had nine days off between starts, and according to many, that destroys a pitcher's rhythm. Its not his fault he was bad today, just like its never Rich Hill's fault.

I hope this stirs up the type of argument you want.

 

Best wishes.

 

I'm sorry...I'll make sure all my comments from now on follow the party line. My apologies.

 

You're so smart and know so much about baseball...its awesome.

 

 

I'm assuming you don't have a point or you would have come up with something more creative.