Levine: Cubs are happy with what they got

[David]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

I see your point, but who's to say this roster can't keep pushing to more games over .500?

 

Well the fact that we are getting no production out of C, and below league average at SS, CF, and RF, doesnt really instill alot of confidence. We had our big hot streak, and I think now its more likely to see win 3 lose 2 and vice versa the rest of the way.

 

Win 3, lose 2 = .600 winning percentage.

 

Just sayin... (and yes, I saw the vice-versa)

[TysonCBulls423]

Well the World Series includes one AL team and one NL team. Baseball is nothing like basketball where the best team will win most of the time. When you get to the playoffs, anything can happen.

 

 

Also, we aren't the ones working the phones so whos there to say it's right there for the taking.

[Keener98]

Well the World Series includes one AL team and one NL team. Baseball is nothing like basketball where the best team will win most of the time. When you get to the playoffs, anything can happen.

 

Thanks for telling me 1 team from each league is in the WS I never would have know that without that insight. My point is Id rather not hope we are just good enough to get into the playoffs. 1 big bat in this lineup, and I feel we could be the best team in the NL, and possibly top 3-5 in the majors.

[Bruce Miles]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

Team isn't exactly hovering around .500 anymore...

 

check the standings you are wrong. They are yet to reach 10 over, all it takes is a 3-4 game losing streak and they are right back down there.

 

Add a 4 or 5 game winning streak and they have the best record in the NL. Gotta look at it both ways...

 

Having the best record in the NL, is kind of like having the best tasting poop. Id rather push us to being a top team in the Majors, but if just hopeing to make the playoffs is ok with you then thats fine. I have a little higher standards, and its right there for the taking, but instead Hendry would rather sit back and "hope".

 

What regular-season record won the World Series last year? And it still takes two teams to make a deal. The asking prices have been ridiculous, and the Cubs don't have to give up some of those players to get a little better here or there.

[Keener98]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

I see your point, but who's to say this roster can't keep pushing to more games over .500?

 

Well the fact that we are getting no production out of C, and below league average at SS, CF, and RF, doesnt really instill alot of confidence. We had our big hot streak, and I think now its more likely to see win 3 lose 2 and vice versa the rest of the way.

 

Win 3, lose 2 = .600 winning percentage.

 

Just sayin... (and yes, I saw the vice-versa)

 

Right and I know you said you seen the vice versa which would make us a .500 team give or take a few.

[Bruno7481]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

Team isn't exactly hovering around .500 anymore...

 

check the standings you are wrong. They are yet to reach 10 over, all it takes is a 3-4 game losing streak and they are right back down there.

 

Add a 4 or 5 game winning streak and they have the best record in the NL. Gotta look at it both ways...

 

Having the best record in the NL, is kind of like having the best tasting poop. Id rather push us to being a top team in the Majors, but if just hopeing to make the playoffs is ok with you then thats fine. I have a little higher standards, and its right there for the taking, but instead Hendry would rather sit back and "hope".

 

I love posts like this. You have absolutely NO idea what Hendry has looked into and what trade opportunities he has explored. We are still 20+ hours away from the deadline. Who knows what he may be looking at.

 

This isn't a defense of Hendry, but to emphatically state he's "hoping" without having any idea what he may be up to is silly.

[Bruno7481]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

Team isn't exactly hovering around .500 anymore...

 

check the standings you are wrong. They are yet to reach 10 over, all it takes is a 3-4 game losing streak and they are right back down there.

 

Add a 4 or 5 game winning streak and they have the best record in the NL. Gotta look at it both ways...

 

Having the best record in the NL, is kind of like having the best tasting poop. Id rather push us to being a top team in the Majors, but if just hopeing to make the playoffs is ok with you then thats fine. I have a little higher standards, and its right there for the taking, but instead Hendry would rather sit back and "hope".

 

What regular-season record won the World Series last year? And it still takes two teams to make a deal. The asking prices have been ridiculous, and the Cubs don't have to give up some of those players to get a little better here or there.

 

Come on Bruce, you know its more fun to just rip people without actual knowledge and reason.

 

by the way were you staying at the Marriott in Covington for the Cincy series? I thought I saw you. I was staying there as well.

Edited July 30, 2007 by Bruno7481

[Keener98]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

Team isn't exactly hovering around .500 anymore...

 

check the standings you are wrong. They are yet to reach 10 over, all it takes is a 3-4 game losing streak and they are right back down there.

 

Add a 4 or 5 game winning streak and they have the best record in the NL. Gotta look at it both ways...

