NSBB Mock NFL Draft: Vance (Cowboys)

[dew1679666265]

Detroit Lions.

The Lions have a ton of holes and they could go LT/RT, RB or DE here.

 

don't forget WR!!!

 

Why don't you quit making fun of Matt Millen and make your pick, eh? :wink:

[TruffleShuffle]

Well, the Eagles have tried very hard in the offseason to get a #1 receiver. They almost had Moss, offered Lito Sheppard and a pick for Larry Fitzgerald, and also have looked into Roy Williams. A lot of people are thinking we'll go with a WR in the first round because of this, but there really aren't any #1 receivers in this draft unless there is a pretty big surprise. Our OT's are aging, but with Long, Clady, Otah (thank God - I probably would've had to pick him for realistic-ness and then watch him bust) and Williams off the board, any OT here would be a reach.

 

So, it looks like either DE or safety to me. The next best DE looks like Philip Merling from Clemson, but I don't think he provides the pass rush that we need. Future Hall of Famer Brian Dawkins is getting old, and Sean Considine is average at best. We tried to sign Gerbil Wilson away from the Giants, but he decided to go play for (lose with) the Oakland Raiders. No hard feelings, as he'll be badly overpaid. Anyway, Kenny Phillips is easily the best safety available this year, and would've gone in the top 10 if he'd had a strong junior year. But he, much like the rest of "the U," was a little disappointing in 2007. Still, I am gonna go with him, and assume that it was just a down year for everyone, and his physical ability and intensity will make him Miami's next great safety.

 

 

1 Miami Dolphins - Warpticon - Jake Long, OT, Michigan

2 St. Louis Rams - reggiemiller rules - Chris Long, DE, Virginia

3 Atlanta Falcons - The Golden Thunder - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU

4 Oakland Raiders - soccer10k - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St

5 Kansas City Chiefs - PingHitter - Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC

6 New York Jets - BHogg - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas

7 New England Patriots (From 49ers) - GoCubsGo! - Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State

8 Baltimore Ravens - b_wiggy_66 - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College

9 Cincinnati Bengals - Rocket - Keith Rivers, LB, USC (via proxy)

10 New Orleans Saints - OleMissCub - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St

11 Buffalo Bills - PingHitter - Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy

12 Denver Broncos - MPC - Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh

13 Carolina Panthers - Andy - Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois

14 Chicago Bears - CaliforniaRaisin et al - Brandon Albert, OL, Virginia

15 Detroit Lions - Cubweiser - Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida

16 Arizona Cardinals - Flames24Rulz Michael Jenkins, CB, USF

17 Minnesota Vikings - PriorPower - Calais Campbell, DE, Miami

18 Houston Texans - Rawaction - Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt

19 Philadelphia Eagles - TruffleShuffle - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami (FL)

20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - reds44 - On the clock!

21 Washington Redskins - Handlebar McSkullet

22 Dallas Cowboys (From Browns) - vance_the_cubs_fan

23 Pittsburgh Steelers - AI

24 Tennessee Titans - dew

25 Seattle Seahawks - mhuber92211

26 Jacksonville Jaguars - Cro Magnon

27 San Diego Chargers - CaliforniaRaisin

28 Dallas Cowboys - vance_the_cubs_fan

29 San Francisco 49ers (From Colts) - TruffleShuffle

30 Green Bay Packers - Flames24Rulz

31 New York Giants - jersey cubs fan

[reds44]

With the 20th pick in the NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select, Desean Jackson, WR, Cal

 

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[Guest]

1 Miami Dolphins - Warpticon - Jake Long, OT, Michigan

2 St. Louis Rams - reggiemiller rules - Chris Long, DE, Virginia

3 Atlanta Falcons - The Golden Thunder - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU

4 Oakland Raiders - soccer10k - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St

5 Kansas City Chiefs - PingHitter - Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC

6 New York Jets - BHogg - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas

7 New England Patriots (From 49ers) - GoCubsGo! - Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State

8 Baltimore Ravens - b_wiggy_66 - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College

9 Cincinnati Bengals - Rocket - Keith Rivers, LB, USC (via proxy)

10 New Orleans Saints - OleMissCub - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St

11 Buffalo Bills - PingHitter - Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy

12 Denver Broncos - MPC - Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh

13 Carolina Panthers - Andy - Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois

14 Chicago Bears - CaliforniaRaisin et al - Brandon Albert, OL, Virginia

15 Detroit Lions - Cubweiser - Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida

16 Arizona Cardinals - Flames24Rulz Michael Jenkins, CB, USF

17 Minnesota Vikings - PriorPower - Calais Campbell, DE, Miami

18 Houston Texans - Rawaction - Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt

19 Philadelphia Eagles - TruffleShuffle - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami (FL)

20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - reds44 - Rawaction Jackson, WR, UC Berkeley

