De-Row at 2B...

[chasinf5s]

Before last year, DeRo was a career utility player. Now, he is a utility player that has a heart condition. Look, DeRo is a great guy, a great teammate & a pretty good player that brings a lot of position flexibility, leadership & obp/offense to this club. On other flipside, Soriano appears to be the biggest bust & contract albatross since post-steroid Sammy. We now are finding out why one Jim Hendry was obsessing after Brian Roberts. We do not have a leadoff hitter, a natural 2B. DeRo would be perfect in a first off the bench utility role & a guy that could start 2-3 times/wk to keep everyone fresh w/ all of the Wrigley day games. I feel that Jim had a window of opportunity early in the offseason to get it done...didn't bid aggressively until later & then the O's had a change of heart. We have many holes on this team but this one will haunt us all year...IMO.

 

im glad you feel all these things but you really look dumb saying that Soriano appears to be the biggest bust after 7, seven, yes 7 games in the 2nd year of a contract.

 

esp after he batted 300, hit 33 hrs, 40+ doubles ect in his first year

Edited April 7, 2008 by chasinf5s

[javy knows my name]

Before last year, DeRo was a career utility player. Now, he is a utility player that has a heart condition. Look, DeRo is a great guy, a great teammate & a pretty good player that brings a lot of position flexibility, leadership & obp/offense to this club. On other flipside, Soriano appears to be the biggest bust & contract albatross since post-steroid Sammy. We now are finding out why one Jim Hendry was obsessing after Brian Roberts. We do not have a leadoff hitter, a natural 2B. DeRo would be perfect in a first off the bench utility role & a guy that could start 2-3 times/wk to keep everyone fresh w/ all of the Wrigley day games. I feel that Jim had a window of opportunity early in the offseason to get it done...didn't bid aggressively until later & then the O's had a change of heart. We have many holes on this team but this one will haunt us all year...IMO.

I love just about every one of your posts equally.

[TruffleShuffle]

I have been trying to figure out what Derosa brings... no range, can't field unless hit right to him, can't lay down a bunt, can't hit and run, I call him a douple play just waiting to happen.

 

another post that is either sarcasm or completely off base, i can't tell which.

[chasinf5s]

I have been trying to figure out what Derosa brings... no range, can't field unless hit right to him, can't lay down a bunt, can't hit and run, I call him a douple play just waiting to happen.

 

another post that is either sarcasm or completely off base, i can't tell which.

 

or the person thinks they know baseball because they jumped on the cubs bandwagon at the end of last year and seeing he hit into that dp in game 3 then he must always hit into double plays

 

didnt Pujouls lead the league in hitting into double plays last year, im sure thats a perfectly good reason to not want him on a team according to some people

[WilcoFan]

Before last year, DeRo was a career utility player. Now, he is a utility player that has a heart condition. Look, DeRo is a great guy, a great teammate & a pretty good player that brings a lot of position flexibility, leadership & obp/offense to this club. On other flipside, Soriano appears to be the biggest bust & contract albatross since post-steroid Sammy. We now are finding out why one Jim Hendry was obsessing after Brian Roberts. We do not have a leadoff hitter, a natural 2B. DeRo would be perfect in a first off the bench utility role & a guy that could start 2-3 times/wk to keep everyone fresh w/ all of the Wrigley day games. I feel that Jim had a window of opportunity early in the offseason to get it done...didn't bid aggressively until later & then the O's had a change of heart. We have many holes on this team but this one will haunt us all year...IMO.

 

Man, I thought this broken record had finally stopped. Good God.

 

 

 

BTW-DeRosa had the heart condition since he was 16. He actually no longer has it anymore-the surgery took care of it.

[BigbadB]

Before last year, DeRo was a career utility player. Now, he is a utility player that has a heart condition. Look, DeRo is a great guy, a great teammate & a pretty good player that brings a lot of position flexibility, leadership & obp/offense to this club. On other flipside, Soriano appears to be the biggest bust & contract albatross since post-steroid Sammy. We now are finding out why one Jim Hendry was obsessing after Brian Roberts. We do not have a leadoff hitter, a natural 2B. DeRo would be perfect in a first off the bench utility role & a guy that could start 2-3 times/wk to keep everyone fresh w/ all of the Wrigley day games. I feel that Jim had a window of opportunity early in the offseason to get it done...didn't bid aggressively until later & then the O's had a change of heart. We have many holes on this team but this one will haunt us all year...IMO.

