Would a World Series win really be good for Cubs Nation?

[Guest]

Obviously most people didnt notice that I mentioned that the true fans would love it and stay true, however the world wide Cubs fans who simply find the team "trendy" would stop caring, not that they matter to us, however from a marketing stand point, it could hurt.

 

Didn't happen to the Red Sox. They got more bandwagon fans.

 

Where would these trendy I like losing team fans go? The Indians and Giants haven't lost nearly long enough.

[Soul]

Obviously most people didnt notice that I mentioned that the true fans would love it and stay true, however the world wide Cubs fans who simply find the team "trendy" would stop caring, not that they matter to us, however from a marketing stand point, it could hurt.

 

Don't worry, I think I know what you were getting at.

 

I just think most people wouldn't care what would happen to fans who are just hanging on for the drama of not winning a WS for 100 years. And I don't think ultimately there would be all that many of them. We would probably gain more trendy fans who hang on to winners than we would lose in drama queens.

[jersey cubs fan]

Obviously most people didnt notice that I mentioned that the true fans would love it and stay true, however the world wide Cubs fans who simply find the team "trendy" would stop caring, not that they matter to us, however from a marketing stand point, it could hurt.

 

And what I'm saying is this is ridiculous.

 

"True fans" is a stupid phrase. The theory that many fans find the team trendy because they lose is stupid. The theory that marketing would decline if they won is asinine.

 

 

It's a stupid topic that should be deleted.

[Andy]

We almost made it to the end of September without this crap coming up.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Obviously most people didnt notice that I mentioned that the true fans would love it and stay true, however the world wide Cubs fans who simply find the team "trendy" would stop caring, not that they matter to us, however from a marketing stand point, it could hurt.

 

And what I'm saying is this is ridiculous.

 

"True fans" is a stupid phrase. The theory that many fans find the team trendy because they lose is stupid. The theory that marketing would decline if they won is asinine.

 

 

It's a stupid topic that should be deleted.

 

Immediatly, it would skyrocked, however, in the long runs, people outside Chicago would not care as much, and wed become another hated big money team like the Yanks and Red Sox.

[Soul]

Obviously most people didnt notice that I mentioned that the true fans would love it and stay true, however the world wide Cubs fans who simply find the team "trendy" would stop caring, not that they matter to us, however from a marketing stand point, it could hurt.

 

And what I'm saying is this is ridiculous.

 

"True fans" is a stupid phrase. The theory that many fans find the team trendy because they lose is stupid. The theory that marketing would decline if they won is asinine.

 

 

It's a stupid topic that should be deleted.

 

More likely we benefit from a certain number of non-Cub fans who simply wish to experience Wrigley Field. I don't see that declining unless the Cubs move away from Wrigleyville.

[WindyCity]

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2. characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.

3. tediously dull, esp. due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.

4. annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.

5. in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue.

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7. this thread on nsbb: viewtopic.php?t=44233

 

 

Its an interesting thought.

 

No - its not interesting at all.

[CuseCubFan69]

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–adjective

1. lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.

2. characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.

3. tediously dull, esp. due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.

4. annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.

5. in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue.

6. Slang. excellent; terrific.

–noun

7. this thread on nsbb: viewtopic.php?t=44233

 

 

Its an interesting thought.

 

No - its not interesting at all.

 

For no interest he certainly seems to have quite a few posts.

[CubinNY]

Obviously most people didnt notice that I mentioned that the true fans would love it and stay true, however the world wide Cubs fans who simply find the team "trendy" would stop caring, not that they matter to us, however from a marketing stand point, it could hurt.

 

And what I'm saying is this is ridiculous.

 

"True fans" is a stupid phrase. The theory that many fans find the team trendy because they lose is stupid. The theory that marketing would decline if they won is asinine.

 

 

It's a stupid topic that should be deleted.

 

Immediatly, it would skyrocked, however, in the long runs, people outside Chicago would not care as much, and wed become another hated big money team like the Yanks and Red Sox.

 

Holy moley, the Yankees and Red Sox probably have the two largest fan bases in baseball. The Cubs, Dodgers, and Giants are probably in the second teir.

 

I think you are not approaching this logically.

 

When I was really young I liked the Minnesota Vikings of Fran Tarknington, Alan Page, Chuck Forman, Sammy White, George Marsahall etc..

 

I still like the Vikings today even know they suck and play in roller dome.

 

Whatever fans the Cubs get by winning will be a plus.

[FergieJ31]

I think this is an incredibly ridiculous topic and question.

