There's got to be more action

[Backtobanks]

It is pretty obvious there have to be more moves coming. The Cubs are still loaded (or bloated) with trade bait. Looking at the roster, I see

Marshall, Gallagher, Marquis, Dempster, Cedeno, Fuld, Murton, and Patterson as possible spare parts on this team. Obviously, players like Fuld, Patterson, and Gallagher could still be sent down to AAA, but that still leaves 5 other players that are expected to be on a (not necessarily our) major league roster. The latest rumor has Hendry looking at Marlon Byrd which would make Murton very expendable. Most of us downgrade our players and prospects, but I still think players like Murton, Cedeno, Marshall, Gallagher, and Patterson should have some value for a team looking for young players. Contrary to popular belief around here, there are worse pitchers than Dempster and Marquis on some pitching staffs. I don't know who or when, but there has to be a deal or two out there that Hendry can make to improve the team.

[anabiono]

yeah, but the question remains...

 

will he get it done?

[Post Count Padder]

There has to be another deal coming.

 

I hope.

[Mizzou]

What's the 40 man roster look like?

[Keener98]

What's the 40 man roster look like?

 

 

Probably just a white piece of paper with 40 names on it :D

[YearofDaCubs]

What are you guys talking about? We just signed Chad Fox! :)

[nilodnayr]

What's the 40 man roster look like?

 

Cubs.com has us at 38.

[Clem Fandango]

You want more action?

 

But seriously, ever since the Fukudome signing the offseason has sucked, and this is boring

[BigbadB]

I don't necessarily think anyone has to be moved at this point. Marlon Byrd making Murton expendable would be a downgrade to our #4 outfield position. Adding Byrd as a 5th outfielder would be an upgrade.

 

I don't believe in making moves just to make moves to satisfy the fans who are bored with the offseason and just want to see something happen.

 

The moves being proposed (Robers for Marshall, Gallagher and Cedeno) aren't moves that I'd be willing to make. A move like that would be lateral at best and could really damage the health of the organization at SS and in the rotation. I only support moves that improve the team or are complete non factors like a fringe prospect for a fringe prospect.

[Yestheydo]

I keep wondering why it doesn't appear Dempster is being shopped as a closer.

[Backtobanks]

I keep wondering why it doesn't appear Dempster is being shopped as a closer.

 

Maybe there's more of a market for starters.

[anabiono]

how come we have only been linked to friggin lieber this offseason...?

 

is jim playing secret agent man?

[Abe Frohman]

How about moving Soriano to 2B and Murton to LF?

[Cubzfan64]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm significantly UNDERwhelmed by the Cubs offseason so far. This team was barely good enough to take first place last year in a very weak division and found itself completely overmatched in the playoffs.

 

I don't see where we've really done anything to improve the ballclub enough to move us up to the next level of competition.

 

It's pretty darn discouraging.

[Vanilla Ice]

How about moving Soriano to 2B and Murton to LF?

 

I know it will never happen, but Murton in left, Soriano at second and DeRosa at short, would dramatically improve our offense, and wouldn't downgrade our defense too much IMO. Imagine replacing Theriot's bat with Murton's

[mdwilla]

I don't necessarily think anyone has to be moved at this point. Marlon Byrd making Murton expendable would be a downgrade to our #4 outfield position. Adding Byrd as a 5th outfielder would be an upgrade.

 

I don't believe in making moves just to make moves to satisfy the fans who are bored with the offseason and just want to see something happen.

 

The moves being proposed (Robers for Marshall, Gallagher and Cedeno) aren't moves that I'd be willing to make. A move like that would be lateral at best and could really damage the health of the organization at SS and in the rotation. I only support moves that improve the team or are complete non factors like a fringe prospect for a fringe prospect.

 

Health of the organiztion at SS? Ronny Cedeno was a non-prospect in the minds of many on this board for a long time, for a fun read search the thread to see when Hendry first added him to the 40 man. The Cubs don't have to make any moves for the sake of making a move but if they want to compete for a world series there still coming up short. At this point neither Gallegher or Marshall figure into the Cubs rotation plans. Adding a fine defensive/offensive player like Roberts , plus helping bulletproof you bench be having a guy like Mark Derosa in Tony Phillips role can only help. If you think Hendrys overpaying for Roberts and should get a shortstop instead thats fine , but calling it a lateral move at best is just a joke.

