At what point should we begin to doubt the Tigers?

[inari]

If it's going to take 95 wins to win the Central, as many think it will, they are going to have an absurdly tough time getting there.

[Backtobanks]

If it's going to take 95 wins to win the Central, as many think it will, they are going to have an absurdly tough time getting there.

 

Maybe Hendry ought to get in discussions with DD about a trade involving Wertz and Renteria.

[PrimeTime]

Wuertz,Theriot or Cedeno and 1 more for Renteria...Our top 5 would scare any pitcher

 

Soriano

Renteria

Lee

Rameriz

Fukudome

DeRosa

Soto

Pie

[UMFan83]

I think you are seeing a good team being exposed in the first week of the season. Simply put, if they don't hit, they don't have enough pitching to get it done. All I know is that Dombrowski and Illich have invested a lot into this season, and I doubt they'll stand pat as is. But what assets do they have to make moves? Their farm system pretty much doesn't exist unless they want to trade Porcello, and despite Illich's seeminly endless pockets, you gotta figure they don't want to add on much more payroll, so a salary dump may be out of the question.

 

I think eventually when the offense starts hitting they will find a way to get rid of Inge for either a setup guy or a starter in that order. Other than that, maybe Thames or Jacque Jones is expendable with value.

 

Either way, its going to be an interesting season in Motown

[UMFan83]

Wuertz,Theriot or Cedeno and 1 more for Renteria...Our top 5 would scare any pitcher

 

Soriano

Renteria

Lee

Rameriz

Fukudome

DeRosa

Soto

Pie

 

Might as well throw Fontenot in there because I doubt he wants to be on a team with Edgar.

 

The good news is, I believe Henrdy has a pretty decent history with Dombrowski. A couple trades I remember recently are the Jones trade, the Monroe trade, the Neifi trade, the Farnsworth trade. So trading with the Tigers wouldn't be a problem if it came to that.

[BigbadB]

When did Porcello sign? They can't trade him until a year after his official signing date. And based on his performance so far, I don't think I'd even consider trading him.

[Jehrico]

If Dempster has another solid outing, maybe we can package him and Theriot/Cedeno for Renteria instead? Or maybe sub Marshall or Gallagher instead of Dempster? They'd get someone who could start or fill any spot in the pen, which would be a boon to their pitching staff.

Of course, being a glass is half full kind of guy that you need to be as a Cubs fan, I'm waiting for Marquis to post a decent first couple of months like he's known for, then see him get sent off for Renteria before he pulls his second half implosion.

[UMFan83]

When did Porcello sign? They can't trade him until a year after his official signing date. And based on his performance so far, I don't think I'd even consider trading him.

 

He signed on August 14th, and your right even if they could, I highly doubt they'd trade him unless it was for a superstar of Cabrera's caliber.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Probably around the same point we begin to think the White Sox are for real.

[erik316wttn]

I think you are seeing a good team being exposed in the first week of the season. Simply put, if they don't hit, they don't have enough pitching to get it done. All I know is that Dombrowski and Illich have invested a lot into this season, and I doubt they'll stand pat as is. But what assets do they have to make moves? Their farm system pretty much doesn't exist unless they want to trade Porcello, and despite Illich's seeminly endless pockets, you gotta figure they don't want to add on much more payroll, so a salary dump may be out of the question.

 

I think eventually when the offense starts hitting they will find a way to get rid of Inge for either a setup guy or a starter in that order. Other than that, maybe Thames or Jacque Jones is expendable with value.

 

Either way, its going to be an interesting season in Motown

 

They can afford to trade a bat for some pitching.

[OleMissCub]

Just an FYI,

 

the 1988 Orioles have the worst recorded start to a season when they went 0-21.

[SouthSideRyan]

Probably around the same point we begin to think the White Sox are for real.

 

Never?

[CubmanPi]

Just an FYI,

 

the 1988 Orioles have the worst recorded start to a season when they went 0-21.

I thought the '97 Cubs were closer to record-setting than that. How disappointing.

[seanimal]

If it's going to take 95 wins to win the Central, as many think it will, they are going to have an absurdly tough time getting there.