21 Washington Redskins - Handlebar McSkullet - Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson

22 Dallas Cowboys (From Browns) - vance_the_cubs_fan - on the clock!

23 Pittsburgh Steelers - AI

24 Tennessee Titans - dew

25 Seattle Seahawks - mhuber92211

26 Jacksonville Jaguars - Cro Magnon

27 San Diego Chargers - CaliforniaRaisin

28 Dallas Cowboys - vance_the_cubs_fan

29 San Francisco 49ers (From Colts) - TruffleShuffle

30 Green Bay Packers - Flames24Rulz

31 New York Giants - jersey cubs fan

[Handlebar McSkullet]

The redsnyders pick de phillip merling

[Guest]

1 Miami Dolphins - Warpticon - Jake Long, OT, Michigan

2 St. Louis Rams - reggiemiller rules - Chris Long, DE, Virginia

3 Atlanta Falcons - The Golden Thunder - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU

4 Oakland Raiders - soccer10k - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St

5 Kansas City Chiefs - PingHitter - Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC

6 New York Jets - BHogg - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas

7 New England Patriots (From 49ers) - GoCubsGo! - Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State

8 Baltimore Ravens - b_wiggy_66 - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College

9 Cincinnati Bengals - Rocket - Keith Rivers, LB, USC (via proxy)

10 New Orleans Saints - OleMissCub - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St

11 Buffalo Bills - PingHitter - Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy

12 Denver Broncos - MPC - Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh

13 Carolina Panthers - Andy - Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois

14 Chicago Bears - CaliforniaRaisin et al - Brandon Albert, OL, Virginia

15 Detroit Lions - Cubweiser - Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida

16 Arizona Cardinals - Flames24Rulz Michael Jenkins, CB, USF

17 Minnesota Vikings - PriorPower - Calais Campbell, DE, Miami

18 Houston Texans - Rawaction - Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt

19 Philadelphia Eagles - TruffleShuffle - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami (FL)

20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - reds44 - Rawaction Jackson, WR, UC Berkeley

21 Washington Redskins - Handlebar McSkullet - Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson

22 Dallas Cowboys (From Browns) - vance_the_cubs_fan - on the clock!

23 Pittsburgh Steelers - AI

24 Tennessee Titans - dew

25 Seattle Seahawks - mhuber92211

26 Jacksonville Jaguars - Cro Magnon

27 San Diego Chargers - CaliforniaRaisin

28 Dallas Cowboys - vance_the_cubs_fan

29 San Francisco 49ers (From Colts) - TruffleShuffle

30 Green Bay Packers - Flames24Rulz

31 New York Giants - jersey cubs fan

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I had to confer in the war room. With the 22nd pick of the draft, the Cowboys select WR Devin Thomas from Michigan State. The Cowboys are in need of a reciever and playmaker as TO is getting up there in age, Terry Glenn is likely done, and Patrick Crayton is more of a third receiver. Thomas adds the size and speed needed to be an elite receiver in the NFL.

[AI]

This pick is not even a little bit difficult. The Steelers are in desperate need of help on the OL. I would have preferred B. Albert of C. Williams, but such is life. Thus, with the 23rd selection in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers select...

 

Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College

 

He could come in and start at RT immediately.

[Post Count Padder]

Even though I'm not a part of dew's war room, as a Titan fan myself I think their biggest need is undoubtedly WR.

 

 

Also, is anyone else noticing how much fast this year's mock draft is going compared to last year?

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Even though I'm not a part of dew's war room, as a Titan fan myself I think their biggest need is undoubtedly WR.

 

That, or QB.

 

I"m not happy about the Albert pick, btw.

[Vanilla Ice]

Am I allowed to trade some of my million picks to move back into the first round?

[dew1679666265]

Even though I'm not a part of dew's war room, as a Titan fan myself I think their biggest need is undoubtedly WR.

 

 

Also, is anyone else noticing how much fast this year's mock draft is going compared to last year?

 

I agree to an extent PriorPower. WR is definitely a top need, but DE is just about as close. Vanden Bosch is fine on one side, but I'd like to see somebody to split time with Kearse - and to keep him healthy. Seeing, though, as the best DEs in the draft are now gone, WR it is.

 

Limas Sweed is a favorite to be drafted, as is Malcolm Kelly from Oklahoma. With the 24th pick in the NFL draft, though, the Titans select:

 

Wide receiver, from Indiana University, James Hardy.

 

Hardy is the biggest receiver in the draft - something Vince needs badly, a big target to throw to - and runs similarly well to Sweed. Sweed has the Texas roots that would give him a leg up in the Titans eyes (familiarity with Vince), but I see Hardy as having more raw potential than Sweed and being as solid a playmaker.

 

mhuber92211 and the Seahawks are now on the clock.

 

EDIT: And PriorPower, you're more than welcome into the Titan war room, my friend. I've got a good idea of the Titans' needs, but will take any advice I can get.

Edited April 14, 2008 by dew

[dew1679666265]

Am I allowed to trade some of my million picks to move back into the first round?

