College Basketball 2007-2008

[Sosa21MVP]

I would much rather see them listen to Pat Knight's recommendation.

 

:cry:

[Sosa21MVP]

Wake Forest leads 73-66 over Duke with 3:20 remaining.

[Keener98]

Wake Forest leads 73-66 over Duke with 3:20 remaining.

 

 

Dukes not at home so WF doesnt have as much to worry about in the closing minutes.

[Sosa21MVP]

I just wasted a half hour of my life arguing with an Indiana fan who believes Dan Dakich is the best we can do for a FULL-TIME REPLACEMENT for Sampson. Not interim, full-time coach. :banghead:

[Sosa21MVP]

Looks like a potential exciting finish in the UCLA-USC game.

[snoodmonger]

Well, this week's games (Duke losing, Memphis struggling with UAB) are really solidifying the thought that there are no "special" teams this year. You'd think that would make me feel better about my team's chances, but I'm beginning to think KU will bow out in the sweet 16. They've just been unimpressive for too long now.

[Magnetic Curses]

Looks like a potential exciting finish in the UCLA-USC game.

 

shhhhhh, raising will hear you.

[SouthSideRyan]

No 5 star recruit is going to go play for a redass like Skiles. You can still be a top team without 5 stars, but IU would never see a Gordon or Ebanks(whoops) again if they had Skiles.

[Guest]

Looks like a potential exciting finish in the UCLA-USC game.

 

shhhhhh, raising will hear you.

 

Was it really? I missed the second half but UCLA won by 10...was it close and UCLA just made their FTs to stretch the lead? Also, looks like the second half was UGLY.

 

LMAO...OJ Mayo had 10 turnovers and 4 points.

[Sosa21MVP]

Looks like a potential exciting finish in the UCLA-USC game.

 

shhhhhh, raising will hear you.

 

Was it really? I missed the second half but UCLA won by 10...was it close and UCLA just made their FTs to stretch the lead? Also, looks like the second half was UGLY.

 

LMAO...OJ Mayo had 10 turnovers and 4 points.

 

I made that post when USC had pulled within 6 points at 46-40.....UCLA did pretty much have control the entire game but USC hung around it seemed....from 46-40 it never got closer. Didn't watch the entire game but I kept an eye on the score here and there.

[Sosa21MVP]

No 5 star recruit is going to go play for a redass like Skiles. You can still be a top team without 5 stars, but IU would never see a Gordon or Ebanks(whoops) again if they had Skiles.

 

I think the Charlotte Bobcats have a better chance at winning the NBA title this year than Skiles coming to IU. The more I think about it......nah, not happening. Just the brainchild of some drunk sportswriter.

 

Although I'd still support the hire if it happened. Hey, Skiles might be a redass but that is why you hire a charismatic assistant to smooth over the recruiting process. :mrgreen:

[Exile on Waveland]

No 5 star recruit is going to go play for a redass like Skiles. You can still be a top team without 5 stars, but IU would never see a Gordon or Ebanks(whoops) again if they had Skiles.

 

I don't agree with that. Redasses can still recruit top players; especially former NBA redass coaches. Some would immediately rule out a Skiles-coached team, others wouldn't. However, even if you're right, I don't much care. IU can win without one-year, five-star players. Recruit the four-star guys from Indiana and I'll be quite happy.

 

I doubt Skiles happens though.

[snoodmonger]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/snoodmonger1/mwmem12.jpg

 

It's better when the picture is bigger. The expressions on the UAB people's faces are great.

[Guest]

Looks like a potential exciting finish in the UCLA-USC game.

 

shhhhhh, raising will hear you.

 

Was it really? I missed the second half but UCLA won by 10...was it close and UCLA just made their FTs to stretch the lead? Also, looks like the second half was UGLY.

 

LMAO...OJ Mayo had 10 turnovers and 4 points.

 

I made that post when USC had pulled within 6 points at 46-40.....UCLA did pretty much have control the entire game but USC hung around it seemed....from 46-40 it never got closer. Didn't watch the entire game but I kept an eye on the score here and there.

 

Got it. Watched the second half and I see what you mean.

[snoodmonger]

haha, here's a pic of a memphis player slapping orange shirt dude on the right.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/snoodmonger1/mwmem8_t600.jpg

[imb]

haha, here's a pic of a memphis player slapping orange shirt dude on the right.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/snoodmonger1/mwmem8_t600.jpg

 

Hahahaha, you can see the aftermath in the first pic. That's great.

[Guest]

Classy, Memphis.

[snoodmonger]

Hahahaha, you can see the aftermath in the first pic. That's great.

 

The progression:

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/snoodmonger1/mwmem4_t600.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/snoodmonger1/mwmem8_t600.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/snoodmonger1/mwmem12.jpg

[BRASKYS SCOTCH]

Davis averaged over 19 wins a year. He was still disliked by a gross majority of the fan base, and one more win a year wouldn't have changed that. Winning is but one fact, especially for Indiana fans after 29 years of Coach Knight. Sampson is winning but most want him gone. Davis's problems ran much deeper than wins-losses (though he had issues there, too).

