6/12 Mariners (Washburn) @ Cubs (Hill) 7:05 CSN

[TMan92]

Good swing, Koyie, you idiot.

 

Thanks for the L Lou.

 

Man with the baseball acumen on this site, one would think the manager could be responsible for 40 losses a year on his own.

 

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Ohman faced, what, 5 righties, including 2 after he gave up a shoulda-been-homer? Gallagher was ready?

 

It was plain stupid managing. I defy you to come up with a defense for what happened there.

 

Exactly. How about one time we actually call a squeeze play in the bottom of the inning late in the game when we have bases loaded and no out. Instead, the obligatory pissing down the leg will suffice.

[abuck1220]

this loss really sums up the 2007 season. stupid baserunning, stupid mistakes by hill, horrible defense, swinging at crap all throughout extra innings, the offense not executing when they had runners on base, piniella misusing ohman...so on and so on...

[InconspicuousZ28]

Sigh. Bases loaded in the 8th with no outs. No runs.

 

Its a long season, dude.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Tuesday 12 June 2007

Seattle @ CUBS

19:05

 

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3      R  H  E
Seattle         0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2      5 14  0
CUBS            2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0      3 12  1



Seattle
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Suzuki        cf       6   0   1   0   1   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Lopez         2b       3   0   1   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Davis         p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
O'Flaherty    p        1   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Putz          p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Burke         ph       1   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Guillen       rf       6   1   2   1   1   1   6   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0
Ibanez        lf       6   0   1   0   0   1   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Sexson        1b       6   0   0   0   0   2   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Johjima       c        6   2   3   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Beltre        3b       4   0   1   0   0   1   3   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Vidro         ph-2b    2   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Betancourt    ss       5   1   1   0   1   0   5   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Washburn      p        2   0   1   1   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Ellison       ph       1   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0
Green         p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Morrow        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Sherrill      p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Broussard     ph       1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Bloomquist    2b-3b    2   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                52   5  14   4   5   9  24   0   0   0   1   0   4   0   1   0   0



CUBS
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Soriano       lf       5   1   0   0   2   0   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0
Pagan         cf-rf    4   1   1   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Howry         p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Zambrano      ph       1   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Ohman         p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Gallagher     p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
K Hill        ph       1   0   0   0   0   0   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Lee           1b       4   1   2   1   2   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Barrett       c        6   0   2   1   0   1   4   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
DeRosa        3b       6   0   3   0   0   2   1   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Murton        rf       3   0   0   0   0   1   4   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0
Floyd         ph       0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Dempster      p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Jones         rf       2   0   1   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Theriot       2b-ss    4   0   1   0   2   0   4   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Izturis       ss       3   0   0   0   0   0   4   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Marmol        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Pie           ph-cf    3   0   1   0   0   1   4   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
R Hill        p        2   0   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0
Fontenot      2b       4   0   1   0   0   2   5   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                48   3  12   3   8  12  30   1   0   0   2   1   3   0   0   0   0



Seattle
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Washburn         6.0   5   2   2   5   4   0   94
Green            1.0   4   1   1   0   0   0   29
Morrow           0.3   0   0   0   1   0   0   9
Sherrill         0.7   0   0   0   0   2   0   10
Davis            1.3   0   0   0   1   1   0   29
O'Flaherty       2.7   1   0   0   0   4   0   41
Putz             1.0   2   0   0   1   1   0   22

totals          13.0  12   3   3   8  12   0  234


CUBS
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
R Hill           6.7   8   3   3   1   4   1   83
Marmol           1.3   2   0   0   1   2   0   29
Dempster         1.0   1   0   0   0   1   0   16
Howry            2.0   0   0   0   0   0   0   17
Ohman            1.7   3   2   2   2   2   0   40
Gallagher        0.3   0   0   0   0   0   0   4

totals          13.0  14   5   5   5   9   1  189



Home runs:
Seattle: Guillen ( 8 )
CUBS: none

W: O'Flaherty (3-0)
S: Putz (19)
L: Ohman (0-4)

T: 4:06
A: 40,071

[abuck1220]

Good swing, Koyie, you idiot.

 

Thanks for the L Lou.

