College Football - Week of 11/17

[XZero771679666304]

I'd like to just reiterate that LSU is very, very beatable.

 

This is true, but who has the speed to match up with them? The Big XII's overrated trio = not so much. Ohio State? Not after last season's NC. WVU? They could put points on the board against LSU, not so sure they can stop them. Honestly, there are pretty much 2 universities that have enough speed to match up against LSU: USC and Florida. Those schools have the best chance to knock off LSU. Unfortunately, neither of the teams have a realistic scenario of facing them. Of the teams with a legitimate chance of facing LSU, WVU probably matches up the best, though I think LSU would score pretty easily on them. LSU isn't invincible, but I don't think the 1 loss teams match up that well against them. Their only loss in the best conference was a flukish triple overtime loss on the road to Kentucky.

 

You're right, but I'd sure like to see the WVU-LSU matchup. That would be an entertaining game, and all the Mountaineers would have to do is keep the game close enough for Les Miles to do something stupid.

 

At the very least it would be fun to watch, with both teams at or above 35 points.

[Mephistopheles]

LSU could face USC in a bowl if LSU loses to either Arkansas or Georgia

 

Not a likely scenario.

 

1. LSU has to lose to one of two teams (teams that UF is better than so they can beat teams that good)

2. LSU then has to get an at large BCS berth, which is likely, unless they lose to Arkansas and beat UGA

3. USC has to get a BCS at large berth, but not win the Pac 10. If they win the Pac 10...

4. OSU has to get in the NC

5. USC and LSU gets BCS berths and then with conference tie-ins they have to hope that WVU gets into the NC versus a Big 12 team...and the other big 12 teams dont get berths

6. Fiesta Bowl picks both LSU and USC.

 

Plus a bunch of other things involving Hawaii and such.

 

Possible? Yes...likely? No.

[Derwood]

LSU could face USC in a bowl if LSU loses to either Arkansas or Georgia

 

Not a likely scenario.

 

1. LSU has to lose to one of two teams (teams that UF is better than so they can beat teams that good)

2. LSU then has to get an at large BCS berth, which is likely, unless they lose to Arkansas and beat UGA

3. USC has to get a BCS at large berth, but not win the Pac 10. If they win the Pac 10...

4. OSU has to get in the NC

5. USC and LSU gets BCS berths and then with conference tie-ins they have to hope that WVU gets into the NC versus a Big 12 team...and the other big 12 teams dont get berths

6. Fiesta Bowl picks both LSU and USC.

 

Plus a bunch of other things involving Hawaii and such.

 

Possible? Yes...likely? No.

 

now way they play in a non-BCS game?

[Mephistopheles]

I'd like to just reiterate that LSU is very, very beatable.

 

This is true, but who has the speed to match up with them? The Big XII's overrated trio = not so much. Ohio State? Not after last season's NC. WVU? They could put points on the board against LSU, not so sure they can stop them. Honestly, there are pretty much 2 universities that have enough speed to match up against LSU: USC and Florida. Those schools have the best chance to knock off LSU. Unfortunately, neither of the teams have a realistic scenario of facing them. Of the teams with a legitimate chance of facing LSU, WVU probably matches up the best, though I think LSU would score pretty easily on them. LSU isn't invincible, but I don't think the 1 loss teams match up that well against them. Their only loss in the best conference was a flukish triple overtime loss on the road to Kentucky.

 

You're right, but I'd sure like to see the WVU-LSU matchup. That would be an entertaining game, and all the Mountaineers would have to do is keep the game close enough for Les Miles to do something stupid.

 

At the very least it would be fun to watch, with both teams at or above 35 points.

 

Two teams have scored 30 on LSU this season. WVU and UF's offense are fairly similar with UF's being more dynamic over the course of the season. Florida out up 24, albeit with a complacent offense the second half. My pick: 38-27 if that match up is there. If they face Kansas: 42-21. If they face Mizzouri: 42-24. If they face OSU: 35-7.

 

OSU looked like crap today.

[Mephistopheles]

LSU could face USC in a bowl if LSU loses to either Arkansas or Georgia

 

Not a likely scenario.

 

1. LSU has to lose to one of two teams (teams that UF is better than so they can beat teams that good)

2. LSU then has to get an at large BCS berth, which is likely, unless they lose to Arkansas and beat UGA

3. USC has to get a BCS at large berth, but not win the Pac 10. If they win the Pac 10...

4. OSU has to get in the NC

5. USC and LSU gets BCS berths and then with conference tie-ins they have to hope that WVU gets into the NC versus a Big 12 team...and the other big 12 teams dont get berths

6. Fiesta Bowl picks both LSU and USC.

 

Plus a bunch of other things involving Hawaii and such.

 

Possible? Yes...likely? No.

 

now way they play in a non-BCS game?