 

He only averaged 16 wins per season in his final 3 years, that is what did him in. Including a two year stretch of 29-29 where IU missed the NCAA tourney for the first time since 1985. Those mediocre seasons combined with sticking his foot in his mouth at every available opportunity was the main thing.

 

Yes, I know. I was just pointing out that he nearly did average 20 wins a year during his tenure. His last three and a half years of 13-13, 14-15, 15-14 and 19-12 were unacceptable, of course. It wasn't simply wins that cost Davis his job.

 

Davis got stuck w/ being the guy replacing Knight and, therefore, "not being Knight." However, he could have eased this problem by paying attention to Indiana basketball as a whole. He pissed off high school coaches and consistently looked outside the state to recruit. Consequently he distanced himself from the concept of Indiana basketball as a social phenomenon of the state and that only made the public see differences between him and someone who "gets" Indiana basketball that much more rigid. The moment his teams started turning in poor performances on the court created the slippery slope that his way was never going to take IU basketball anywhere in the eyes of its fans.

 

Given the disciplinary issues surrounding IU, you plug in Skiles who is accurately seen as a taskmaster and someone who instills hustle and fundamentals. Furthermore, you connect his status as a local boy that people in basketball circles still recognize as one of their own (he got his number retired last year, I believe, at Plymouth). The household name effect gives him access to high school coaches and their players. Add any benefit of his ties to the NBA and how he can construct an argument to a recruit that he knows what it takes to succeed on the next level, then you have a hell of a coaching prospect in my mind.

[Exile on Waveland]

Please IU, please bring Steve back home. It would be so sweet to beat him at a "real basketball school" when he's "back in red" and hear what excuses he would come up with. I actually liked Alford a fair amount and defended him quite a bit when he was here, but he did himself no favors on the way out.

 

You have every right to dislike Alford; if I were you, I would too. However, I think Iowa fans would come to dislike him even more if he got the IU job. Methinks Alford would be very successful at Indiana.

[Exile on Waveland]

Davis averaged over 19 wins a year. He was still disliked by a gross majority of the fan base, and one more win a year wouldn't have changed that. Winning is but one fact, especially for Indiana fans after 29 years of Coach Knight. Sampson is winning but most want him gone. Davis's problems ran much deeper than wins-losses (though he had issues there, too).

 

He only averaged 16 wins per season in his final 3 years, that is what did him in. Including a two year stretch of 29-29 where IU missed the NCAA tourney for the first time since 1985. Those mediocre seasons combined with sticking his foot in his mouth at every available opportunity was the main thing.

 

Yes, I know. I was just pointing out that he nearly did average 20 wins a year during his tenure. His last three and a half years of 13-13, 14-15, 15-14 and 19-12 were unacceptable, of course. It wasn't simply wins that cost Davis his job.

 

Davis got stuck w/ being the guy replacing Knight and, therefore, "not being Knight." However, he could have eased this problem by paying attention to Indiana basketball as a whole. He pissed off high school coaches and consistently looked outside the state to recruit. Consequently he distanced himself from the concept of Indiana basketball as a social phenomenon of the state and that only made the public see differences between him and someone who "gets" Indiana basketball that much more rigid. The moment his teams started turning in poor performances on the court created the slippery slope that his way was never going to take IU basketball anywhere in the eyes of its fans.

 

Given the disciplinary issues surrounding IU, you plug in Skiles who is accurately seen as a taskmaster and someone who instills hustle and fundamentals. Furthermore, you connect his status as a local boy that people in basketball circles still recognize as one of their own (he got his number retired last year, I believe, at Plymouth). The household name effect gives him access to high school coaches and their players. Add any benefit of his ties to the NBA and how he can construct an argument to a recruit that he knows what it takes to succeed on the next level, then you have a hell of a coaching prospect in my mind.

 

This post is basically perfect. I didn't feel like getting into Davis's issues again, as it leads me to violent thoughts. You did it immaculately. I also agree regarding Skiles.

[Rex Buckingham]

Hahahaha, you can see the aftermath in the first pic. That's great.

 

The progression:

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/snoodmonger1/mwmem4_t600.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/snoodmonger1/mwmem8_t600.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/snoodmonger1/mwmem12.jpg

 

 

and of course, the UAB fans showing off their great education, spelling Memphis incorrectly

[Exile on Waveland]

I just wasted a half hour of my life arguing with an Indiana fan who believes Dan Dakich is the best we can do for a FULL-TIME REPLACEMENT for Sampson. Not interim, full-time coach. :banghead:

 

That's just crazy. You should've given up much sooner. I don't have much faith in IU's administration and fear they'll botch the next hire (assuming they actually do dismiss Sampson). But IU obviously could do much better than Dakich. I like Dakich, but c'mon.

