Who are the Yankees targeting to replace ARod?

[haltz]

Scott Brosius was a winner. Let's face facts here.

[Yanksfan1523]

Hey let's face facts:

 

Year Runs Scored - Runs Allowed

1996 871-787

1997 901-688

1998 965-656

1999 900-731

2000 871-814

2001 804-713

2002 897-697

2003 877-716

2004 897-808

2005 886-789

2006 930-767

2007 968-777

 

Someone tell me the greatest difference between the Rodriguez years and the years before he got there?

 

Hey the team allows about 100-150 more runs a season. The Yankees pitching staff sucks these days. That's why they're not winning. It's not because Rodriguez is "not a winner" or any stupid idea like that. It's because they can't pitch.

 

 

So if he doesn't make a great difference in the offense, and the pitching is worse, Why give him 30 million per?? Wouldn't it be smarter to reverse the trend and spend on pitching and defense?? I would rather spend the money elsewhere.

 

Let me ask Cub fans a question. A-Rod will probably cost more per season than Soriano and Zambrano, so who would you prefer??

[Mephistopheles]

Rodriguez. Soriano sucks. Zambranos a ticking time bomb.

 

The Yankees would be better off cutting dead cash like Damon and others to strengthen up the staff, not letting go their best player. The Yankees will struggle to score 870 runs next season and will allow about 800. That puts them at around 87 wins. I'll bet on it now: If Rodriguez's gone and they don't make a significant upgrade they're not making the post season next year.

[Yanksfan1523]

Rodriguez. Soriano sucks. Zambranos a ticking time bomb.

 

The Yankees would be better off cutting dead cash like Damon and others to strengthen up the staff, not letting go their best player. The Yankees will struggle to score 870 runs next season and will allow about 800. That puts them at around 87 wins. I'll bet on it now: If Rodriguez's gone and they don't make a significant upgrade they're not making the post season next year.

 

So they miss the playoffs, but maybe the rest of the guys learn how to play together and grow into a TEAM. Say what you want the 2006 and 2007 Yankees had great players but were not a team!!

[Mephistopheles]

Rodriguez. Soriano sucks. Zambranos a ticking time bomb.

 

The Yankees would be better off cutting dead cash like Damon and others to strengthen up the staff, not letting go their best player. The Yankees will struggle to score 870 runs next season and will allow about 800. That puts them at around 87 wins. I'll bet on it now: If Rodriguez's gone and they don't make a significant upgrade they're not making the post season next year.

 

So they miss the playoffs, but maybe the rest of the guys learn how to play together and grow into a TEAM. Say what you want the 2006 and 2007 Yankees had great players but were not a team!!

 

they had great players on offense....on their pitching staff?....not so much. The 06-7 yankees were half a great team...not a great team.

[Sammy Sofa]

I had no idea MurtonFan loved the Yankees so much.

[Derwood]

how did Derek "Mr. Yankee" Jeter do this postseason?

 

there is no team in baseball that would not be greatly improved by adding Alex Rodriguez. None

[abuck1220]

Rodriguez. Soriano sucks. Zambranos a ticking time bomb.

 

The Yankees would be better off cutting dead cash like Damon and others to strengthen up the staff, not letting go their best player. The Yankees will struggle to score 870 runs next season and will allow about 800. That puts them at around 87 wins. I'll bet on it now: If Rodriguez's gone and they don't make a significant upgrade they're not making the post season next year.

 

So they miss the playoffs, but maybe the rest of the guys learn how to play together and grow into a TEAM.

 

i'm confused...that's the result you want?

[Derwood]

I'll take my team of non-Yankees (A-Rod, Sheffield, Clemens, Big Unit) and face off against yours of True Yankees (Jeter, Cano, Cabrera) and we'll see who wins in a 7 game series

[USSoccer]

Rodriguez. Soriano sucks. Zambranos a ticking time bomb.

 

The Yankees would be better off cutting dead cash like Damon and others to strengthen up the staff, not letting go their best player. The Yankees will struggle to score 870 runs next season and will allow about 800. That puts them at around 87 wins. I'll bet on it now: If Rodriguez's gone and they don't make a significant upgrade they're not making the post season next year.