 

We did not last year because it would be very confusing and time-consuming.

 

Thus, I'm assuming we're not this year.

[rawaction]

Hardy is interesting there. His size is great, but it's not so much more than Sweed or Kelly to pick him over either of them, IMO. Sweed is faster. Kelly is as fast. Both have better hands and are better route runners. Hardy is probably the least polished of the 3 and I don't think he necessarily has any more upside than them.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Malcom Kelly isn't a first round pick.

 

1) He has major knee issues, and has been already medically removed from some draft boards becaues of this.

 

2) He had a HORRIBLE pro day

 

3) He acted like a douce after his pro day performance, further turning off people.

[Guest]

I will PM mhuber.

 

1 Miami Dolphins - Warpticon - Jake Long, OT, Michigan

2 St. Louis Rams - reggiemiller rules - Chris Long, DE, Virginia

3 Atlanta Falcons - The Golden Thunder - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU

4 Oakland Raiders - soccer10k - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St

5 Kansas City Chiefs - PingHitter - Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC

6 New York Jets - BHogg - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas

7 New England Patriots (From 49ers) - GoCubsGo! - Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State

8 Baltimore Ravens - b_wiggy_66 - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College

9 Cincinnati Bengals - Rocket - Keith Rivers, LB, USC (via proxy)

10 New Orleans Saints - OleMissCub - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St

11 Buffalo Bills - PingHitter - Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy

12 Denver Broncos - MPC - Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh

13 Carolina Panthers - Andy - Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois

14 Chicago Bears - CaliforniaRaisin et al - Brandon Albert, OL, Virginia

15 Detroit Lions - Cubweiser - Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida

16 Arizona Cardinals - Flames24Rulz Michael Jenkins, CB, USF

17 Minnesota Vikings - PriorPower - Calais Campbell, DE, Miami

18 Houston Texans - Rawaction - Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt

19 Philadelphia Eagles - TruffleShuffle - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami (FL)

20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - reds44 - Rawaction Jackson, WR, UC Berkeley

21 Washington Redskins - Handlebar McSkullet - Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson

22 Dallas Cowboys (From Browns) - vance_the_cubs_fan - Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan St

23 Pittsburgh Steelers - AI - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College

24 Tennessee Titans - dew - James Hardy, WR, Indiana

25 Seattle Seahawks - mhuber92211 - on the clock!

26 Jacksonville Jaguars - Cro Magnon

27 San Diego Chargers - CaliforniaRaisin

28 Dallas Cowboys - vance_the_cubs_fan

29 San Francisco 49ers (From Colts) - TruffleShuffle

30 Green Bay Packers - Flames24Rulz

31 New York Giants - jersey cubs fan

[imb]

Malcom Kelly isn't a first round pick.

 

1) He has major knee issues, and has been already medically removed from some draft boards becaues of this.

 

2) He had a HORRIBLE pro day

 

3) He acted like a douce after his pro day performance, further turning off people.

 

His knee is fine, it's his hammy that has teams bothered. His pro day was fine, aside from relatively slow 40 times. The "blowup" afterwards was overblown, I saw the entire interview and all he did was say that the medical staff misdiagnosed him (they did).

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

His vertical #'s where pretty bad too..especially for a possesion type receiver.

[imb]

His vertical #'s where pretty bad too..especially for a possesion type receiver.

 

I think his vert was 32 inches, which isn't brutal or anything. He won't be a first rounder but he'll be good value in the second round.

[sneakypower]

so does this pick slide to me when the time runs out, like the Vikings did with the Kevin Williams draft?

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so does this pick slide to me when the time runs out, like the Vikings did with the Kevin Williams draft?

 

Nah. The group just makes a consensus choice and then it's on to the next pick.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Has anyone pm'ed mhuber?

[dew1679666265]

Has anyone pm'ed mhuber?

 

I did and Raisin said he was going to.

 

Hopefully he takes his pick.

[dew1679666265]

Hardy is interesting there. His size is great, but it's not so much more than Sweed or Kelly to pick him over either of them, IMO. Sweed is faster. Kelly is as fast. Both have better hands and are better route runners. Hardy is probably the least polished of the 3 and I don't think he necessarily has any more upside than them.

 

I like Hardy's natural abilities more than Sweed's. Along with being 2 inches (roughly) taller, he's got a slightly better vertical than Sweed. Also, Hardy's 40 time was actually slightly better than Sweed's.

 

Also - and I don't think this can be overlooked - he was basically Indiana's only offensive threat (save QB Kellen Lewis), therefore he's shown he can be the only weapon and still perform at a very high level.

 

This situation is far more comparable to what he'll face in Tennessee than anything Sweed or Kelly have dealt with.

[Guest]

Has anyone pm'ed mhuber?

 

I did and Raisin said he was going to.

 

Hopefully he takes his pick.

 

Yeah, I PMed him right after my post.