 

If Soriano were to continue to struggle, the Cubs have the ideal guy to put there. His name is Kosuke Fukudome.

 

But, while Ryan Theriot was hitting 2nd for the Cubs, the Cubs averaged 3.5 runs a game while the team went 1-3. With Theriot out of the 2 hole, the Cubs are averaging 7 runs a game and are 3-0.

 

Just put decent hitters 1/2 along with the usual suspects throughout the rest of the order and this team will win plenty of games.

[Dallas Green]

Before last year, DeRo was a career utility player. Now, he is a utility player that has a heart condition. Look, DeRo is a great guy, a great teammate & a pretty good player that brings a lot of position flexibility, leadership & obp/offense to this club. On other flipside, Soriano appears to be the biggest bust & contract albatross since post-steroid Sammy. We now are finding out why one Jim Hendry was obsessing after Brian Roberts. We do not have a leadoff hitter, a natural 2B. DeRo would be perfect in a first off the bench utility role & a guy that could start 2-3 times/wk to keep everyone fresh w/ all of the Wrigley day games. I feel that Jim had a window of opportunity early in the offseason to get it done...didn't bid aggressively until later & then the O's had a change of heart. We have many holes on this team but this one will haunt us all year...IMO.

 

If Soriano were to continue to struggle, the Cubs have the ideal guy to put there. His name is Kosuke Fukudome.

 

 

 

But, while Ryan Theriot was hitting 2nd for the Cubs, the Cubs averaged 3.5 runs a game while the team went 1-3. With Theriot out of the 2 hole, the Cubs are averaging 7 runs a game and are 3-0.

 

Just put decent hitters 1/2 along with the usual suspects throughout the rest of the order and this team will win plenty of games.

 

I agree with almost everything above. Soriano is not a bust he just is what he is. The Cubs view De Rosa as a Casey Blake type. They would look vastly different with Roberts and with Balt at 5-1 I don't see that happening anytime soon. Fukudome would be a great lead-off hitter but he does provide depth in the line-up at 5.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, him and Aramis and Fukudome should all be benched for their errors/sloppy play. That'll show 'em.

 

I don't usually do this, but:

 

:roll:

 

1) I never said he should be benched;

 

2) Comparing him to Aramis and Fukudome is stupid.

 

Roll your eyes all you want. I didn't directly compare him to either player...simply pointing out that "something might need to be done" (and what that possibly means besides playing him less, I have no idea) about a productive and generally reliable player having a couple of unfortunately costly errors this early in the season is pretty much an exercise in futility.

[biittner77]

little known fact: the late 90s yankees instituted a strict "lashes for errors" policy that torre credited for their improved team defense

 

Come on. Everyone knows that Jeter can just will the Yankees to not make errors.

[Soul]

Yeah, him and Aramis and Fukudome should all be benched for their errors/sloppy play. That'll show 'em.

 

I don't usually do this, but:

 

:roll:

 

1) I never said he should be benched;

 

2) Comparing him to Aramis and Fukudome is stupid.

 

Roll your eyes all you want. I didn't directly compare him to either player...simply pointing out that "something might need to be done" (and what that possibly means besides playing him less, I have no idea) about a productive and generally reliable player having a couple of unfortunately costly errors this early in the season is pretty much an exercise in futility.

 

A swift kick in the butt, or the ever-present threat of a "stern talking to" tends to increase production 65% over the short-term.

 

Outside of that, taking away a player's favorite cereal might work, but only if his favorite isn't crappy in the first place.

 

You really need to get with the program when it comes to player discipline.

[RynoRules]

Yeah, him and Aramis and Fukudome should all be benched for their errors/sloppy play. That'll show 'em.

 

I don't usually do this, but:

 

:roll:

 

1) I never said he should be benched;

 

2) Comparing him to Aramis and Fukudome is stupid.