 

So they miss the playoffs, but maybe the rest of the guys learn how to play together and grow into a TEAM. Say what you want the 2006 and 2007 Yankees had great players but were not a team!!

 

This is silly, silly logic.

 

You're saying that by getting rid of their best player, the remaining, high cost, low performance guys and the younger, marginally talented postition players are going to somehow overcome their respective flaws and be better off without the best player in the game?

 

Please tell me you're kidding. You cannot really believe that losing the best player in baseball is a net positive for your team.

[Yanksfan1523]

how did Derek "Mr. Yankee" Jeter do this postseason?

 

there is no team in baseball that would not be greatly improved by adding Alex Rodriguez. None

 

Jeter has had a few lousy post season series an says so himself. No one is blaming A-Rod for the Yankees woes in the post-season. The fact is A-Rod wants to be the best and make the most money, He has finally admitted he enjoys being the highest paid player. Therefor he should take the most critisism when his team folds like a cheap suit!

 

A-Rod deserves his money. I am just thankful that my team has decided to spend all that money more wisely. A-rod asking for 30-35 Million is TWICE what "Mr. Yankee" makes!! While I admit, THIS YEAR the Yankees would not have made the playoffs without A-Rod's season, I also don't care only about making it!! I want to see some excitement. And the last 2 years has given me NONE. I was glad when the Yankees started to get younger and get rid of some of the dead weight they have been carrying!! And there are more that need to be shown the door after A-Rod departs!!

[USSoccer]

THIS YEAR the Yankees would not have made the playoffs without A-Rod's season, I also don't care only about making it!! I want to see some excitement. And the last 2 years has given me NONE. I was glad when the Yankees started to get younger and get rid of some of the dead weight they have been carrying!! And there are more that need to be shown the door after A-Rod departs!!

 

So, wait...you don't care about the playoffs, you want to see excitement? What's more exciting that watching the best player in at least a generation play? And how is ARod dead weight? Mussina, Giambi, Damon-there's your dead weight.

 

You're not making sense.

[Derwood]

how did Derek "Mr. Yankee" Jeter do this postseason?

 

there is no team in baseball that would not be greatly improved by adding Alex Rodriguez. None

 

 

A-Rod deserves his money. I am just thankful that my team has decided to spend all that money more wisely.

 

the problem is that the Yankees front office has failed to show that they are very good at spending wisely these days. they throw truckloads of cash at players who are past their prime and on the downside of their careers and then wonder why those players either suck or get hurt. You have faith that the team that invested millions in Pavano, Wright, Damon, Giambi, etc. is really going to spend that A-Rod cash wisely? They're more likely to trade for Rolen or something

[UMFan83]

Here's a real mind-****: A-Rod gets more blame for the Yankees losing their last four post-season series than Alex Gonzalez gets for the Cubs game 6 loss in 2003.

 

Actually to be completely honest, I've always felt it was A-Rod's fault the Cubs lost game 6 in 2003...

[daske17]

Here's a real mind-****: A-Rod gets more blame for the Yankees losing their last four post-season series than Alex Gonzalez gets for the Cubs game 6 loss in 2003.

 

Actually to be completely honest, I've always felt it was A-Rod's fault the Cubs lost game 6 in 2003...

 

A-Rod bought Bartman's ticket for Game 6 and greased up A-Gon's glove. He also told Dusty to stay in the dugout while Prior melted down. You heard it here first.

[jersey cubs fan]

I love how Yankees fans constantly say, I'm not blaming ARod, but it's ARod's fault.

 

Craps me up everytime, and I've heard it thousands of times in the past few years.

 

 

Needless to say, it's great to see we've got a Yankees fan on here spouting the company line about the current batch not "being a TEAM", how ARod isn't a true Yankee, etc, etc, etc.

[fromthestretch]

I love how Yankees fans constantly say, I'm not blaming ARod, but it's ARod's fault.

 

Craps me up everytime, and I've heard it thousands of times in the past few years.

 

So that's what that smell is.

[Yanksfan1523]

THIS YEAR the Yankees would not have made the playoffs without A-Rod's season, I also don't care only about making it!! I want to see some excitement. And the last 2 years has given me NONE. I was glad when the Yankees started to get younger and get rid of some of the dead weight they have been carrying!! And there are more that need to be shown the door after A-Rod departs!!