 

Man with the baseball acumen on this site, one would think the manager could be responsible for 40 losses a year on his own.

 

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Ohman faced, what, 5 righties, including 2 after he gave up a shoulda-been-homer? Gallagher was ready?

 

It was plain stupid managing. I defy you to come up with a defense for what happened there.

 

Exactly. How about one time we actually call a squeeze play in the bottom of the inning late in the game when we have bases loaded and no out. Instead, the obligatory pissing down the leg will suffice.

 

yeah, just what a team that can't execute EVER needs to be doing...trying to get a squeeze down. like that wouldn't turn into a complete disaster.

[98navigator]

Michael Barrett woulda hit into a 2 out triple play there.

 

yeah, because he's been an offensive force this year. LOL, I'm not going to blame him for any more than what he has coming... I feared this game would come down to a botched play at catcher.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Good swing, Koyie, you idiot.

 

Thanks for the L Lou.

 

Man with the baseball acumen on this site, one would think the manager could be responsible for 40 losses a year on his own.

 

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

Come off it. Lou's an idiot for leaving Ohman out there. He can't get RH hitters out, and on top of that he's thrown more pitches the last couple days than the "overworked" Wuertz. He's completely responsible for that situation that ended up with us giving up the lead.

[abuck1220]

Michael Barrett woulda hit into a 2 out triple play there.

 

yeah, because he's been an offensive force this year. LOL, I'm not going to blame him for any more than what he has coming... I feared this game would come down to a botched play at catcher.

 

if it weren't for barrett's hit in the eighth, it wouldn't have come down to that.

[A New Era]

Good swing, Koyie, you idiot.

 

Thanks for the L Lou.

 

Man with the baseball acumen on this site, one would think the manager could be responsible for 40 losses a year on his own.

 

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

Come off it. Lou's an idiot for leaving Ohman out there. He can't get RH hitters out, and on top of that he's thrown more pitches the last couple days than the "overworked" Wuertz. He's completely responsible for that situation that ended up with us giving up the lead.

 

You're ugly.

[98navigator]

Michael Barrett woulda hit into a 2 out triple play there.

 

yeah, because he's been an offensive force this year. LOL, I'm not going to blame him for any more than what he has coming... I feared this game would come down to a botched play at catcher.

 

if it weren't for barrett's hit in the eighth, it wouldn't have come down to that.

 

Barrett (and Murton) also left 4 runners on base.

[abuck1220]

Michael Barrett woulda hit into a 2 out triple play there.

 

yeah, because he's been an offensive force this year. LOL, I'm not going to blame him for any more than what he has coming... I feared this game would come down to a botched play at catcher.

 

if it weren't for barrett's hit in the eighth, it wouldn't have come down to that.

 

Barrett (and Murton) also left 4 runners on base.

 

yeah, the whole team sucks...what's your point?

[sunnydoo]

yeah, the whole team sucks...what's your point?

 

Ohman Blows

Edited June 13, 2007 by sunnydoo

[Guest]

40 pitches for Ohman and facing multiple righties with the game on the line? Umm, wow.

[98navigator]

Michael Barrett woulda hit into a 2 out triple play there.

 

yeah, because he's been an offensive force this year. LOL, I'm not going to blame him for any more than what he has coming... I feared this game would come down to a botched play at catcher.

 

if it weren't for barrett's hit in the eighth, it wouldn't have come down to that.

 

Barrett (and Murton) also left 4 runners on base.

 

yeah, the whole team sucks...what's your point?

 

My point is Barrett didn't come through the majority of the game.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Michael Barrett woulda hit into a 2 out triple play there.

 

yeah, because he's been an offensive force this year. LOL, I'm not going to blame him for any more than what he has coming... I feared this game would come down to a botched play at catcher.

 

if it weren't for barrett's hit in the eighth, it wouldn't have come down to that.

 

Barrett (and Murton) also left 4 runners on base.

 

So did Theriot and Izturis.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

40 pitches for Ohman and facing multiple righties with the game on the line? Umm, wow.

 

He has to be gambling against the team. No one could be this stupid.

[Guest]

40 pitches for Ohman and facing multiple righties with the game on the line? Umm, wow.

 

He has to be gambling against the team. No one could be this stupid.

