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8/23 Cubs (Zambrano) at Giants (Cain) 2:35 PM CT, WGN

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The zone has certainly changed. Z didn't get alot of the same calls Wilson and Hennessey are getting.

 

Oh well, I can go to bed tonight knowing the Cubs are still in first and we won the series.

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Lee takes strikes and swings at garbage. I would rather not have to pay him the next few years than Z.

 

Good think you're not paying him then....the Cubs are.

 

He's still one of the best first baseman in the league.

Really? You really think he is? I would rather have at least two other guys in our division.

 

Sure, Pujols and Fielder are better offensive players right now. But I said one of the best in the league, not THE best. In fact, he's still one of the best in the majors.

 

Pujols, Fielder, Howard, and Maurneau.....who else is better? Maybe Texeira. He's certainly one of the best.

Hafner, Adrian Gonzalez, Carlos Pena

 

Hafner hasnt played 1st base since little league, Carlos Pena is not better than lee, at least not overall

Great Lee is sliding and we are on the hook for a few more years. If this year is a blip on the radar and his power comes back it isn't as big of a deal. But, if he has become a guy who hits .300 with 15-18 homers we are paying him too much money.

Handlebar McSkullet First Round Pick

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Lee takes strikes and swings at garbage. I would rather not have to pay him the next few years than Z.

 

Good think you're not paying him then....the Cubs are.

 

He's still one of the best first baseman in the league.

Really? You really think he is? I would rather have at least two other guys in our division.

 

Sure, Pujols and Fielder are better offensive players right now. But I said one of the best in the league, not THE best. In fact, he's still one of the best in the majors.

 

Pujols, Fielder, Howard, and Maurneau.....who else is better? Maybe Texeira. He's certainly one of the best.

Hafner, Adrian Gonzalez, Carlos Pena

 

Hafner hasnt played 1st base since little league, Carlos Pena is not better than lee, at least not overall

 

Pujols, Fielder, Morneau, Gonazales, then probably Lee.

RyCubsFan Draft Eligible

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Lee takes strikes and swings at garbage. I would rather not have to pay him the next few years than Z.

 

Good think you're not paying him then....the Cubs are.

 

He's still one of the best first baseman in the league.

Really? You really think he is? I would rather have at least two other guys in our division.

 

Sure, Pujols and Fielder are better offensive players right now. But I said one of the best in the league, not THE best. In fact, he's still one of the best in the majors.

 

Pujols, Fielder, Howard, and Maurneau.....who else is better? Maybe Texeira. He's certainly one of the best.

Hafner, Adrian Gonzalez, Carlos Pena

 

You'd trade him for them? I sure wouldn't.

 

Is it Gonz .342 OBP that you like? (vs. Lee's who's above .400)

Or perhaps Hafner's .436 slugging? He's more of a DH anyway.

Pena's having a career year.

illiniguy Knoxville Smokies

illiniguy

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Lee takes strikes and swings at garbage. I would rather not have to pay him the next few years than Z.

 

Good think you're not paying him then....the Cubs are.

 

He's still one of the best first baseman in the league.

Really? You really think he is? I would rather have at least two other guys in our division.

 

Sure, Pujols and Fielder are better offensive players right now. But I said one of the best in the league, not THE best. In fact, he's still one of the best in the majors.

 

Pujols, Fielder, Howard, and Maurneau.....who else is better? Maybe Texeira. He's certainly one of the best.

Hafner, Adrian Gonzalez, Carlos Pena

 

Hafner hasnt played 1st base since little league, Carlos Pena is not better than lee, at least not overall

 

Pujols, Fielder, Morneau, Gonazales, then probably Lee.

You think Lee is better than Ryan Howard?

illiniguy Knoxville Smokies

illiniguy

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Lee takes strikes and swings at garbage. I would rather not have to pay him the next few years than Z.

 

Good think you're not paying him then....the Cubs are.

 

He's still one of the best first baseman in the league.

Really? You really think he is? I would rather have at least two other guys in our division.

 

Sure, Pujols and Fielder are better offensive players right now. But I said one of the best in the league, not THE best. In fact, he's still one of the best in the majors.

 

Pujols, Fielder, Howard, and Maurneau.....who else is better? Maybe Texeira. He's certainly one of the best.

Hafner, Adrian Gonzalez, Carlos Pena

 

You'd trade him for them? I sure wouldn't.

 

Is it Gonz .342 OBP that you like? (vs. Lee's who's above .400)

Or perhaps Hafner's .436 slugging? He's more of a DH anyway.

Pena's having a career year.

For the money Adrian and Pena are making vs. Lee I would think about it. If, and its a big one I could use that money to get an outfielder or two who produce at a big league level.

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Gonzalez isn't better than Lee by any measurement. He has a .342 OBP...that can't touch Derick! His extra 6 dingers don't make up that difference.
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Lee takes strikes and swings at garbage. I would rather not have to pay him the next few years than Z.

 

Good think you're not paying him then....the Cubs are.

 

He's still one of the best first baseman in the league.

Really? You really think he is? I would rather have at least two other guys in our division.

 

Sure, Pujols and Fielder are better offensive players right now. But I said one of the best in the league, not THE best. In fact, he's still one of the best in the majors.