 

So, wait...you don't care about the playoffs, you want to see excitement? What's more exciting that watching the best player in at least a generation play? And how is ARod dead weight? Mussina, Giambi, Damon-there's your dead weight.

 

You're not making sense.

 

I agree, but you forgot Pavano, Farnsworth, and the half the bullpen.

 

As far as me wanting the Yankees to miss the playoffs, I didn't say forever! Yes they may miss for a year or two, but they will still win!! I said miss the playoff for a year!! Argue all you want,The Yankees do not NEED A-Rod! He is not the Savior!! We need much more help and to pay him for 10 years is INSANE!! Let him go elsewhere and I will take my chances!! I understand who he is, but I understand WE AMDE THE POST-SEASON FOR 8 CONSECUTIVE YEARS BEFORE HE ARRIVED. It isn't like they will become the Astros when he leaves!! We can fix it, we have the technology!!

[USSoccer]

THIS YEAR the Yankees would not have made the playoffs without A-Rod's season, I also don't care only about making it!! I want to see some excitement. And the last 2 years has given me NONE. I was glad when the Yankees started to get younger and get rid of some of the dead weight they have been carrying!! And there are more that need to be shown the door after A-Rod departs!!

 

So, wait...you don't care about the playoffs, you want to see excitement? What's more exciting that watching the best player in at least a generation play? And how is ARod dead weight? Mussina, Giambi, Damon-there's your dead weight.

 

You're not making sense.

 

I agree, but you forgot Pavano, Farnsworth, and the half the bullpen.

 

As far as me wanting the Yankees to miss the playoffs, I didn't say forever! Yes they may miss for a year or two, but they will still win!! I said miss the playoff for a year!! Argue all you want,The Yankees do not NEED A-Rod! He is not the Savior!! We need much more help and to pay him for 10 years is INSANE!! Let him go elsewhere and I will take my chances!! I understand who he is, but I understand WE AMDE THE POST-SEASON FOR 8 CONSECUTIVE YEARS BEFORE HE ARRIVED. It isn't like they will become the Astros when he leaves!! We can fix it, we have the technology!!

 

Actually, there's a very decent chance they end up like the Blue Jays if he leaves. You need to realize that your lineup is pretty average without him. Jeter's declining. Damon and Giambi are both done. Cano and Cabrera are nothing special. Shelley Duncan is nothing. Matsui is declining. Abreu is good but on the downside. Posada is going to regress.

 

And as far as your pitching goes, Wang is good, Mussina is old, Pettite might retire, Chamberlin's arm might explode, and Hughes is still learning. Your bullpen is meh. You take those 90 or so runs over replacement that ARod provides out, and you're in more trouble that you think.

 

Also, yeah, ARod wanted 30m, but he was already making $25m per. Is the extra 10m or so per year really going to cripple you payroll wise?

[Mephistopheles]

Also, yeah, ARod wanted 30m, but he was already making $25m per. Is the extra 10m or so per year really going to cripple you payroll wise?

 

That's not entirely accurate. The Yankees only paid $16m of it. The Rangers picked up $9m. Since he opted out, the Rangers are the happiest team in the world.

[BigbadB]

As crazy as it sounds, if the Rays make a couple of good moves that improve their pitching staff, they have the potential to be better than the Yankees next year.

[Derwood]

hey goony, do New Yorkers talk with as many exclamation points as YankeeFan here types?

[USSoccer]

Also, yeah, ARod wanted 30m, but he was already making $25m per. Is the extra 10m or so per year really going to cripple you payroll wise?

 

That's not entirely accurate. The Yankees only paid $16m of it. The Rangers picked up $9m. Since he opted out, the Rangers are the happiest team in the world.

 

No, I know. But still, it's an extra $14m (not $10m). What's the difference to the Yankees? Are they going to be able to find better players for the extra money?

[Geech]

Cano and Cabrera are nothing special.

 

I don't want to pick nits, but Robinson Cano had an awesome 2007. His VORP was 40.5, or nearly as high as Aramis Ramirez and higher than Manny.

 

He may not hit .340 every season, but he doesn't have to in order to be a great player.

[BigbadB]

hey goony, do New Yorkers talk with as many exclamation points as YankeeFan here types?

 

And this adds to the discussion in exactly what way?