ESPN1000 Mark Teahen for Matt Murton?

[mdwilla]

wouldn't mind him as a fourth outfielder.

[justlikethecubs]

If we could pull this off without getting rid of Murton it would work pretty good I think. Some sort of a platoon between the 2 would probably put of good numbers.

[Backtobanks]

I wonder if Hendry might want to expand the basic trade for Teahan and go for Greinke, who he was interested in last year. Also, it's being reported that Dejesus or Gathwright might be available because of the Guillen signing. One OF and Greinke might be interesting.

 

According to the KC Star's Bob Dutton, the Jose Guillen signing puts the Royals in a better position to trade David DeJesus or Joey Gathright. The Rangers and Braves are on DeJesus' trail. Dutton believes the Braves offered up lefty Chuck James for him. It seems a little light, as I'm not sure James could be effective in the American League. Royals GM Dayton Moore, of course, came from the Atlanta organization.

[nilodnayr]

There are a lot of teams out there looking for new 3bs. We've already heard rumors about the O's, reds, and buds. Brewers,dodgers rangers, cards have been mentioned too.

[Elrhino]

Check out the career stats:

 

Teahan averages 14 HRs, 78 RBI, .274, .340, .429, .769

Murton averages 16 HRs, 55 RBI, .296, .365, .455, .820

Perhaps one of you stat geeks out there can look at those numbers and explain how Teahan has "more power", "a higher ceiling", etc. When I look at the numbers it looks like Murton is significantly better in most offensive areas. To me the only advantages Teahan has are his defense and the fact he's left-handed.

 

To be a bit fair, Teahen played against tougher pitching in the AL, especially considering how utterly putrid the pitching was in the NL Central was this year. Also, it was kind of an outlier year for Comerica this year, but since it's inception it's always been one of the ten toughest parks for hitters.

[jersey cubs fan]

Check out the career stats:

 

Teahan averages 14 HRs, 78 RBI, .274, .340, .429, .769

Murton averages 16 HRs, 55 RBI, .296, .365, .455, .820

Perhaps one of you stat geeks out there can look at those numbers and explain how Teahan has "more power", "a higher ceiling", etc. When I look at the numbers it looks like Murton is significantly better in most offensive areas. To me the only advantages Teahan has are his defense and the fact he's left-handed.

 

To be a bit fair, Teahen played against tougher pitching in the AL, especially considering how utterly putrid the pitching was in the NL Central was this year. Also, it was kind of an outlier year for Comerica this year, but since it's inception it's always been one of the ten toughest parks for hitters.

 

Isn't his home park a hitters park?

[BigbadB]

Check out the career stats:

 

Teahan averages 14 HRs, 78 RBI, .274, .340, .429, .769

Murton averages 16 HRs, 55 RBI, .296, .365, .455, .820

Perhaps one of you stat geeks out there can look at those numbers and explain how Teahan has "more power", "a higher ceiling", etc. When I look at the numbers it looks like Murton is significantly better in most offensive areas. To me the only advantages Teahan has are his defense and the fact he's left-handed.

 

To be a bit fair, Teahen played against tougher pitching in the AL, especially considering how utterly putrid the pitching was in the NL Central was this year. Also, it was kind of an outlier year for Comerica this year, but since it's inception it's always been one of the ten toughest parks for hitters.

 

Comerica is Detroit. I don't like the comparison because Murton's numbers are probably a bit inflated due to situational hitting (platoon) rather than playing everyday. They are essentially the same type of hitter, with Teahen probably possessing more power.

[fromthestretch]

Personally, I think Murton would be better for the Cubs considering the Cubs had problems with LHP.

 

2007 Cubs:

 

vs. RHP: .274/.335/.419 = .754 OPS

vs. LHP: .263/.325/.431 = .756 OPS

 

If they had problems with left-handers then you can just as easily say they had problems with right-handers, as well.

 

 

Whaaaaat? I guess I never did see stats to back it up, but it seemed obvious that they struggled more against lefties. That's a little bit mind-blowing.

 

I think it helps to look at how they ranked compared to the rest of the league. They were below average against LHP, and slightly above against RHP. Plus, the OBP difference is significant, on a team wide scale, more important than the SLG difference.

 

Yes, the OBP against lefties is lower than you'd like to see. While they could certainly stand to improve against southpaws, my point is that they really just need to improve overall offensively.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yes, the OBP against lefties is lower than you'd like to see. While they could certainly stand to improve against southpaws, my point is that they really just need to improve overall offensively.