 

+1

 

Wasn't there a thread on this last month, based on some dumb Mariotti column?

[biittner77]

If the Cubs win the WS we can get busy waiting for them to win another one.

[Derwood]

I think this is an incredibly ridiculous topic and question.

 

then i don't think you understand the question

[Guest]

Obviously most people didnt notice that I mentioned that the true fans would love it and stay true, however the world wide Cubs fans who simply find the team "trendy" would stop caring, not that they matter to us, however from a marketing stand point, it could hurt.

 

And what I'm saying is this is ridiculous.

 

"True fans" is a stupid phrase. The theory that many fans find the team trendy because they lose is stupid. The theory that marketing would decline if they won is asinine.

 

 

It's a stupid topic that should be deleted.

 

Immediatly, it would skyrocked, however, in the long runs, people outside Chicago would not care as much, and wed become another hated big money team like the Yanks and Red Sox.

 

Oh well, we'll be hated. The Cubs just won a World Series, I wouldn't care what others think.

[FergieJ31]

I think this is an incredibly ridiculous topic and question.

 

then i don't think you understand the question

 

The question posed by the OP is pretty clear:

 

What I speak of is the fans out there who like the idea of the team who hasnt won in almost a century.

 

It's a ridiculous question - why do we give a rat's ass about this type of "fan"? Who cares? It's not the case for 99.9% of the posters on NSBB.

[chuckywang]

The Yankees have mystique too. If you keep on winning, you gain mystique as well.

[Derwood]

I think this is an incredibly ridiculous topic and question.

 

then i don't think you understand the question

 

The question posed by the OP is pretty clear:

 

What I speak of is the fans out there who like the idea of the team who hasnt won in almost a century.

 

It's a ridiculous question - why do we give a rat's ass about this type of "fan"? Who cares? It's not the case for 99.9% of the posters on NSBB.

 

i don't think people "like" that the team hasn't won in 99 years.

 

however, i think that once the team does win, you won't see a ton of support for the team if/when they tank again.

 

the comparison to the Red Sox doesn't hold water, as Boston was a perennial playoff team before 2004 and since. the Cubs have showed no ability to put together two straight postseason years much less a decade of them.

 

do people really think that Wrigley will be filled to the rafters every day if the Cubs put up a 95 loss team after winning it all? I don't

[CubinNY]

I think this is an incredibly ridiculous topic and question.

 

then i don't think you understand the question

 

The question posed by the OP is pretty clear:

 

What I speak of is the fans out there who like the idea of the team who hasnt won in almost a century.

 

It's a ridiculous question - why do we give a rat's ass about this type of "fan"? Who cares? It's not the case for 99.9% of the posters on NSBB.

 

i don't think people "like" that the team hasn't won in 99 years.

 

however, i think that once the team does win, you won't see a ton of support for the team if/when they tank again.

 

the comparison to the Red Sox doesn't hold water, as Boston was a perennial playoff team before 2004 and since. the Cubs have showed no ability to put together two straight postseason years much less a decade of them.

 

do people really think that Wrigley will be filled to the rafters every day if the Cubs put up a 95 loss team after winning it all? I don't

 

That's the worst argument I think I've ever read on here.

 

The Cubs wouldn't be selling out if they post a 95 loss season no matter what. Look what happend at the end of last year.

 

This entire thread is a text book example of specious reasoning.

 

I don't get it. It's moronic to conclude that winning would hurt the Cubs in popularity, even if they suck the next year.

[Derwood]

I think this is an incredibly ridiculous topic and question.

 

then i don't think you understand the question

 

The question posed by the OP is pretty clear:

 

What I speak of is the fans out there who like the idea of the team who hasnt won in almost a century.

 

It's a ridiculous question - why do we give a rat's ass about this type of "fan"? Who cares? It's not the case for 99.9% of the posters on NSBB.

 

i don't think people "like" that the team hasn't won in 99 years.

 

however, i think that once the team does win, you won't see a ton of support for the team if/when they tank again.

 

the comparison to the Red Sox doesn't hold water, as Boston was a perennial playoff team before 2004 and since. the Cubs have showed no ability to put together two straight postseason years much less a decade of them.

 

do people really think that Wrigley will be filled to the rafters every day if the Cubs put up a 95 loss team after winning it all? I don't

 

That's the worst argument I think I've ever read on here.

 

The Cubs wouldn't be selling out if they post a 95 loss season no matter what. Look what happend at the end of last year.

 

This entire thread is a text book example of specious reasoning.