 

Having the best record in the NL, is kind of like having the best tasting poop. Id rather push us to being a top team in the Majors, but if just hopeing to make the playoffs is ok with you then thats fine. I have a little higher standards, and its right there for the taking, but instead Hendry would rather sit back and "hope".

 

What regular-season record won the World Series last year? And it still takes two teams to make a deal. The asking prices have been ridiculous, and the Cubs don't have to give up some of those players to get a little better here or there.

 

I know the regular season record doesnt matter once you get into the playoffs. But this offense is very susceptible to disappearing, and 1 big bat could go along way in helping that. I understand about asking prices being ridiculous, but this team could use some help. It seems like Hendry is perfectly fine with this roster, and this roster has major flaws.

[Lockes Eye Scar]

did he actually say "got" :?:

[Keener98]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

Team isn't exactly hovering around .500 anymore...

 

check the standings you are wrong. They are yet to reach 10 over, all it takes is a 3-4 game losing streak and they are right back down there.

 

Add a 4 or 5 game winning streak and they have the best record in the NL. Gotta look at it both ways...

 

Having the best record in the NL, is kind of like having the best tasting poop. Id rather push us to being a top team in the Majors, but if just hopeing to make the playoffs is ok with you then thats fine. I have a little higher standards, and its right there for the taking, but instead Hendry would rather sit back and "hope".

 

What regular-season record won the World Series last year? And it still takes two teams to make a deal. The asking prices have been ridiculous, and the Cubs don't have to give up some of those players to get a little better here or there.

 

Come on Bruce, you know its more fun to just rip people without actual knowledge and reason.

 

On a side not, were you staying at the Marriott in Covington for the Cincy series? I thought I saw you. I was staying there as well.

 

Sorry I look at things without my blue kool aid glasses like you do all the time. You defend everything Hendry, Lou or whoever else in this organization, and thats fine if you like mediocrity.

[Keener98]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

Team isn't exactly hovering around .500 anymore...

 

check the standings you are wrong. They are yet to reach 10 over, all it takes is a 3-4 game losing streak and they are right back down there.

 

Add a 4 or 5 game winning streak and they have the best record in the NL. Gotta look at it both ways...

 

Having the best record in the NL, is kind of like having the best tasting poop. Id rather push us to being a top team in the Majors, but if just hopeing to make the playoffs is ok with you then thats fine. I have a little higher standards, and its right there for the taking, but instead Hendry would rather sit back and "hope".

 

I love posts like this. You have absolutely NO idea what Hendry has looked into and what trade opportunities he has explored. We are still 20+ hours away from the deadline. Who knows what he may be looking at.

 

This isn't a defense of Hendry, but to emphatically state he's "hoping" without having any idea what he may be up to is silly.

 

Im going off Bruces statement that he sees no deals being made, reading is comprehension.

[Bruno7481]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

Team isn't exactly hovering around .500 anymore...

 

check the standings you are wrong. They are yet to reach 10 over, all it takes is a 3-4 game losing streak and they are right back down there.

 

Add a 4 or 5 game winning streak and they have the best record in the NL. Gotta look at it both ways...

 

Having the best record in the NL, is kind of like having the best tasting poop. Id rather push us to being a top team in the Majors, but if just hopeing to make the playoffs is ok with you then thats fine. I have a little higher standards, and its right there for the taking, but instead Hendry would rather sit back and "hope".

 

I love posts like this. You have absolutely NO idea what Hendry has looked into and what trade opportunities he has explored. We are still 20+ hours away from the deadline. Who knows what he may be looking at.

 

This isn't a defense of Hendry, but to emphatically state he's "hoping" without having any idea what he may be up to is silly.

 

Im going off Bruces statement that he sees no deals being made, reading is comprehension.

 

Thanks smartguy. Point still stands though. Nobody knows what the options are right now but Hendry, to assume otherwise is ridiculous.

[NCCubFan]

It seems like Hendry is perfectly fine with this roster, and this roster has major flaws.

Being "perfectly fine" with the roster doesn't mean that Hendry doesn't recognize that there are weaknesses. It could simply be that he thinks what's available at the moment costs too much to be worthwhile.

[Flames24Rulz]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

Team isn't exactly hovering around .500 anymore...

 

check the standings you are wrong. They are yet to reach 10 over, all it takes is a 3-4 game losing streak and they are right back down there.

 

Add a 4 or 5 game winning streak and they have the best record in the NL. Gotta look at it both ways...

