Should have kept Josh Hamilton

[Little Slide Rooter]

I know there was already a deal worked out when the Cubs drafted him as a rule 5, but its another Cubs what could have been. Sure, nobody knew what hed do, but he was worth a gamble as a former top pick. Did Hendry really think that the likes of Murton, Jones, and Floyd were going to hold down center and right? Oh well. It would have been nice to have another bat like that. Hed have fit perfectly into the 5 spot.

[Derwood]

it's useless to pine over him, as the cubs would have just skipped their pick had the deal not been in place

[Post Count Padder]

Hindsight is 20/20. At the time, Hamilton looked like he was worth a flyer, but no one expected the numbers he has put up this year, especially because of his past troubles and, lest we forget, up until this year, he never went past AA.

[UMFan83]

Why can't we just applaud the Reds for making a good move and then move on.

[Lockes Eye Scar]

if the Cubs kept Josh Hamilton he'd be back in rehab by now

[MPC]

Why can't we just applaud the Reds for making a good move and then move on.

 

i'd prefer if we'd just tip our caps and go get 'em tomorrow.

[E.J.]

I remember Len talking about it on a broadcast when the Cubs were playing the Reds. The Cubs agreed to the deal with the Reds without knowing who the Reds wanted, so it's not like the Cubs picked Hamilton and then agreed to deal him to the Reds. The Reds didn't let the Cubs know that they were to pick Hamilton until it was the Cubs turn to draft, well after they had agreed to the trade.

[Dirt Dog Sparly]

Besides if the Cubs had selected Hamilton and he was hitting .201 .304 .467 the thread wouldnt be about why he was traded. It would be about what a big idiot Hendry is and how thread starter would make a better GM than him.

[CuseCubFan69]

If I remember correctly a member of the Reds organization was the one who once coached/knew Hamilton and thought he could help him focus and stay out of trouble and that's why they traded for him.

[Bruno7481]

If I remember correctly a member of the Reds organization was the one who once coached/knew Hamilton and thought he could help him focus and stay out of trouble and that's why they traded for him.

 

Johnny Narron, Jerry Narron's brother.

 

The Reds, not surprisngly, retained him after jerry Narron was fired.

[NCCubFan]

The Narrons are an eastern North Carolina institution (in fact some of the family lived in the same town I used to live in), and Hamilton is from Raleigh, NC. It's not surprising there would be a connection between Hamilton and the Narrons.

[Mephistopheles]

it would have been a stupid move.

[BigbadB]

Josh Hamilton most definitely was the steal of the Rule 5 draft. However, who could have predicted it? He had never played above A ball and was in more trouble with drugs than any player I can recall. It looked more like the biggest waste of opportunity than just about any other prospect in the game.

 

The Reds are a small market team and can afford to hide a Rule 5 player on their 25 man roster. The Cubs are not the type of team that has the luxury of hiding a gamble at the tail end of their roster.

 

There probably isn't a scout in baseball that would have predicted that Josh Hamilton would outproduce Cliff Floyd this year at the major league level.

[Omar]

LLF, it's really easy to second guess.

 

In that case, we should've kept Lou Brock, Rafael Palmiero, etc.

[Shilzzz]

this again?

 

meh.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

this again?

 

meh.

 

Those were my thoughts as well.

[Yestheydo]

Josh Hamilton most definitely was the steal of the Rule 5 draft. However, who could have predicted it? He had never played above A ball and was in more trouble with drugs than any player I can recall. It looked more like the biggest waste of opportunity than just about any other prospect in the game.

 

The Reds are a small market team and can afford to hide a Rule 5 player on their 25 man roster. The Cubs are not the type of team that has the luxury of hiding a gamble at the tail end of their roster.

 

There probably isn't a scout in baseball that would have predicted that Josh Hamilton would outproduce Cliff Floyd this year at the major league level.

 

Wayne Krivsky?

 

Jared Burton was a pretty good rule 5 pick as well. I only mention this because Krivsky has taken such a beating on this board; he's actually managed to add a nice amount of talent to that team at a negligible cost, but his significant good moves tend to be brushed aside so we can make fun of him for trading obvious studs like Kearns and Lopez away for nothing. He has his flaws but yeah, you gotta give him some credit for recognizing talent.

[reds44]

Josh Hamilton most definitely was the steal of the Rule 5 draft. However, who could have predicted it? He had never played above A ball and was in more trouble with drugs than any player I can recall. It looked more like the biggest waste of opportunity than just about any other prospect in the game.

 

The Reds are a small market team and can afford to hide a Rule 5 player on their 25 man roster. The Cubs are not the type of team that has the luxury of hiding a gamble at the tail end of their roster.

 

There probably isn't a scout in baseball that would have predicted that Josh Hamilton would outproduce Cliff Floyd this year at the major league level.

 

Wayne Krivsky?

 

Jared Burton was a pretty good rule 5 pick as well. I only mention this because Krivsky has taken such a beating on this board; he's actually managed to add a nice amount of talent to that team at a negligible cost, but his significant good moves tend to be brushed aside so we can make fun of him for trading obvious studs like Kearns and Lopez away for nothing. He has his flaws but yeah, you gotta give him some credit for recognizing talent.

Lopez: .244/.306/.356

Kearns: .267/.350/.407

 

Replaced with:

Gonzalez: .277/.330/.478

Hamilton: .297/.374/.566

 

Who would you rather have?