[BRASKYS SCOTCH]

Davis averaged over 19 wins a year. He was still disliked by a gross majority of the fan base, and one more win a year wouldn't have changed that. Winning is but one fact, especially for Indiana fans after 29 years of Coach Knight. Sampson is winning but most want him gone. Davis's problems ran much deeper than wins-losses (though he had issues there, too).

 

He only averaged 16 wins per season in his final 3 years, that is what did him in. Including a two year stretch of 29-29 where IU missed the NCAA tourney for the first time since 1985. Those mediocre seasons combined with sticking his foot in his mouth at every available opportunity was the main thing.

 

Yes, I know. I was just pointing out that he nearly did average 20 wins a year during his tenure. His last three and a half years of 13-13, 14-15, 15-14 and 19-12 were unacceptable, of course. It wasn't simply wins that cost Davis his job.

 

Davis got stuck w/ being the guy replacing Knight and, therefore, "not being Knight." However, he could have eased this problem by paying attention to Indiana basketball as a whole. He pissed off high school coaches and consistently looked outside the state to recruit. Consequently he distanced himself from the concept of Indiana basketball as a social phenomenon of the state and that only made the public see differences between him and someone who "gets" Indiana basketball that much more rigid. The moment his teams started turning in poor performances on the court created the slippery slope that his way was never going to take IU basketball anywhere in the eyes of its fans.

 

Given the disciplinary issues surrounding IU, you plug in Skiles who is accurately seen as a taskmaster and someone who instills hustle and fundamentals. Furthermore, you connect his status as a local boy that people in basketball circles still recognize as one of their own (he got his number retired last year, I believe, at Plymouth). The household name effect gives him access to high school coaches and their players. Add any benefit of his ties to the NBA and how he can construct an argument to a recruit that he knows what it takes to succeed on the next level, then you have a hell of a coaching prospect in my mind.

 

This post is basically perfect. I didn't feel like getting into Davis's issues again, as it leads me to violent thoughts. You did it immaculately. I also agree regarding Skiles.

 

Thanks. I was a junior there when Knight was fired, and you could feel the tension - both sides - surrounding Davis as a long-term replacement for all the reasons I listed. I actually saw Skiles grocery shopping at the place near University Commons. Not sure he's open to coaching on collegiate level, but considering the situation any one would have to consider the possibility.

[Exile on Waveland]

Davis averaged over 19 wins a year. He was still disliked by a gross majority of the fan base, and one more win a year wouldn't have changed that. Winning is but one fact, especially for Indiana fans after 29 years of Coach Knight. Sampson is winning but most want him gone. Davis's problems ran much deeper than wins-losses (though he had issues there, too).

 

He only averaged 16 wins per season in his final 3 years, that is what did him in. Including a two year stretch of 29-29 where IU missed the NCAA tourney for the first time since 1985. Those mediocre seasons combined with sticking his foot in his mouth at every available opportunity was the main thing.

 

Yes, I know. I was just pointing out that he nearly did average 20 wins a year during his tenure. His last three and a half years of 13-13, 14-15, 15-14 and 19-12 were unacceptable, of course. It wasn't simply wins that cost Davis his job.

 

Davis got stuck w/ being the guy replacing Knight and, therefore, "not being Knight." However, he could have eased this problem by paying attention to Indiana basketball as a whole. He pissed off high school coaches and consistently looked outside the state to recruit. Consequently he distanced himself from the concept of Indiana basketball as a social phenomenon of the state and that only made the public see differences between him and someone who "gets" Indiana basketball that much more rigid. The moment his teams started turning in poor performances on the court created the slippery slope that his way was never going to take IU basketball anywhere in the eyes of its fans.

 

Given the disciplinary issues surrounding IU, you plug in Skiles who is accurately seen as a taskmaster and someone who instills hustle and fundamentals. Furthermore, you connect his status as a local boy that people in basketball circles still recognize as one of their own (he got his number retired last year, I believe, at Plymouth). The household name effect gives him access to high school coaches and their players. Add any benefit of his ties to the NBA and how he can construct an argument to a recruit that he knows what it takes to succeed on the next level, then you have a hell of a coaching prospect in my mind.

 

This post is basically perfect. I didn't feel like getting into Davis's issues again, as it leads me to violent thoughts. You did it immaculately. I also agree regarding Skiles.

 

Thanks. I was a junior there when Knight was fired, and you could feel the tension - both sides - surrounding Davis as a long-term replacement for all the reasons I listed. I actually saw Skiles grocery shopping at the place near University Commons. Not sure he's open to coaching on collegiate level, but considering the situation any one would have to consider the possibility.

 

I was a (sophomore)*. I hated the Davis hiring; still do. Skiles was living in Bloomington when Coach Knight was fired, not sure about now. I don't know if he would be interested but he should be.

 

*I might be the dumbest third-year law student in the country. I was a junior, not a sophomore when Coach Knight was fired. I can remember the exact date (September 10, 200) but not what class I was? I guess I was just thinking I had two years of Coach Knight and two years of Davis as a student and two=sophomore. Whatever, moronic.

Edited February 18, 2008 by Exile on Waveland