 

Having the best record in the NL, is kind of like having the best tasting poop. Id rather push us to being a top team in the Majors, but if just hopeing to make the playoffs is ok with you then thats fine. I have a little higher standards, and its right there for the taking, but instead Hendry would rather sit back and "hope".

 

What regular-season record won the World Series last year? And it still takes two teams to make a deal. The asking prices have been ridiculous, and the Cubs don't have to give up some of those players to get a little better here or there.

 

Bruce, what was your overall feeling of what Hendry would do on July 30, 2004? Was it anything at all comparable to what is going on this year in the case that we're only rumored to get spare parts instead of being involved in a blockbuster deal? Of course, we got Nomar the day later, but I just want to know if you think something could happen like that this year with someone like Griffey.

 

I continue to keep the false hope alive that we can make some sort of a big splash...

[da bears]

i for one dont understand general managers like the one cincy's got. yeah, yeah i know griffey is going for the record, but he will never be as valuable as he is now, why not fully take advantage of it? personally, if the reds hold onto griffey, they're really dumb. id love to see him on the cubs, but even if he goes elsewhere, its probably best for the reds to try and get the most they can for him at a reasonable price.

[JC]

This comment has no reflection on Bruce, as I tend to believe him to a fault. Just as a general observation, it seems that Hendry's supporters have always touted his ability to keep things "close to the vest". In this case, I hope that is true. I think Griffey would look exceptional in RF for the push. Or, at the very least, give Zambrano his freaking money.

 

I don't want to see some retread crap player just for the sake of making a trade. I wouldn't move Pie, but I'd consider a package of nearly anyone else in the minors. I have always saw a little Soriano in Pie.

[Bruno7481]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

Team isn't exactly hovering around .500 anymore...

 

check the standings you are wrong. They are yet to reach 10 over, all it takes is a 3-4 game losing streak and they are right back down there.

 

Add a 4 or 5 game winning streak and they have the best record in the NL. Gotta look at it both ways...

 

Having the best record in the NL, is kind of like having the best tasting poop. Id rather push us to being a top team in the Majors, but if just hopeing to make the playoffs is ok with you then thats fine. I have a little higher standards, and its right there for the taking, but instead Hendry would rather sit back and "hope".

 

What regular-season record won the World Series last year? And it still takes two teams to make a deal. The asking prices have been ridiculous, and the Cubs don't have to give up some of those players to get a little better here or there.

 

Come on Bruce, you know its more fun to just rip people without actual knowledge and reason.

 

On a side not, were you staying at the Marriott in Covington for the Cincy series? I thought I saw you. I was staying there as well.

 

Sorry I look at things without my blue kool aid glasses like you do all the time. You defend everything Hendry, Lou or whoever else in this organization, and thats fine if you like mediocrity.

 

I do? Thats news to me.

 

It wasn't a defense of Hendry at all. Just pointing out that none of us know what he's got in mind at this point. Until the deadline passes its hard to judge don't you think?

[Bruno7481]

It seems like Hendry is perfectly fine with this roster, and this roster has major flaws.

Being "perfectly fine" with the roster doesn't mean that Hendry doesn't recognize that there are weaknesses. It could simply be that he thinks what's available at the moment costs too much to be worthwhile.

 

You must be a Kool-aid drinker too

 

:wink:

 

You made the point I was trying to make in a better way.

[TysonCBulls423]

This quote was also with the Pie is staying article.

 

"Every team in baseball that's in contention is looking to improve somehow. But I think it's more curiosity to see what's out there. Although some teams have done some nice things, like Atlanta, adding a really nice bat at first base (in acquiring Mark Teixeira from Texas) and Philly just added a pitcher (acquiring Cincinnati's Kyle Lohse). We'll see what happens. Jim is working hard, and that's his area."

 

(Sweet Lou)

[Bruce Miles]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

Team isn't exactly hovering around .500 anymore...

 

check the standings you are wrong. They are yet to reach 10 over, all it takes is a 3-4 game losing streak and they are right back down there.

 

Add a 4 or 5 game winning streak and they have the best record in the NL. Gotta look at it both ways...

 

Having the best record in the NL, is kind of like having the best tasting poop. Id rather push us to being a top team in the Majors, but if just hopeing to make the playoffs is ok with you then thats fine. I have a little higher standards, and its right there for the taking, but instead Hendry would rather sit back and "hope".

 

What regular-season record won the World Series last year? And it still takes two teams to make a deal. The asking prices have been ridiculous, and the Cubs don't have to give up some of those players to get a little better here or there.