 

Pujols, Fielder, Howard, and Maurneau.....who else is better? Maybe Texeira. He's certainly one of the best.

Hafner, Adrian Gonzalez, Carlos Pena

 

Hafner hasnt played 1st base since little league, Carlos Pena is not better than lee, at least not overall

 

Pujols, Fielder, Morneau, Gonazales, then probably Lee.

You think Lee is better than Ryan Howard?

 

oh for crying out loud, you know i forgot howard.

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Lee takes strikes and swings at garbage. I would rather not have to pay him the next few years than Z.

 

Good think you're not paying him then....the Cubs are.

 

He's still one of the best first baseman in the league.

Really? You really think he is? I would rather have at least two other guys in our division.

 

Sure, Pujols and Fielder are better offensive players right now. But I said one of the best in the league, not THE best. In fact, he's still one of the best in the majors.

 

Pujols, Fielder, Howard, and Maurneau.....who else is better? Maybe Texeira. He's certainly one of the best.

Hafner, Adrian Gonzalez, Carlos Pena

 

You'd trade him for them? I sure wouldn't.

 

Is it Gonz .342 OBP that you like? (vs. Lee's who's above .400)

Or perhaps Hafner's .436 slugging? He's more of a DH anyway.

Pena's having a career year.

For the money Adrian and Pena are making vs. Lee I would think about it. If, and its a big one I could use that money to get an outfielder or two who produce at a big league level.

 

 

Hell, you can usually find some young guy having a fine year who is cheap at every position and make the same statement. I'll take DLee on my team every day of the week.

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Lee takes strikes and swings at garbage. I would rather not have to pay him the next few years than Z.

 

Good think you're not paying him then....the Cubs are.

 

He's still one of the best first baseman in the league.

Really? You really think he is? I would rather have at least two other guys in our division.

 

Sure, Pujols and Fielder are better offensive players right now. But I said one of the best in the league, not THE best. In fact, he's still one of the best in the majors.

 

Pujols, Fielder, Howard, and Maurneau.....who else is better? Maybe Texeira. He's certainly one of the best.

Hafner, Adrian Gonzalez, Carlos Pena

 

You'd trade him for them? I sure wouldn't.

 

Is it Gonz .342 OBP that you like? (vs. Lee's who's above .400)

Or perhaps Hafner's .436 slugging? He's more of a DH anyway.

Pena's having a career year.

For the money Adrian and Pena are making vs. Lee I would think about it. If, and its a big one I could use that money to get an outfielder or two who produce at a big league level.

 

 

Yeah, but then'd you complain that the 10 mil outfielder is a waste because there's someone else in the league who's cheaper putting up numbers almost as good.

 

Bottom line is that Lee is NOT the problem on this team. It's odd to call him out.

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I don't necessarily think it would have made much of difference, but did the ump tick anyone else off? He was awful - lots of sliders off the plate called for strikes, it seems.
illiniguy Knoxville Smokies

illiniguy

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Lee takes strikes and swings at garbage. I would rather not have to pay him the next few years than Z.

 

Good think you're not paying him then....the Cubs are.

 

He's still one of the best first baseman in the league.

Really? You really think he is? I would rather have at least two other guys in our division.

 

Sure, Pujols and Fielder are better offensive players right now. But I said one of the best in the league, not THE best. In fact, he's still one of the best in the majors.

 

Pujols, Fielder, Howard, and Maurneau.....who else is better? Maybe Texeira. He's certainly one of the best.

Hafner, Adrian Gonzalez, Carlos Pena

 

Hafner hasnt played 1st base since little league, Carlos Pena is not better than lee, at least not overall

 

Pujols, Fielder, Morneau, Gonazales, then probably Lee.

 

You think Lee is better than Ryan Howard?

 

oh for crying out loud, you know i forgot howard.

Well I assumed you did, but I thought maybe you were really holding his d against him.
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another "tip your cap to the opposing pitcher" game

 

I'm fine with them when the pitcher has ace stuff and it seems like no team in baseball could get a runner in scoring position off of him.

 

However, when the pitcher is responsible for a lion's share of the other team's offense, I tend to be a bit more cynical.

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another "tip your cap to the opposing pitcher" game

 

I'm fine with them when the pitcher has ace stuff and it seems like no team in baseball could get a runner in scoring position off of him.

 

However, when the pitcher is responsible for a lion's share of the other team's offense, I tend to be a bit more cynical.

 

Cain did not have "ace stuff" today, he pitched well enough, but the Cubs did not execute.

E.J. Chicago Cubs

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Just got home from work. Saw the Cubs couldn't put any more runs on the board. More importantly, there are tons of trees down in my neighborhood and in front of my apartment. Some unlucky bastard now has a huge tree branch in the back of his Jeep. Looks like more storms are coming. Kind of scary stuff.
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Oh man this was such a frustrating game, the Cubs could have/should have easily won:

 

1. Daryle Ward getting picked off - he would have scored due to what happened after. Thats 1 run

 

2. Cain knocks down DeRosa's liner 1/50 times. That's 2 runs if it gets into CF

 

3. Z makes a better pitch to Cain = no HR

 

4. Murton doesn't swing at the first pitch, Cubs likely score again due to Theriot's proceeding double.

 

That's 3 runs we should have had.

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