 

well shoot i guess they're basically eliminated, what with 7 whole losses. might as well give up now.

[anabiono]

If it's going to take 95 wins to win the Central, as many think it will, they are going to have an absurdly tough time getting there.

 

well shoot i guess they're basically eliminated, what with 7 whole losses. might as well give up now.

 

no, they are not screwed now...but...and it is a big but...if they should drop say 5 or 6 more games then you have yourself a pretty damn big hole...and it will take some serious streaks to climb out of it

[javy knows my name]

At what point should we begin to doubt the Tigers?

 

When they play like this when they are healthy

[JimSorgi]

We should've doubted them before the season. Their rotation isn't very good. I still think their offense is good enough to get them into the playoffs, but they aren't as great a team as some people thought.

[Dr. Cub]

As far as I'm concerned (as a season ticket holder for the Tigers), when people stop asking to buy my extras and games i'm not going to; then it's time to start doubting. 8-[

[Soul]

If it's going to take 95 wins to win the Central, as many think it will, they are going to have an absurdly tough time getting there.

 

well shoot i guess they're basically eliminated, what with 7 whole losses. might as well give up now.

 

In the history of the major leagues, no team that has started 0-7 has ever made the playoffs. They're going to have a rough time overriding all that history. Not saying it can't be done, but they've put themselves in a very bad position now.

[Jon]

If it's going to take 95 wins to win the Central, as many think it will, they are going to have an absurdly tough time getting there.

 

well shoot i guess they're basically eliminated, what with 7 whole losses. might as well give up now.

 

In the history of the major leagues, no team that has started 0-7 has ever made the playoffs. They're going to have a rough time overriding all that history. Not saying it can't be done, but they've put themselves in a very bad position now.

They're 5 games back with 155 to go. They're a long, long way off from having to worry.

[CuseCubFan69]

If it's going to take 95 wins to win the Central, as many think it will, they are going to have an absurdly tough time getting there.

 

well shoot i guess they're basically eliminated, what with 7 whole losses. might as well give up now.

 

In the history of the major leagues, no team that has started 0-7 has ever made the playoffs. They're going to have a rough time overriding all that history. Not saying it can't be done, but they've put themselves in a very bad position now.

 

With the wild card and smaller divisions I think going 0-7 isn't as bad as it used to be. It ain't good though.

[Soul]

True to both.

 

However, the reason why a team that goes 0-7 usually misses the playoffs isn't because they're only 5 games back. It's because opening the season with 7 straight losses tends to be an indicator that they just aren't a real good baseball team.

 

We'll see. I wouldn't be shocked if they turn it around. I never thought they'd do this to start the season. I have a friend at work who is a huge Tigers fan and he's really freaking out. And I just got back from Detroit this weekend -- that town is losing it right now.

[CuseCubFan69]

True to both.

 

However, the reason why a team that goes 0-7 usually misses the playoffs isn't because they're only 5 games back. It's because opening the season with 7 straight losses tends to be an indicator that they just aren't a real good baseball team.

 

We'll see. I wouldn't be shocked if they turn it around. I never thought they'd do this to start the season. I have a friend at work who is a huge Tigers fan and he's really freaking out. And I just got back from Detroit this weekend -- that town is losing it right now.

 

I think the key is how they react to it. If they're trying to win 2 games while playing one they are going to have a tough year but if they just relax and play the way they are capable, they'll be ok. This is why it's nice to have some balance offense/defensepitching, when one struggles, often the other will keep you in the game. If their O struggles, they have some problems.

[OleMissCub]

I wonder at what point do they start the "Jim Leyland heart attack countdown".

[David]

True to both.

 

However, the reason why a team that goes 0-7 usually misses the playoffs isn't because they're only 5 games back. It's because opening the season with 7 straight losses tends to be an indicator that they just aren't a real good baseball team.

 

We'll see. I wouldn't be shocked if they turn it around. I never thought they'd do this to start the season. I have a friend at work who is a huge Tigers fan and he's really freaking out. And I just got back from Detroit this weekend -- that town is losing it right now.

 

Exactly, which is why the Tigers probably shouldn't be too worried about that statistic.