 

I don't believe the SEC has a tie in with a bowl that also has a tie in with the Pac 10. They have them with the BE, BXII, BT and ACC.

[Keener98]

I'd like to just reiterate that LSU is very, very beatable.

 

This is true, but who has the speed to match up with them? The Big XII's overrated trio = not so much. Ohio State? Not after last season's NC. WVU? They could put points on the board against LSU, not so sure they can stop them. Honestly, there are pretty much 2 universities that have enough speed to match up against LSU: USC and Florida. Those schools have the best chance to knock off LSU. Unfortunately, neither of the teams have a realistic scenario of facing them. Of the teams with a legitimate chance of facing LSU, WVU probably matches up the best, though I think LSU would score pretty easily on them. LSU isn't invincible, but I don't think the 1 loss teams match up that well against them. Their only loss in the best conference was a flukish triple overtime loss on the road to Kentucky.

 

 

Id like to know what last years Ohio States team has to do with this years?

[Guest]

Good. Now we need OU to win out and win the Big XII.

 

Coming from you? HA

 

Why is Keener allowed to insult me personally in every thread and never get reprimanded? I'd be banned by now if I said anything remotely close to what he says.

 

Lol I have never said anything close to the stuff you spew out. Give me a break.

 

Can you guys stop this stuff?

[Mephistopheles]

I'd like to just reiterate that LSU is very, very beatable.

 

This is true, but who has the speed to match up with them? The Big XII's overrated trio = not so much. Ohio State? Not after last season's NC. WVU? They could put points on the board against LSU, not so sure they can stop them. Honestly, there are pretty much 2 universities that have enough speed to match up against LSU: USC and Florida. Those schools have the best chance to knock off LSU. Unfortunately, neither of the teams have a realistic scenario of facing them. Of the teams with a legitimate chance of facing LSU, WVU probably matches up the best, though I think LSU would score pretty easily on them. LSU isn't invincible, but I don't think the 1 loss teams match up that well against them. Their only loss in the best conference was a flukish triple overtime loss on the road to Kentucky.

 

 

Id like to know what last years Ohio States team has to do with this years?

 

Um last years' was significantly better and got drilled by the SEC champion who had tremendous speed on defense and offense just like this years likely SEC champion?

[Keener98]

I'd like to just reiterate that LSU is very, very beatable.

 

This is true, but who has the speed to match up with them? The Big XII's overrated trio = not so much. Ohio State? Not after last season's NC. WVU? They could put points on the board against LSU, not so sure they can stop them. Honestly, there are pretty much 2 universities that have enough speed to match up against LSU: USC and Florida. Those schools have the best chance to knock off LSU. Unfortunately, neither of the teams have a realistic scenario of facing them. Of the teams with a legitimate chance of facing LSU, WVU probably matches up the best, though I think LSU would score pretty easily on them. LSU isn't invincible, but I don't think the 1 loss teams match up that well against them. Their only loss in the best conference was a flukish triple overtime loss on the road to Kentucky.

 

 

Id like to know what last years Ohio States team has to do with this years?

 

Um last years' was significantly better and got drilled by the SEC champion who had tremendous speed on defense and offense just like this years likely SEC champion?

 

Ok makes some sense, I can at least see your reasoning in it.

[Derwood]

LSU could face USC in a bowl if LSU loses to either Arkansas or Georgia

 

Not a likely scenario.

 

1. LSU has to lose to one of two teams (teams that UF is better than so they can beat teams that good)

2. LSU then has to get an at large BCS berth, which is likely, unless they lose to Arkansas and beat UGA

3. USC has to get a BCS at large berth, but not win the Pac 10. If they win the Pac 10...

4. OSU has to get in the NC

5. USC and LSU gets BCS berths and then with conference tie-ins they have to hope that WVU gets into the NC versus a Big 12 team...and the other big 12 teams dont get berths

6. Fiesta Bowl picks both LSU and USC.

 

Plus a bunch of other things involving Hawaii and such.

 

Possible? Yes...likely? No.

 

now way they play in a non-BCS game?

 

I don't believe the SEC has a tie in with a bowl that also has a tie in with the Pac 10. They have them with the BE, BXII, BT and ACC.

 

those tie-ins sorta fall apart if better teams are available

[Mephistopheles]

no they dont

[Derwood]

no they dont

 

my mistake. i was thinking that a bowl could take the SEC #4 over an SEC #2 if they want (since three bowls are "tied-in" to SEC 2/3/4"

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Really interesting play there in the TT-OU game. Did anyone think that the WR had the ball and hit out of bounds before he got it ripped from him? I wish there was a camera angle that showed the transfer of possession well.

[Guest]

LSU could face USC in a bowl if LSU loses to either Arkansas or Georgia

 

Not a likely scenario.

