The NBA thread

[Magnetic Curses]

who is jim boylan?

 

the launch of hirejimboylan.com is only months away.

[Exile on Waveland]

Ryan Theriot is a better SS than Hanley Ramirez because his team has a better record

 

You can't compare basketball and baseball.

 

i just did.

 

 

oh, and the dunk contest was insane

 

Well, OK, you can. But that doesn't make it logical. A point guard in basketball just might have a bit more influence on a game than a baseball shortstop. Just maybe.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

[Derwood]

Ryan Theriot is a better SS than Hanley Ramirez because his team has a better record

 

You can't compare basketball and baseball.

 

i just did.

 

 

oh, and the dunk contest was insane

 

Well, OK, you can. But that doesn't make it logical. A point guard in basketball just might have a bit more influence on a game than a baseball shortstop. Just maybe.

 

but it's a team sport. you can lead the league in scoring individually but be on a last place team. that doesn't make you a worse player than a guy scoring half as much but being on a winning team.

[Magnetic Curses]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

[Derwood]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

 

because Williams is from Illinois DUH

[Magnetic Curses]

Ryan Theriot is a better SS than Hanley Ramirez because his team has a better record

 

You can't compare basketball and baseball.

 

but muhammed ali in his prime was way better than diet coke.

[Magnetic Curses]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

 

because Williams is from Illinois DUH

 

no, he's not. he's from texas.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

? They both are point guards that can also score.

[Magnetic Curses]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

? They both are point guards that can also score.

 

if you don't recognize that they're different players, you haven't see one or the other of them play.

[Derwood]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

 

because Williams is from Illinois DUH

 

no, he's not. he's from texas.

 

yeah, thanks. U. of Illinois. you knew that, but you wanted to be difficult. i understand

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

? They both are point guards that can also score.

 

if you don't recognize that they're different players, you haven't see one or the other of them play.

Why don't you come down and break down the differences between the two players for us, because obviously I don't watch basketball.

[Magnetic Curses]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

? They both are point guards that can also score.

 

if you don't recognize that they're different players, you haven't see one or the other of them play.

Why don't you come down and break down the differences between the two players for us, because obviously I don't watch basketball.

 

i didn't say you didn't watch basketball, just that you haven't seen one or the other of them play and you tend to make assumptions based on anecdotal evidence and highlights from the booyaa network. you definitely possibly could maybe watch some basketball, but your assessments are mainly uptight bedwetting garbage--as evidenced by your most recent temper tantrum over a fairly beign observation and statement that i had made--your posts are terrible, they have doodoo for brains and your lack of insight is the key to this. but onto the analysis....

 

paul is a player that tends to be the focal point of an offense, he goes hard to the basket and forces the action, he finds opn players based on what he does, the offense is based on his abilities and quickness. everything the team does is predicated on what he does, he is the offense.

 

deron works within an offensive system, he finds open players and his own shots by playing off of the abilities of his teammates. he's anaytical, not as physically talented or skilled as paul, but more cerebral. a true court general that delegates responisbilities on the court to players that are more skilled than he is.

[Magnetic Curses]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

 

because Williams is from Illinois DUH

 

no, he's not. he's from texas.

 

yeah, thanks. U. of Illinois. you knew that, but you wanted to be difficult. i understand

 

no problem. but i wasn't being difficult. deron went to the u of i but i never said that he was better than paul.

[Magnetic Curses]

did you actually want to talk about the weather or were you just making chit-chat?

[Derwood]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

 

because Williams is from Illinois DUH

 

no, he's not. he's from texas.

 

yeah, thanks. U. of Illinois. you knew that, but you wanted to be difficult. i understand

 

no problem. but i wasn't being difficult. deron went to the u of i but i never said that he was better than paul.

 

no, but illiniguy did. and he isn't exactly unbiased in his opinions of things

[Magnetic Curses]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

 

because Williams is from Illinois DUH

 

no, he's not. he's from texas.

 

yeah, thanks. U. of Illinois. you knew that, but you wanted to be difficult. i understand

 

no problem. but i wasn't being difficult. deron went to the u of i but i never said that he was better than paul.

 

no, but illiniguy did. and he isn't exactly unbiased in his opinions of things

 

haha.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

? They both are point guards that can also score.

 

if you don't recognize that they're different players, you haven't see one or the other of them play.

Why don't you come down and break down the differences between the two players for us, because obviously I don't watch basketball.

 

i didn't say you didn't watch basketball, just that you haven't seen one or the other of them play and you tend to make assumptions based on anecdotal evidence and highlights from the booyaa network. you definitely possibly could maybe watch some basketball, but your assessments are mainly uptight bedwetting garbage--as evidenced by your most recent temper tantrum over a fairly beign observation and statement that i had made--.

 

Actually garbage would be your hyperbolic post earlier(Ali vs. a Diet Coke). While their styles of play may differ a bit, you can most certainly make comparisons between the two players as their value as an NBA point guard.

[Magnetic Curses]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

? They both are point guards that can also score.