[illiniguy]

Josh Hamilton most definitely was the steal of the Rule 5 draft. However, who could have predicted it? He had never played above A ball and was in more trouble with drugs than any player I can recall. It looked more like the biggest waste of opportunity than just about any other prospect in the game.

 

The Reds are a small market team and can afford to hide a Rule 5 player on their 25 man roster. The Cubs are not the type of team that has the luxury of hiding a gamble at the tail end of their roster.

 

There probably isn't a scout in baseball that would have predicted that Josh Hamilton would outproduce Cliff Floyd this year at the major league level.

 

Wayne Krivsky?

 

Jared Burton was a pretty good rule 5 pick as well. I only mention this because Krivsky has taken such a beating on this board; he's actually managed to add a nice amount of talent to that team at a negligible cost, but his significant good moves tend to be brushed aside so we can make fun of him for trading obvious studs like Kearns and Lopez away for nothing. He has his flaws but yeah, you gotta give him some credit for recognizing talent.

Lopez: .244/.306/.356

Kearns: .267/.350/.407

 

Replaced with:

Gonzalez: .277/.330/.478

Hamilton: .297/.374/.566

 

Who would you rather have?

How much of that is your ballpark vs. RFK?

[reds44]

Josh Hamilton most definitely was the steal of the Rule 5 draft. However, who could have predicted it? He had never played above A ball and was in more trouble with drugs than any player I can recall. It looked more like the biggest waste of opportunity than just about any other prospect in the game.

 

The Reds are a small market team and can afford to hide a Rule 5 player on their 25 man roster. The Cubs are not the type of team that has the luxury of hiding a gamble at the tail end of their roster.

 

There probably isn't a scout in baseball that would have predicted that Josh Hamilton would outproduce Cliff Floyd this year at the major league level.

 

Wayne Krivsky?

 

Jared Burton was a pretty good rule 5 pick as well. I only mention this because Krivsky has taken such a beating on this board; he's actually managed to add a nice amount of talent to that team at a negligible cost, but his significant good moves tend to be brushed aside so we can make fun of him for trading obvious studs like Kearns and Lopez away for nothing. He has his flaws but yeah, you gotta give him some credit for recognizing talent.

Lopez: .244/.306/.356

Kearns: .267/.350/.407

 

Replaced with:

Gonzalez: .277/.330/.478

Hamilton: .297/.374/.566

 

Who would you rather have?

How much of that is your ballpark vs. RFK?

Not enough to make up the entire difference between each group.

[illiniguy]

Josh Hamilton most definitely was the steal of the Rule 5 draft. However, who could have predicted it? He had never played above A ball and was in more trouble with drugs than any player I can recall. It looked more like the biggest waste of opportunity than just about any other prospect in the game.

 

The Reds are a small market team and can afford to hide a Rule 5 player on their 25 man roster. The Cubs are not the type of team that has the luxury of hiding a gamble at the tail end of their roster.

 

There probably isn't a scout in baseball that would have predicted that Josh Hamilton would outproduce Cliff Floyd this year at the major league level.

 

Wayne Krivsky?

 

Jared Burton was a pretty good rule 5 pick as well. I only mention this because Krivsky has taken such a beating on this board; he's actually managed to add a nice amount of talent to that team at a negligible cost, but his significant good moves tend to be brushed aside so we can make fun of him for trading obvious studs like Kearns and Lopez away for nothing. He has his flaws but yeah, you gotta give him some credit for recognizing talent.

Lopez: .244/.306/.356

Kearns: .267/.350/.407

 

Replaced with:

Gonzalez: .277/.330/.478

Hamilton: .297/.374/.566

 

Who would you rather have?

How much of that is your ballpark vs. RFK?

Not enough to make up the entire difference between each group.

Fair enough, but I would rather have Hamilton and Lopez on a year to year basis.

[Yestheydo]

Josh Hamilton most definitely was the steal of the Rule 5 draft. However, who could have predicted it? He had never played above A ball and was in more trouble with drugs than any player I can recall. It looked more like the biggest waste of opportunity than just about any other prospect in the game.

 

The Reds are a small market team and can afford to hide a Rule 5 player on their 25 man roster. The Cubs are not the type of team that has the luxury of hiding a gamble at the tail end of their roster.

 

There probably isn't a scout in baseball that would have predicted that Josh Hamilton would outproduce Cliff Floyd this year at the major league level.

 

Wayne Krivsky?

 

Jared Burton was a pretty good rule 5 pick as well. I only mention this because Krivsky has taken such a beating on this board; he's actually managed to add a nice amount of talent to that team at a negligible cost, but his significant good moves tend to be brushed aside so we can make fun of him for trading obvious studs like Kearns and Lopez away for nothing. He has his flaws but yeah, you gotta give him some credit for recognizing talent.

Lopez: .244/.306/.356

Kearns: .267/.350/.407

 

Replaced with:

Gonzalez: .277/.330/.478

Hamilton: .297/.374/.566

 

Who would you rather have?

Sorry; I should know sarcasm doesn't translate well here. I'm not a huge Krivsky fan but that has more to do with guys like Stanton and Cormier rather than "the trade", which I never thought was that bad. Lopez was brutal at SS. Kearns wasn't that great. Both Majewski and Bray look to be useful, and Daryl Thompson had a pretty good year. I think Cub fans just love to rail on Krivsky cause there aren't that many GMs they consider worse than Jim Hendry out there. But like I said, he's brought in a lot of talent in a short period of time.

[Derwood]

who did we get for the pick again?

[Brian]

money

[Guest]

money

On the bright side, he's been tearing up AA this year.