 

Roll your eyes all you want. I didn't directly compare him to either player...simply pointing out that "something might need to be done" (and what that possibly means besides playing him less, I have no idea) about a productive and generally reliable player having a couple of unfortunately costly errors this early in the season is pretty much an exercise in futility.

 

Then it looks like you missed the point of my post.

 

If he becomes a butcher at 2B what do we do? I dunno, I am just asking.

 

And do me a favor, if you don't agree with something I post or have a contrary opinion, just respond as such. Save your sacrcasm for someone else.

[balls amp strikes]

He was probably spending most of March talking about whether he would need to uproot his family, for God's sake.

 

I doubt it. I mean, how long could those conversations have gone on?

 

Mark: I wonder if I'll need to uproot you guys.

Wife: Maybe. If you get traded somewhere, I guess so.

Mark: Yeah. You're right about that.

Daughter: Daddy, are we going to have to move?

Mark: I don't know. I'm wondering about that.

Wife: Yes, me too.

Mark: Yup. I just don't know what will happen.

Wife: Do you think this will affect your defense?

Mark: If I have to keep wondering if I'll get traded, it will.

Daughter: Are you getting traded, Dad?

Mark: I just don't know. I keep thinking about it.

Wife: Don't forget to eat today, honey.

Mark: Like I have time for that.

 

did everyone miss the greatness of this post? the last line by derosa is amazing.

[TruffleShuffle]

Yeah, him and Aramis and Fukudome should all be benched for their errors/sloppy play. That'll show 'em.

 

I don't usually do this, but:

 

:roll:

 

1) I never said he should be benched;

 

2) Comparing him to Aramis and Fukudome is stupid.

 

Roll your eyes all you want. I didn't directly compare him to either player...simply pointing out that "something might need to be done" (and what that possibly means besides playing him less, I have no idea) about a productive and generally reliable player having a couple of unfortunately costly errors this early in the season is pretty much an exercise in futility.

 

Then it looks like you missed the point of my post.

 

If he becomes a butcher at 2B what do we do? I dunno, I am just asking.

 

right, but what are the chances that he pulls a chuck knoblauch and completely forgets how to play defense. he was average to slightly above average defensively last year, and he's projected to become very slightly below average over the next two years. if we're going to ask what happens if he becomes a butcher - say, starts playing like ray durham defensively - then we also might as well ask what happens if ARam starts hitting like eric chavez and derrek lee turns into lyle overbay. those things are about as likely to happen as derosa turning into a butcher.

[17 Seconds]

Brian Roberts was also dealing with all of the same business, and he has a 1.131 OPS. I think I've stumbled onto the new moneyball.

 

All you do is put trade rumors up around your roster in the offseason and just sit back and enjoy the career high OPS

 

I know it wasn't the point of your post, but Roberts wasn't dealing with the same stuff. Roberts would be starting at second base on a team no matter what.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2238/jumpmattqf0.jpg

[Soul]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2238/jumpmattqf0.jpg

 

Haha, cool.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, him and Aramis and Fukudome should all be benched for their errors/sloppy play. That'll show 'em.

 

I don't usually do this, but:

 

:roll:

 

1) I never said he should be benched;

 

2) Comparing him to Aramis and Fukudome is stupid.

 

Roll your eyes all you want. I didn't directly compare him to either player...simply pointing out that "something might need to be done" (and what that possibly means besides playing him less, I have no idea) about a productive and generally reliable player having a couple of unfortunately costly errors this early in the season is pretty much an exercise in futility.

 

Then it looks like you missed the point of my post.

 

If he becomes a butcher at 2B what do we do? I dunno, I am just asking.

 

And do me a favor, if you don't agree with something I post or have a contrary opinion, just respond as such. Save your sacrcasm for someone else.

 

Why can't I be sarcastic? It's not like it's a complex question. If he becomes a defensive wreck, the Cubs have to replace him. If it's just straight answers, the thread was over before it started.

[Tyrant]

He was probably spending most of March talking about whether he would need to uproot his family, for God's sake.

 

I doubt it. I mean, how long could those conversations have gone on?

 

Mark: I wonder if I'll need to uproot you guys.

Wife: Maybe. If you get traded somewhere, I guess so.

Mark: Yeah. You're right about that.