 

Come on Bruce, you know its more fun to just rip people without actual knowledge and reason.

 

by the way were you staying at the Marriott in Covington for the Cincy series? I thought I saw you. I was staying there as well.

[Bruno7481]

i for one dont understand general managers like the one cincy's got. yeah, yeah i know griffey is going for the record, but he will never be as valuable as he is now, why not fully take advantage of it? personally, if the reds hold onto griffey, they're really dumb. id love to see him on the cubs, but even if he goes elsewhere, its probably best for the reds to try and get the most they can for him at a reasonable price.

 

Is it dumb if he is basically the only reason they are drawing any kind of crowds at all?

 

Maybe the owner doesn't want him traded, might not be fair to put it all on Krivsky.

[da bears]

i for one dont understand general managers like the one cincy's got. yeah, yeah i know griffey is going for the record, but he will never be as valuable as he is now, why not fully take advantage of it? personally, if the reds hold onto griffey, they're really dumb. id love to see him on the cubs, but even if he goes elsewhere, its probably best for the reds to try and get the most they can for him at a reasonable price.

 

Is it dumb if he is basically the only reason they are drawing any kind of crowds at all?

 

Maybe the owner doesn't want him traded, might not be fair to put it all on Krivsky.

 

true, but i think its a bad business decision long term to hold on to him. short term its the only thing keeping this franchise from averaging 10,000 a game this year, but long term theyd be better off getting as much as they can for him.

 

plus, id like to see griffey play some meaningful baseball in september.

Edited July 30, 2007 by da bears

[Bruce Miles]

Hendry was quite forceful in saying Pie won't be moved. If they do anything at all, it won't be of the blockbuster variety. (Subject to change, with last-minute phone calls, of course.)

 

well so much for pushing us over the top, I guess Hendry would rather settle for being right around .500 and hopeing to make the playoffs instead of making a move to push us over the top.

 

Team isn't exactly hovering around .500 anymore...

 

check the standings you are wrong. They are yet to reach 10 over, all it takes is a 3-4 game losing streak and they are right back down there.

 

Add a 4 or 5 game winning streak and they have the best record in the NL. Gotta look at it both ways...

 

Having the best record in the NL, is kind of like having the best tasting poop. Id rather push us to being a top team in the Majors, but if just hopeing to make the playoffs is ok with you then thats fine. I have a little higher standards, and its right there for the taking, but instead Hendry would rather sit back and "hope".

 

 

 

What regular-season record won the World Series last year? And it still takes two teams to make a deal. The asking prices have been ridiculous, and the Cubs don't have to give up some of those players to get a little better here or there.

 

Bruce, what was your overall feeling of what Hendry would do on July 30, 2004? Was it anything at all comparable to what is going on this year in the case that we're only rumored to get spare parts instead of being involved in a blockbuster deal? Of course, we got Nomar the day later, but I just want to know if you think something could happen like that this year with someone like Griffey.

 

I continue to keep the false hope alive that we can make some sort of a big splash...

 

It looked like they were going to get Cabrera to play short that day. I see nothing of a Nomar-type trade (read Griffey) happening tomorrow.

[Magnetic Curses]

i ahevnt' read this threat...at all, but if standing pat right now means that we'll be able to sign zambrano long term, then i say we're fine this year.

 

if hendry is unable to make a decent deal AND we lose z, i will be very very disappointed in all of this.

 

but i like the idea of continuing to go with both marshall and hill in the rotation for the forseeable future--with pie in cf, cedeno at ss, and soto catching next season. i wouldn't mind finding a place for murton either, and that would balance out the roster and make the team somewhat affordable for the new ownership, if that's what they're looking for.

[maandig]

I don't get the anger to the news that the Cubs might be sitting pat. The Cubs have added star players/bats over the last few years that were intended to get them over the hump and into the playoffs who ended up having little discernable impact on the team's fortunes (Nomar; McGriff), while in 2003 were successful by adding what were considered marginal but were integral to the team's brilliant year (Karros; Simon; Womack; excepting Lofton).

 

If this team goes past the non-waiver trading deadline and doesn't add anyone, what's the problem? Does the team have holes? Sure. Do the holes preclude them from competing for a championship? No. Do the holes mean that Hendry ought to find a way to mortgage the future of the club for a good additional outfield bat or another arm? No. If the Cubs get through tomorrow without making a deal, I'm pumped. Let Hendry figure out what might be added to the team in terms of a veteran right-handed off the bench in August, there is no reason anything has to be done now.