Edited January 14, 2008 by mdwilla

[Abe Frohman]

I know it will never happen, but Murton in left, Soriano at second and DeRosa at short, would dramatically improve our offense, and wouldn't downgrade our defense too much IMO. Imagine replacing Theriot's bat with Murton's

 

Murton would probably be a very good #2 hitter.

[Roast]

I know it will never happen, but Murton in left, Soriano at second and DeRosa at short, would dramatically improve our offense, and wouldn't downgrade our defense too much IMO. Imagine replacing Theriot's bat with Murton's

 

Murton would probably be a very good #2 hitter.

He can't realistically be any worse than Theriot.

[anabiono]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm significantly UNDERwhelmed by the Cubs offseason so far. This team was barely good enough to take first place last year in a very weak division and found itself completely overmatched in the playoffs.

 

I don't see where we've really done anything to improve the ballclub enough to move us up to the next level of competition.

 

It's pretty darn discouraging.

 

QFT (except for the overmatched part)

 

underwhelmed indeed!

[biittner77]

I doubt we'll see anything significant until either The Twins trade Santana or Spring Training. Even though there are only a couple of teams interested other teams probably want to see what happens there and who is now available.

 

Historically, I can't remember the Cubs making very many trades between New Years and ST. Some FA signings maybe but the trade talk starts to heat up again in ST when teams have a better idea of what they have and what they still need.

[Soul]

I think it very possible that we've seen the end of major moves this offseason. I don't think Hendry "must" do anything at this point. In his mind he's coming off a division winning season and he's just added a major piece this offseason. I don't see why he would necessarily be feeling a ton of pressure to make another huge move.

[anabiono]

I think it very possible that we've seen the end of major moves this offseason. I don't think Hendry "must" do anything at this point. In his mind he's coming off a division winning season and he's just added a major piece this offseason. I don't see why he would necessarily be feeling a ton of pressure to make another huge move.

 

thank you for summing up why the cubs need a new GM!

 

\:D/

[soapy]

How about moving Soriano to 2B and Murton to LF?

 

I know it will never happen, but Murton in left, Soriano at second and DeRosa at short, would dramatically improve our offense, and wouldn't downgrade our defense too much IMO. Imagine replacing Theriot's bat with Murton's

If I was going to move Soriano, I'd probably try him in CF again. Murton/Soriano/Fukudome across the OF would be nice, offensively. Or put Fukudome in CF with Soriano or Murton in RF, whatever.

 

This makes a lot more sense if you can trade Pie to upgrade at SS or SP. If not, Pie will be in CF I'm sure.

[jersey cubs fan]

Health of the organiztion at SS? Ronny Cedeno was a non-prospect in the minds of many on this board for a long time, for a fun read search the thread to see when Hendry first added him to the 40 man.

 

What in the world does the general board opinion of rostering Ronny Cedeno 4 years ago have to do with today?

 

Moving Cedeno would leave the Cubs with just Ryan Theriot as a servicable SS. Nobody else in the system appears to have any chance of ever doing anything in the majors. And Theriot himself isn't really much of a SS, more of a 2B who can move over and not be completely overwhelmed. It's a risky situation to be in.

[KingCubsFan]

How about moving Soriano to 2B and Murton to LF?

 

I know it will never happen, but Murton in left, Soriano at second and DeRosa at short, would dramatically improve our offense, and wouldn't downgrade our defense too much IMO. Imagine replacing Theriot's bat with Murton's

That would give us two severely below-average defensive players, and they would be playing key positions. Plus, Murton is weak defensively and he would be replacing one of the best LF's in the game. It would definitely improve the offense, but I'm not sure if I'd do it at the beginning of the year. Defense was the Cubs' strength last year, and I'd rather first see if our offense will improve in other ways (Lee's power returning, better early numbers from Soriano, Fukodome) before we try that.