Calm Before the Storm....

[Derwood]

.....or Clear Skies Ahead?

 

I know it's a Sunday night, so the GM's may not be working the phones as much as they will tomorrow, but there has been a significant lack of trade buzz. Sure, a small deal here or there has come and gone, but no "Big Unit to Houston" or "Nomar to the Cubs" level buzz. Is this just the calm before some big things go down the next two days, or will the deadline come and go without incident?

[Butterscup1679666578]

.....or Clear Skies Ahead?

 

I know it's a Sunday night, so the GM's may not be working the phones as much as they will tomorrow, but there has been a significant lack of trade buzz. Sure, a small deal here or there has come and gone, but no "Big Unit to Houston" or "Nomar to the Cubs" level buzz. Is this just the calm before some big things go down the next two days, or will the deadline come and go without incident?

 

I have a strong sense of optimism that Hendry is going to land Griffey, and I also have an equally strong feeling of sickness that Hendry is going to either stand pat, or worse, get someone like Payton.

[italianocubsfan7]

I hope the Cubs get Gagne or Griffey

[Derwood]

I hope the Cubs get Gagne or Griffey

 

welcome to the board

 

gagne's name hasn't been linked with the cubs much (if at all). griffey would be great, but i'm not getting my hopes up

[Lockes Eye Scar]

the biggest trade is going to be "Texcantspellhisiera to the Braves for Salty"

 

that's about it.

Edited July 30, 2007 by Locke's Eye Scar

[seanimal]

Yeah, this will be an interesting next couple of days. It could go either way.

[inari]

the biggest trade is going to be "Texcantspellhisiera to the Braves for Salty"

 

that's about it.

 

Without looking, Teixera. I think that's right.

 

Anyways, I've got an odd feeling we're going to get Griffey. Anyone who has seen me talk about the Cubs knows I'm far from an optimist, but my gut tells me that the kid will be in a Cubs uniform by Tuesday.

[JWCUB]

This whole Griffey thing kinda has the same feel as the Nomar trade. Small talk here, small take there, but nobody actually thought it would happen. I'm not sure either way. I get the feeling we get Griffey, or do nothing. The exact same feeling I had before Nomar......

[rickrolled]

the biggest trade is going to be "Texcantspellhisiera to the Braves for Salty"

 

that's about it.

 

Without looking, Teixera. I think that's right.

 

Anyways, I've got an odd feeling we're going to get Griffey. Anyone who has seen me talk about the Cubs knows I'm far from an optimist, but my gut tells me that the kid will be in a Cubs uniform by Tuesday.

 

I kinda have that feeling too...it's been kinda quiet lately but that tidbit from the Trib got me thinking they're going for Griffey, as did the report on ESPN 1000. keeping fingers crossed

[shnsajax]

the biggest trade is going to be "Texcantspellhisiera to the Braves for Salty"

 

that's about it.

 

Without looking, Teixera. I think that's right.

 

Anyways, I've got an odd feeling we're going to get Griffey. Anyone who has seen me talk about the Cubs knows I'm far from an optimist, but my gut tells me that the kid will be in a Cubs uniform by Tuesday.

 

Teixeira. ei and another ei.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

two I's, Teixeira, tripped me up for the longest time

 

 

I just now read about that ESPN 1000 report in the Griffey thread. I hoped that we might look into him, but never anything truly substantial until then. Still may be Levine's rumor mongering, but it's enough for me to have some optimism that we may land him.

[Bruno7481]

I'd love to see Griffey to the Cubs, but someone has to give me a legitimate reason as to why the Reds would trade him. He's about the only reason the Reds draw any fans, they want to see him reach 600 HR.

 

I think the backlash would be terrible in Cincy. They might be able to live with it if they sent him back to the AL, even Seatlle, but to the Cubs? In the same division?

 

I just don't see it as a realistic possibillity.

[TysonCBulls423]

These Peter Gammons trade updates are getting me giddy but nothing about the CUBS

[italianocubsfan7]

ESPN Radio 1000 is reporting something?

[BCVM22]

edit: never mind. teach me to not read the whole thread. Edited July 30, 2007 by BCVM22

[rickrolled]

ESPN Radio 1000 is reporting something?

 

According to the "BP tidbits about Griffey" thread, ESPN 1000 reported yesterday there is a deal brewing between the Cubs/Reds for Griffey, and Murton/Pie could be involved.

[XZero771679666304]

I'd love to see Griffey to the Cubs, but someone has to give me a legitimate reason as to why the Reds would trade him. He's about the only reason the Reds draw any fans, they want to see him reach 600 HR.

 

I think the backlash would be terrible in Cincy. They might be able to live with it if they sent him back to the AL, even Seatlle, but to the Cubs? In the same division?

 

I just don't see it as a realistic possibillity.

 

Why would the Reds trade him? Because they are going nowhere, the market is thin, and Griffey's value will never be higher.

 

They'd be fools to hang on to him.

[witty alias]

the biggest trade is going to be "Texcantspellhisiera to the Braves for Salty"

 

that's about it.

 

Without looking, Teixera. I think that's right.

 

Anyways, I've got an odd feeling we're going to get Griffey. Anyone who has seen me talk about the Cubs knows I'm far from an optimist, but my gut tells me that the kid will be in a Cubs uniform by Tuesday.

 

I kinda have that feeling too...it's been kinda quiet lately but that tidbit from the Trib got me thinking they're going for Griffey, as did the report on ESPN 1000. keeping fingers crossed

 

What was the ESPN 1000 report?

[rickrolled]

the biggest trade is going to be "Texcantspellhisiera to the Braves for Salty"

 

that's about it.

 

Without looking, Teixera. I think that's right.