 

1. LSU has to lose to one of two teams (teams that UF is better than so they can beat teams that good)

2. LSU then has to get an at large BCS berth, which is likely, unless they lose to Arkansas and beat UGA

3. USC has to get a BCS at large berth, but not win the Pac 10. If they win the Pac 10...

4. OSU has to get in the NC

5. USC and LSU gets BCS berths and then with conference tie-ins they have to hope that WVU gets into the NC versus a Big 12 team...and the other big 12 teams dont get berths

6. Fiesta Bowl picks both LSU and USC.

 

Plus a bunch of other things involving Hawaii and such.

 

Possible? Yes...likely? No.

 

now way they play in a non-BCS game?

 

I don't believe the SEC has a tie in with a bowl that also has a tie in with the Pac 10. They have them with the BE, BXII, BT and ACC.

 

those tie-ins sorta fall apart if better teams are available

 

If they fell apart the No. 2 Pac-10 team, if it didn't get picked for a BCS bowl, wouldn't get stuck in the Holiday Bowl every year.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

no they dont

 

my mistake. i was thinking that a bowl could take the SEC #4 over an SEC #2 if they want (since three bowls are "tied-in" to SEC

 

They can. I think Meph was talking about BCS bowls, which is a different story.

[Derwood]

no they dont

 

my mistake. i was thinking that a bowl could take the SEC #4 over an SEC #2 if they want (since three bowls are "tied-in" to SEC

 

They can. I think Meph was talking about BCS bowls, which is a different story.

 

even then, as if the Pac 10 or Big 10 champ is in the title game, for example, the Rose Bowl can go with at-large teams

[Transmogrified Tiger]

lol at Harrell getting interview questions screamed in his ear

[Guest]

margin of victory is a terrible way to judge teams strength. and since when does physically dominating another team on the road make a team look terrible. this is football, not a friggin' track meet.

[imb]

Really interesting play there in the TT-OU game. Did anyone think that the WR had the ball and hit out of bounds before he got it ripped from him? I wish there was a camera angle that showed the transfer of possession well.

 

I really think we got screwed there, but it's hard to complain with as bad as our defense played.

 

Got to beat OSU next week to keep BCS hopes alive.

[Sosa21MVP]

Really interesting play there in the TT-OU game. Did anyone think that the WR had the ball and hit out of bounds before he got it ripped from him? I wish there was a camera angle that showed the transfer of possession well.

 

I thought it was a TD. But college refs suck.

[Sosa21MVP]

The early talk I'm hearing is that Indiana might get invited to the Insight Bowl in Tempe. \:D/

[imb]

Really interesting play there in the TT-OU game. Did anyone think that the WR had the ball and hit out of bounds before he got it ripped from him? I wish there was a camera angle that showed the transfer of possession well.

 

I thought it was a TD. But college refs suck.

 

He got a foot down in bounds either way, but we still shouldn't have played so weak defensively.

[Sosa21MVP]

Really interesting play there in the TT-OU game. Did anyone think that the WR had the ball and hit out of bounds before he got it ripped from him? I wish there was a camera angle that showed the transfer of possession well.

 

I thought it was a TD. But college refs suck.

 

He got a foot down in bounds either way, but we still shouldn't have played so weak defensively.

 

I hear you. The refs screwed IU on a fumble call at the end of our game last week but I didn't even much care because we did so much wrong before that.

[Soul]

I'll say it again: best college football season ever.

 

This is going to be the ultimate demonstration of why the BCS is woefully inadequate. There's going to be at least 2 teams with a real good case for being in the big game who will be locked out, and probably a good many other teams that lost 1 more game, but everyone suspects would have a good shot at a championship if there was a playoff.

 

The national championship game is likely to look like nothing more than an abitrary matchup with no ultimately defensible reason for being the game to decide the champs.

 

Heck, at the risk of sounding real biased, one could make a case if there was a Big 10 championship game Illinois would wind up the BCS rep, not Ohio State. And in the SEC, it's probably going to be Tenn/LSU, when it's pretty clear Florida is better than Tenn.

 

The system is hopelessly broken. Hopelessly. It's no wonder why people keep trying to come up with their own systems for judging which team is the best. The official system for doing so doesn't cut the mustard.

[NCCubFan]

The early talk I'm hearing is that Indiana might get invited to the Insight Bowl in Tempe. \:D/

I think that's likely, since that's the Big Ten #6. IU passed both Iowa and Purdue in the Big Ten bowl hierarchy today (Iowa is most likely completely out because of having only a 6-6 record; IU should be ahead of Purdue by virtue of winning head-to-head and having the same overall record). It's still a shame they choked last week's game away, and I blame Lynch's calling for a pass on the backup QB's first play. Had they won that game they'd be 8-4 with a better bowl game and a chance at a top 25 final ranking with a bowl win.