 

After all those pitches he threw on Sunday.

[JonnyRed]

This season can really be summed up by the play that gave the Mariners the 4-3 lead. First off, Ohman should have been out of the game by then. Ohman had only pitched more than one inning twice this whole year. Then our .230 waste of a RF double clutches before throwing a three-hopper to the plate, which our blundering catcher can't seem to corral.

 

Of course, if they made the play, we might still be watching this sorry state of a baseball team perform.

 

Even after saying all of this, the game was lost in the 8th when we couldn't even score the game-winning run from third with no outs...brutal!

[sunnydoo]

40 pitches for Ohman and facing multiple righties with the game on the line? Umm, wow.

 

He has to be gambling against the team. No one could be this stupid.

 

Why Loogys dont exist.

 

Sometimes they need to eat innings to help a bum-rushed pen. Obviously he cant do it, so we need to find someone that can.

[abuck1220]

Michael Barrett woulda hit into a 2 out triple play there.

 

yeah, because he's been an offensive force this year. LOL, I'm not going to blame him for any more than what he has coming... I feared this game would come down to a botched play at catcher.

 

if it weren't for barrett's hit in the eighth, it wouldn't have come down to that.

 

Barrett (and Murton) also left 4 runners on base.

 

yeah, the whole team sucks...what's your point?

 

My point is Barrett didn't come through the majority of the game.

 

neither did hill, hill, izturis, jones, murton, ohman, soriano, pie, theriot, derosa, pagan, fontenot, or anyone else on this pathetic team. you're acting like barrett is the difference between a 28-35 team and a 50-13 team.

[98navigator]

Michael Barrett woulda hit into a 2 out triple play there.

 

yeah, because he's been an offensive force this year. LOL, I'm not going to blame him for any more than what he has coming... I feared this game would come down to a botched play at catcher.

 

if it weren't for barrett's hit in the eighth, it wouldn't have come down to that.

 

Barrett (and Murton) also left 4 runners on base.

 

So did Theriot and Izturis.

 

Fontenot left 5 late in the game however, he was facing tough lefty relievers.

 

Unlike Barrett, none of those guys is hitting cleanup. Come on, Barrett was showing bunt in the early innings... He isn't coming through enough offensively and he's a defensive liability.

Edited June 13, 2007 by 98navigator

[abuck1220]

40 pitches for Ohman and facing multiple righties with the game on the line? Umm, wow.

 

He has to be gambling against the team. No one could be this stupid.

 

Why Loogys dont exist.

 

Sometimes they need to eat innings to help a bum-rushed pen. Obviously he cant do it, so we need to find someone that can.

 

can you please quit saying they don't exist before i go absolutely insane?

 

just say you don't agree with having them.

[Guest]

40 pitches for Ohman and facing multiple righties with the game on the line? Umm, wow.

 

He has to be gambling against the team. No one could be this stupid.

 

Why Loogys dont exist.

 

Sometimes they need to eat innings to help a bum-rushed pen. Obviously he cant do it, so we need to find someone that can.

 

They do exist. Piniella doesn't know how to use them.

[Lockes Eye Scar]

This season can really be summed up by the play that gave the Mariners the 4-3 lead. First off, Ohman should have been out of the game by then. Ohman had only pitched more than one inning twice this whole year. Then our .230 waste of a RF double clutches before throwing a three-hopper to the plate, which our blundering catcher can't seem to corral.

 

totally agree. Classic Cubs sequence of events.

[SouthSideRyan]

40 pitches for Ohman and facing multiple righties with the game on the line? Umm, wow.

 

He has to be gambling against the team. No one could be this stupid.

 

Why Loogys dont exist.

 

Sometimes they need to eat innings to help a bum-rushed pen. Obviously he cant do it, so we need to find someone that can.

 

Why was Ohman needed to eat innings?? Gallagher and Wuertz coulda taken out 6 innings before Ohman was ever needed. Which would've taken us to the 18th inning, and I don't think we need to make bullpen management decisions based on who we'd be using in the 18th. For whatever reason managers seem intent to hold out their long reliever til they have no other arms left and I just don't get it. In the process they wind up stretching short relievers for longer than they're used to and wind up never even getting to the inning eater.