 

I don't get it. It's moronic to conclude that winning would hurt the Cubs in popularity, even if they suck the next year.

 

you're being narrow-minded. how many "fans" are hanging in there to say they were fans when the team finally wins (and would quickly jump ship afterwards)?

 

and please, don't take this as meaning that I don't want them to win. i could really give a crap what fair weather fans do after the Cubs win it. i'm just making an argument

[SouthSideRyan]

Honestly, who cares?

 

Let Sam Zell worry about it.

[circlechange]

I think the mistake you made is in using the word "good" to make your point in the subject title.

 

Of course it would be good for Cubs fan. "True" fans and even the more recent fans that have cheered them on since Sammy/Kerry/2003 would obviously be very happy.

 

However, I do think you make an interesting an accurate point. Using the Red Sox as an example, many baseball fans that weren't Red Sox fans still cheered them on as they were trying to beat the Yankees and end their drought. Three years later and many of those fans seem to have turned against them or stopped caring, though enough are still around because of their continued success. If the Red Sox ever started losing, they would lose the recent bandwagon fans, and the "mystique" that they previously had.

 

I think the same thing would happen with the Cubs. However, any real fan will not care if the rest of the nation doesn't go gaga over the Cubs. In fact, I wouldn't mind losing bandwagon fans. So, in the sense that you're questioning whether it's good or not, I think that that is not the right word to use. But your underlying point of what it would do to the national support we receive is well taken.

 

To say that this topic is stupid and should be deleted and how we almost made it the whole year without it coming up, maybe you guys should try to understand the point before jumping on the OP.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Obviously most people didnt notice that I mentioned that the true fans would love it and stay true, however the world wide Cubs fans who simply find the team "trendy" would stop caring, not that they matter to us, however from a marketing stand point, it could hurt.

 

And what I'm saying is this is ridiculous.

 

"True fans" is a stupid phrase. The theory that many fans find the team trendy because they lose is stupid. The theory that marketing would decline if they won is asinine.

 

 

It's a stupid topic that should be deleted.

 

Immediatly, it would skyrocked, however, in the long runs, people outside Chicago would not care as much, and wed become another hated big money team like the Yanks and Red Sox.

 

Holy moley, the Yankees and Red Sox probably have the two largest fan bases in baseball. The Cubs, Dodgers, and Giants are probably in the second teir.

I think you are not approaching this logically.

 

When I was really young I liked the Minnesota Vikings of Fran Tarknington, Alan Page, Chuck Forman, Sammy White, George Marsahall etc..

 

I still like the Vikings today even know they suck and play in roller dome.

 

Whatever fans the Cubs get by winning will be a plus.

 

Of course teams in cities like New York, Chicago, Boston, and LA are going to have bigger fan bases in smaller market areas such as Cincinatti, Milwaukie, and Kansas City.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Of course teams in cities like New York, Chicago, Boston, and LA are going to have bigger fan bases in smaller market areas such as Cincinatti, Milwaukie, and Kansas City.

 

So then winning a WS would keep them having a bigger fan base? Are you worried kids in Lithuania will stop buying Ohman jerseys? I'm confused.

[Soul]

I don't want topics deleted, but I always cringe when I hear the term "True Fan"

[jersey cubs fan]

I think this is an incredibly ridiculous topic and question.

 

then i don't think you understand the question

 

The question posed by the OP is pretty clear:

 

What I speak of is the fans out there who like the idea of the team who hasnt won in almost a century.

 

It's a ridiculous question - why do we give a rat's ass about this type of "fan"? Who cares? It's not the case for 99.9% of the posters on NSBB.

 

i don't think people "like" that the team hasn't won in 99 years.

 

however, i think that once the team does win, you won't see a ton of support for the team if/when they tank again.

 

the comparison to the Red Sox doesn't hold water, as Boston was a perennial playoff team before 2004 and since. the Cubs have showed no ability to put together two straight postseason years much less a decade of them.

 

do people really think that Wrigley will be filled to the rafters every day if the Cubs put up a 95 loss team after winning it all? I don't

 

Wow, I thought you were being sarcastic in your first response. Now it looks like you actually believe this nonsense.

 

Were you one of the people who thought it wasn't in the Trib's best interest to field a winner?

 

If the Cubs win, they will only get more and more fans. Any thought process that it will shrink is completely absurd.

[CubmanPi]

Honestly, who cares?

 

Let Mark Cuban worry about it.

Fixed for the lack of need for realism in a thread like this.