7/18 Giants (Cain) at CUBS (Big Z), 1:20 PM CT, WGN

[98navigator]

Feliz singles just past DeRo

[TruffleShuffle]

c'mon gallagher... i want him to get his first save!

[cjbucks]

Lineups are up on Gameday.....forfeit lineup. No Lee, No Ramirez.

 

10 run rule?

[Sarcastic]

I know the Cubs are going to win anyway, but why send out Gallagher for a fourth inning?

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

we better win tomorrow... i don't want a split against the giants, these guys SUCK

 

That would not be good with Arizona coming in to play. How do the Cubs do against the D'Backs in Chicago. Because they can't win for the life of them in Arizona.

 

I'm venturing a guess of about .500 in Chicago against the D'backs over the last few years.

 

arizona isn't good either... they've been crapping the bed lately, and their pythagorean W-L is 7 games below .500. We should take at least two of those games.

 

I agree. But, they have some young prospects who are bound to break out. They have way too much talent to produce the numbers that they have been producing. So in that regard they scare me. Plus, it just seems the Cubs do not play the D'backs well. Atleast not in Arizona, so I guess it might be alright in Chicago.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Take it easy Frandsen, you're down 11 runs, no need for anyone to get hurt.

[soccer10k]

One more, Sean. Just get this thing over with.

[RichHillIsABeast]

c'mon gallagher... i want him to get his first save!

 

:-s

[98navigator]

Frandsen singles. Durham scores b/c Jacque bobbled the ball. Error

 

Molina grounds into DP

 

Aurrilla PH for Tashner

 

out to Fontenot in shallow CF

 

Game over :D

[soccer10k]

CUBS WIN!!!

[bukie]

c'mon gallagher... i want him to get his first save!

 

:-s

 

3+ innings of relief to end the game is a save, no matter the lead.

[Omar]

CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

[Flames24Rulz]

Cubs win!

[98navigator]

Cubs Win! Cubs Win! Cubs win!

 

Go Cubs Go

 

I believe Gallagher earned a save for pitching 4 innings.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Cubs Win! Cubs Win! Cubs win!

 

Go Cubs Go

 

I believe Gallagher earned a save for pitching 4 innings.

 

He did.

[jersey cubs fan]

c'mon gallagher... i want him to get his first save!

 

:-s

 

3+ innings of relief to end the game is a save, no matter the lead.

 

Isn't up to scorekeeper's discretion? 3+ innings means you can get a save without the same rules as most saves, but it doesn't guarantee a save, right?

 

If you come into a 12-8 game in the 6th and finish the game and it's still 12-8, you will get a save. But a 9-0 lead may or may not give you a save.

[chuckywang]

c'mon gallagher... i want him to get his first save!

 

:-s

 

3+ innings of relief to end the game is a save, no matter the lead.

 

You know your stats...

[CyHawk_Cub]

c'mon gallagher... i want him to get his first save!

 

:-s

 

3+ innings of relief to end the game is a save, no matter the lead.

 

Isn't up to scorekeeper's discretion? 3+ innings means you can get a save without the same rules as most saves, but it doesn't guarantee a save, right?

 

If you come into a 12-8 game in the 6th and finish the game and it's still 12-8, you will get a save. But a 9-0 lead may or may not give you a save.

 

Discretion comes into play only if more than one relieft pitcher was used--scorer decides which one was most "effective."

[Flames24Rulz]

c'mon gallagher... i want him to get his first save!

 

:-s

 

3+ innings of relief to end the game is a save, no matter the lead.

 

Isn't up to scorekeeper's discretion? 3+ innings means you can get a save without the same rules as most saves, but it doesn't guarantee a save, right?

 

If you come into a 12-8 game in the 6th and finish the game and it's still 12-8, you will get a save. But a 9-0 lead may or may not give you a save.

 

If you pitch 4 innings after the starter, you will earn the save.

[BleacherBadger]

Ugly, brutal opponent or not, Cubs have to win the games they are supposed to win. That's called getting the job done.

 

Good days work boys, go have a few cold ones.

[Omar]

Nice to see this team can win without Lee & Ramirez.

 

But what I wonder is if Koyie Hill will will get the start tomorrow over Kendall.

 

I say play the hot hand until it cools off.

[98navigator]

This lead prevents Z from getting a QS.

 

Lewis out to CF. 1 down

 

What does our offensive production have anything to do with QS's?

 

The only reason Z came out after 5 IP was because of the 9-0 score. A pitcher has to go 6 innings with 3 or fewer runs to get a quality start.

 

I guess next time Lou should tell his players to stop scoring so that Z can chase a meaningless statistic.

 

cubs offense is so selfish

 

JESUS, I was just pointing out a fact

Edited July 18, 2007 by 98navigator

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Nice to see this team can win without Lee & Ramirez.

 

But what I wonder is if Koyie Hill will will get the start tomorrow over Kendall.

 

I say play the hot hand until it cools off.

 

I think Lou is still going to go with Kendall.

[bukie]

Isn't up to scorekeeper's discretion? 3+ innings means you can get a save without the same rules as most saves, but it doesn't guarantee a save, right?

 

If you come into a 12-8 game in the 6th and finish the game and it's still 12-8, you will get a save. But a 9-0 lead may or may not give you a save.

 

According to the official rules:

A save is credited to a pitcher who fulfills the following three conditions:

 

1. The pitcher is the last pitcher in a game won by his team;

2. The pitcher is not the winning pitcher, for example, there is no save if the starting pitcher throws a complete game win or if a relief pitcher gives up the lead and his team then scores a winning run while he is the pitcher of record (sometimes known as a "vulture win");

3. The pitcher fulfills at least one of the following three conditions:

A. He comes into the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one full inning.

B. He comes into the game with the potential tying run either on base, at bat, or on deck.

C. He pitches for at least three innings. (The "pitches effectively" designation was removed recently by MLB, so as to not leave a rather arbitrary and contentious judgement call to the official scorer.)

 

I'm not sure when they removed "pitches effectively" from the rule, but I think it's now just automatically regarded as a save.

[C.C.]

What a great day. Ram gets' rest, Z gets a easy W, and the bullpen gets rested.