Daughter: Daddy, are we going to have to move?

Mark: I don't know. I'm wondering about that.

Wife: Yes, me too.

Mark: Yup. I just don't know what will happen.

Wife: Do you think this will affect your defense?

Mark: If I have to keep wondering if I'll get traded, it will.

Daughter: Are you getting traded, Dad?

Mark: I just don't know. I keep thinking about it.

Wife: Don't forget to eat today, honey.

Mark: Like I have time for that.

 

did everyone miss the greatness of this post? the last line by derosa is amazing.

 

Well, I'm glad SOMEONE appreciated my efforts.

[imb]

don't you dare ever speak to me without clearing it with me how i desire to be spoken to, first. i hired you and i can fire you just as easy

[mul21]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2238/jumpmattqf0.jpg

 

Brilliant!!! That really made me laugh pretty hard.

[Soul]

He was probably spending most of March talking about whether he would need to uproot his family, for God's sake.

 

I doubt it. I mean, how long could those conversations have gone on?

 

Mark: I wonder if I'll need to uproot you guys.

Wife: Maybe. If you get traded somewhere, I guess so.

Mark: Yeah. You're right about that.

Daughter: Daddy, are we going to have to move?

Mark: I don't know. I'm wondering about that.

Wife: Yes, me too.

Mark: Yup. I just don't know what will happen.

Wife: Do you think this will affect your defense?

Mark: If I have to keep wondering if I'll get traded, it will.

Daughter: Are you getting traded, Dad?

Mark: I just don't know. I keep thinking about it.

Wife: Don't forget to eat today, honey.

Mark: Like I have time for that.

 

did everyone miss the greatness of this post? the last line by derosa is amazing.

 

Well, I'm glad SOMEONE appreciated my efforts.

 

I was speechless after receiving such an illustrative smack down. :thumbsup:

[ctcf]

Before last year, DeRo was a career utility player. Now, he is a utility player that has a heart condition. Look, DeRo is a great guy, a great teammate & a pretty good player that brings a lot of position flexibility, leadership & obp/offense to this club. On other flipside, Soriano appears to be the biggest bust & contract albatross since post-steroid Sammy. We now are finding out why one Jim Hendry was obsessing after Brian Roberts. We do not have a leadoff hitter, a natural 2B. DeRo would be perfect in a first off the bench utility role & a guy that could start 2-3 times/wk to keep everyone fresh w/ all of the Wrigley day games. I feel that Jim had a window of opportunity early in the offseason to get it done...didn't bid aggressively until later & then the O's had a change of heart. We have many holes on this team but this one will haunt us all year...IMO.

 

Sometimes I wonder if he's actually just parodying himself at this point.

[abuck1220]

Yeah, him and Aramis and Fukudome should all be benched for their errors/sloppy play. That'll show 'em.

 

I don't usually do this, but:

 

:roll:

 

1) I never said he should be benched;

 

2) Comparing him to Aramis and Fukudome is stupid.

 

Roll your eyes all you want. I didn't directly compare him to either player...simply pointing out that "something might need to be done" (and what that possibly means besides playing him less, I have no idea) about a productive and generally reliable player having a couple of unfortunately costly errors this early in the season is pretty much an exercise in futility.

 

Then it looks like you missed the point of my post.

 

If he becomes a butcher at 2B what do we do? I dunno, I am just asking.

 

 

i guess you bench him. which is what everyone said at first, but you didn't like that. i don't know what you want.

 

more importantly, what do we do if rich hill loses his arm in a lawnmower accident? i don't know...but it's a question that needs to be asked.

[wrigley23]

im glad you feel all these things but you really look dumb saying that Soriano appears to be the biggest bust after 7, seven, yes 7 games in the 2nd year of a contract.

 

esp after he batted 300, hit 33 hrs, 40+ doubles ect in his first year

 

I look dumb? That's your opinion. I think you look dumb that you don't think he is. He didn't earn the money last year either. 130 strikeouts & 20 steals w/ a low OBP for a leadoff hitter making $18 mill/yr doesn't do it for me. Sorry. I doubt very many cub fans have much confidence at all that he will be a high level player on the back end of that contract let alone now.

[rocket]

lol cubs fans