 

I would agree with your point. But my point would be that focusing on one specific "side" is even dumber when you consider it's the side they may even need a little less.

[Guest]

Wasn't Teahen hurt last year, which might explain his steep dropoff in power between 2006 and 2007?

 

 

Was he playing hurt? Because he played in 144 games with 544AB's.

Teahen had shoulder surgery at the end of 2006 and was never really at full strength in 2007.

[CuseCubFan69]

Wasn't Teahen hurt last year, which might explain his steep dropoff in power between 2006 and 2007?

 

 

Was he playing hurt? Because he played in 144 games with 544AB's.

Teahen had shoulder surgery at the end of 2006 and was never really at full strength in 2007.

 

Do the reports say he will be at 100% for 2008?

[Guest]

Check out the career stats:

 

Teahan averages 14 HRs, 78 RBI, .274, .340, .429, .769

Murton averages 16 HRs, 55 RBI, .296, .365, .455, .820

Perhaps one of you stat geeks out there can look at those numbers and explain how Teahan has "more power", "a higher ceiling", etc. When I look at the numbers it looks like Murton is significantly better in most offensive areas. To me the only advantages Teahan has are his defense and the fact he's left-handed.

 

To be a bit fair, Teahen played against tougher pitching in the AL, especially considering how utterly putrid the pitching was in the NL Central was this year. Also, it was kind of an outlier year for Comerica this year, but since it's inception it's always been one of the ten toughest parks for hitters.

 

Isn't his home park a hitters park?

Kauffman used to be an incredible hitters park. However, they moved the fences back a couple years ago and I believe it has been playing as a pitcher's park since then.

[Guest]

Wasn't Teahen hurt last year, which might explain his steep dropoff in power between 2006 and 2007?

 

 

Was he playing hurt? Because he played in 144 games with 544AB's.

Teahen had shoulder surgery at the end of 2006 and was never really at full strength in 2007.

 

Do the reports say he will be at 100% for 2008?

Yeah, it's a typical 1 year recovery time to be back at full strength kind of deal. I would have like to have seen more power in the second half to back up this analysis, though.

[Bruce Miles]

The Royals aren't doing this trade.

[USSoccer]

The Royals aren't doing this trade.

 

Can't you bring us good news for once? :wink:

[CuseCubFan69]

The Royals aren't doing this trade.

 

Party pooper!

 

Who do you see them getting Bruce?

[YearofDaCubs]

The Royals aren't doing this trade.

Too bad. Then again most of the rumors that sound too good to be true usually are in the Cubs case.

[Schwarber Fan]

Any good juicy (close to being done) rumors, Bruce?? :)

[cheapseats]

The Royals aren't doing this trade.

 

Killjoy.

 

Are you in Nashville, Bruce?

 

If so, you should try Prince's Hot Chicken Shack if you ever get a chance to leave the hotel.

[Bruce Miles]

Any good juicy (close to being done) rumors, Bruce?? :)

 

Nothing imminent. Yes, I am in Nashville. The Cubs never were considering Dempster to Toronto. That was a media creation. They say they've not talked to the Reds about Hamilton. They're not trading Rich Hill or Felix Pie.

[Post Count Padder]

Can anyone fill me in, been at class. Is this deal going down or is Bruce right in that it's not?

[Butterscup1679666578]

Any good juicy (close to being done) rumors, Bruce?? :)

 

Nothing imminent. Yes, I am in Nashville. The Cubs never were considering Dempster to Toronto. That was a media creation. They say they've not talked to the Reds about Hamilton. They're not trading Rich Hill or Felix Pie.

 

Any new info on Fukudome, or just the same old stuff?

[JeffH]

Can anyone fill me in, been at class. Is this deal going down or is Bruce right in that it's not?

 

"The Bruce" is always right.

[USSoccer]

Any good juicy (close to being done) rumors, Bruce?? :)

 

Nothing imminent. Yes, I am in Nashville. The Cubs never were considering Dempster to Toronto. That was a media creation. They say they've not talked to the Reds about Hamilton. They're not trading Rich Hill or Felix Pie.

 

So, what are they doing?

[Lefty]

Bruce, if you are still here...

 

In a very general sense, do you have any advanced notice about a deal, or do you find out through official channels? I do not want to jeopardize your access, obviously. I am just curious.