 

Anyways, I've got an odd feeling we're going to get Griffey. Anyone who has seen me talk about the Cubs knows I'm far from an optimist, but my gut tells me that the kid will be in a Cubs uniform by Tuesday.

 

I kinda have that feeling too...it's been kinda quiet lately but that tidbit from the Trib got me thinking they're going for Griffey, as did the report on ESPN 1000. keeping fingers crossed

 

What was the ESPN 1000 report?

 

I posted it a couple of posts up in this thread

[mdwilla]

I think Hendry is going to make a bold move here if not now then before the aug 31 deadline.

[Butterscup1679666578]

I'd love to see Griffey to the Cubs, but someone has to give me a legitimate reason as to why the Reds would trade him. He's about the only reason the Reds draw any fans, they want to see him reach 600 HR.

 

I think the backlash would be terrible in Cincy. They might be able to live with it if they sent him back to the AL, even Seatlle, but to the Cubs? In the same division?

 

I just don't see it as a realistic possibillity.

 

Why would the Reds trade him? Because they are going nowhere, the market is thin, and Griffey's value will never be higher.

 

They'd be fools to hang on to him.

 

Exactly. If they are just hanging on to him for 600, then are going to trade him in the offseason or at next year's deadline, they aren't taking advantage of a big opportunity to improve their team.

[Bruno7481]

I'd love to see Griffey to the Cubs, but someone has to give me a legitimate reason as to why the Reds would trade him. He's about the only reason the Reds draw any fans, they want to see him reach 600 HR.

 

I think the backlash would be terrible in Cincy. They might be able to live with it if they sent him back to the AL, even Seatlle, but to the Cubs? In the same division?

 

I just don't see it as a realistic possibillity.

 

Why would the Reds trade him? Because they are going nowhere, the market is thin, and Griffey's value will never be higher.

 

They'd be fools to hang on to him.

 

 

Exactly. If they are just hanging on to him for 600, then are going to trade him in the offseason or at next year's deadline, they aren't taking advantage of a big opportunity to improve their team.

 

Normally I'd agree, but this thing has a whole lot of other consequences to consider. He's a local guy, his family has tradition with the Reds and he is their only drawing card right now.

 

I don't think trading him to the Cubs if their first choice, even if they decide to trade him. I think it is 100X more likely they ship him out of the league and the division if they can. I say can because Griffey obvioulsy has to approve the trade.

 

The Reds also aren't exactly known for making the smartest and best decisions. I just don't see it happening, but I'd be glad if it did.

[da bears]

As Gob from arrested development once said, "my gut is telling me no. but my gut is also very hungry."

 

I am not optimistic about the Cubs trading for anyone substantial. I just hope that if they do, its bigger than Matt Lawton was.

[JC]

I'd love to see Griffey to the Cubs, but someone has to give me a legitimate reason as to why the Reds would trade him. He's about the only reason the Reds draw any fans, they want to see him reach 600 HR.

 

I don't disagree. I suppose the only reason is the ol' heartstring angle. Griffey's trade to Cincy, as we all know, was an accomodation by Seattle. Griffey subsequently agreed with Cincy to a sweetheart deal, with millions deferred.

 

While it may be only my perception, I think Griffey remains baseball royalty. I can't think of another player who forced a trade like he did that was not held in at least a little contempt. Such dissatisfaction never adhered to Griffey despite the trade he orchestrated.

 

There may be a feeling that Griffey deserves his shot. Of course, there is the obvious connection with Lou that makes the Cubs that much more attractive to him.

 

Clearly, it is counterintuitive to believe a baseball team/business would allow sentiment to dictate a move with its most high profile player. At the same time, one cannot dismiss that such sentiment has played a part in Griffey's previous move. Perhaps Griffey is just that special. Perhaps those running a once proud club steeped in tradition will harken back to its glory days and do one last favor for one of its favorite sons, Ken Griffey, Sr. Perhaps, just perhaps, its better for the game of baseball to see an aging hero once known as The Kid play once more in October.

 

Then again, maybe Bud Selig and Barry Bonds will start a dog fighting conglomerate together...

[Electron Blue]

I'd love to see Griffey to the Cubs, but someone has to give me a legitimate reason as to why the Reds would trade him. He's about the only reason the Reds draw any fans, they want to see him reach 600 HR.

 

I don't disagree. I suppose the only reason is the ol' heartstring angle. Griffey's trade to Cincy, as we all know, was an accomodation by Seattle. Griffey subsequently agreed with Cincy to a sweetheart deal, with millions deferred.

 

While it may be only my perception, I think Griffey remains baseball royalty. I can't think of another player who forced a trade like he did that was not held in at least a little contempt. Such dissatisfaction never adhered to Griffey despite the trade he orchestrated.

 

There may be a feeling that Griffey deserves his shot. Of course, there is the obvious connection with Lou that makes the Cubs that much more attractive to him.

 

Clearly, it is counterintuitive to believe a baseball team/business would allow sentiment to dictate a move with its most high profile player. At the same time, one cannot dismiss that such sentiment has played a part in Griffey's previous move. Perhaps Griffey is just that special. Perhaps those running a once proud club steeped in tradition will harken back to its glory days and do one last favor for one of its favorite sons, Ken Griffey, Sr. Perhaps, just perhaps, its better for the game of baseball to see an aging hero once known as The Kid play once more in October.

 

Then again, maybe Bud Selig and Barry Bonds will start a dog fighting conglomerate together...

 

Don't forget Greg Maddux. Sure hendry blew that trade, but in his defense, he only made it because of respect for Greg. Maddux, though, certainly wasn't on the cusp of a major milestone . . . that's the part that has me most concerned about the deal.

 

Could Griffey pass through waivers to be dealt after he hits his 600th. Granted, it could take awhile, and the price to acquire him would/should go way down, but is that realistic?