 

if you don't recognize that they're different players, you haven't see one or the other of them play.

Why don't you come down and break down the differences between the two players for us, because obviously I don't watch basketball.

 

i didn't say you didn't watch basketball, just that you haven't seen one or the other of them play and you tend to make assumptions based on anecdotal evidence and highlights from the booyaa network. you definitely possibly could maybe watch some basketball, but your assessments are mainly uptight bedwetting garbage--as evidenced by your most recent temper tantrum over a fairly beign observation and statement that i had made--.

 

Actually garbage would be your hyperbolic post earlier(Ali vs. a Diet Coke). While their styles of play may differ a bit, you can most certainly make comparisons between the two players as their value as an NBA point guard.

 

no, hyperbole would be saying that this post is average.

[Exile on Waveland]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

? They both are point guards that can also score.

 

if you don't recognize that they're different players, you haven't see one or the other of them play.

Why don't you come down and break down the differences between the two players for us, because obviously I don't watch basketball.

 

i didn't say you didn't watch basketball, just that you haven't seen one or the other of them play and you tend to make assumptions based on anecdotal evidence and highlights from the booyaa network. you definitely possibly could maybe watch some basketball, but your assessments are mainly uptight bedwetting garbage--as evidenced by your most recent temper tantrum over a fairly beign observation and statement that i had made--.

 

Actually garbage would be your hyperbolic post earlier(Ali vs. a Diet Coke). While their styles of play may differ a bit, you can most certainly make comparisons between the two players as their value as an NBA point guard.

 

He was talking about baseball v. basketball, not Williams v. Paul.

[Magnetic Curses]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

? They both are point guards that can also score.

 

if you don't recognize that they're different players, you haven't see one or the other of them play.

Why don't you come down and break down the differences between the two players for us, because obviously I don't watch basketball.

 

i didn't say you didn't watch basketball, just that you haven't seen one or the other of them play and you tend to make assumptions based on anecdotal evidence and highlights from the booyaa network. you definitely possibly could maybe watch some basketball, but your assessments are mainly uptight bedwetting garbage--as evidenced by your most recent temper tantrum over a fairly beign observation and statement that i had made--.

 

Actually garbage would be your hyperbolic post earlier(Ali vs. a Diet Coke). While their styles of play may differ a bit, you can most certainly make comparisons between the two players as their value as an NBA point guard.

 

He was talking about baseball v. basketball, not Williams v. Paul.

 

thank you, and it was more of a joke to illustrate a point than anything. maybe poorly worded, but that's not my fault, i ripped it off of the simpsons.

[Exile on Waveland]

Even if someone wants to use the logic that Deron Williams > Chris Paul based on "Winning Games", shouldn't it be pointed out that Paul's Hornets have the best record in the Westen Conference?

 

 

why does one or the other have to be better? they're different players.

? They both are point guards that can also score.

 

if you don't recognize that they're different players, you haven't see one or the other of them play.

Why don't you come down and break down the differences between the two players for us, because obviously I don't watch basketball.

 

i didn't say you didn't watch basketball, just that you haven't seen one or the other of them play and you tend to make assumptions based on anecdotal evidence and highlights from the booyaa network. you definitely possibly could maybe watch some basketball, but your assessments are mainly uptight bedwetting garbage--as evidenced by your most recent temper tantrum over a fairly beign observation and statement that i had made--.

 

Actually garbage would be your hyperbolic post earlier(Ali vs. a Diet Coke). While their styles of play may differ a bit, you can most certainly make comparisons between the two players as their value as an NBA point guard.

 

He was talking about baseball v. basketball, not Williams v. Paul.

 

thank you, and it was more of a joke to illustrate a point than anything. maybe poorly worded, but that's not my fault, i ripped it off of the simpsons.

 

Well, it made me chuckle. For what that's worth.

[Magnetic Curses]

 

Well, it made me chuckle. For what that's worth.

 

i'm glad somebody got it. :lol:

[hawkeyecub]

Ryan Theriot is a better SS than Hanley Ramirez because his team has a better record

 

You can't compare basketball and baseball.

 

i just did.

 

 

oh, and the dunk contest was insane

 

Well, OK, you can. But that doesn't make it logical. A point guard in basketball just might have a bit more influence on a game than a baseball shortstop. Just maybe.

 

but it's a team sport. you can lead the league in scoring individually but be on a last place team. that doesn't make you a worse player than a guy scoring half as much but being on a winning team.

 

It's a team sport where you only have 5 players on the court. 1 player has much more impact than any of the other major team sports by a wide margin and actually can/do make their teammates better. That's especially true at PG.

Your scenario can be right at times because just scoring a lot of points per game doesn't mean much without context.

 

That doesn't mean wins should be a measurement, but team success has to be considered. That's obviously not true in baseball so there's really no point in even bringing it up.

[Outshined_One]

Wasn't Shawn Kemp the same size as Dwight Howard?

 

Howard's much stronger and can jump a heck of a lot higher. Moreover, unlike Kemp, Howard's never had weight issues.