5/27 - Cubs (Hill) @ Dodgers (Wolf) 3:10 CST WGN

[Keener98]

I like how our ace was removed in a 1-0 game with 66 pitches thrown. That's brilliant.

 

Had to be done on a 0-0 game that late. The way this team has been hitting you need that run. Not to mention Ward almost had a single, what would everyone have been saying then?

 

That Lous bad decision got lucky. Son shines on a dogs butt every once in awhile basically and the move did not have to be made. You leave your pitcher in that gives you the best chance and not giving up runs, and in case you havent noticed thats not out bullpen.

[dbeider]

There were plenty of bad things for us... Barrett's throw to second, Lou bringing in Eyre. wild pitch/hit batter, etc. Bad teams do bad things.

 

So because the bullpen sucks, Lou must walk on eggshells and bring in the exact perfect person or he's an idiot? The perfect person of course being Howry or Ohman, every single time. Never mind that a strategy like that will send those 2 to the DL by July.

 

This makes no sense. Eyre sucks, he's on the team. Either get him off the team, or Lou will have to use him. Period, end of story.

 

Well, he doesn't have to use him. Lou chose to bring him in in the eight today but he didn't have to.

 

Maybe it's Lou's way of letting Hendry know he need to get rid of Eyre. He can't have a guy taking a roster spot, particularly in the pen and not use him. Just can't, it will hurt as much as sending the guy out there over time.

[CubColtPacer]

There were plenty of bad things for us... Barrett's throw to second, Lou bringing in Eyre. wild pitch/hit batter, etc. Bad teams do bad things.

 

So because the bullpen sucks, Lou must walk on eggshells and bring in the exact perfect person or he's an idiot? The perfect person of course being Howry or Ohman, every single time. Never mind that a strategy like that will send those 2 to the DL by July.

 

This makes no sense. Eyre sucks, he's on the team. Either get him off the team, or Lou will have to use him. Period, end of story.

 

There is no reason at all to bring Eyre in with the game so close. Just leave Wuertz in he can get lefties out to just in case you or Lou hasnt noticed.

 

I wouldn't have put Eyre in there either, but Ohman has been better pitching to right-handers than Wuertz has been pitching to left-handers the past three years. Why is it so bad for Ohman to pitch to an occasional right-hander, but Lou is called out if he doesn't leave Wuertz in to face every left-hander?

[dbeider]

I like how our ace was removed in a 1-0 game with 66 pitches thrown. That's brilliant.

 

Had to be done on a 0-0 game that late. The way this team has been hitting you need that run. Not to mention Ward almost had a single, what would everyone have been saying then?

 

That Lous bad decision got lucky. Son shines on a dogs butt every once in awhile basically and the move did not have to be made. You leave your pitcher in that gives you the best chance and not giving up runs, and in case you havent noticed thats not out bullpen.

 

I notice every time. Can't not use the bullpen. Everyone is crying about taking Wuertz out. Is it that they took Hill out or Wuertz out? If Wuertz stayed in and the team won 1-0 then what? Still the wrong decision? It's freaking baseball, I watch enough to know that things go wrong, and things go right. With this team things go wrong all the time and it sucks for all of us.

 

You have a 25 man roster for a reason, you need to use them. Doesn't matter how bad the bullpen is. In 2003 Baker refused to use the bullpen because it was horrible and now everyone cries that he ruined Wood and Prior because of it.

 

Nobody can win when a team plays like crap. They need the players and when a pitcher can't perform they should be held accountable, sent down, cut whatever, doesn't matter how much they are paid.

 

The right thing in this game was to take him out and try to get the win, use Wuertz for 2 innings and Dempster in the 9th.

[soccer10k]

Cubs should be, at the worst, three back of Milwaukee right now because they should have swept this series. And this doesn't even include the blown 4-0 and 5-1 (the Mets' five run ninth game) leads in two of the games against the Mets and the game where they gave up 6 in the bottom of the seventh against the Phillies. This is absolutely pathetic. The Brewers are trying to give the damn division away and the Cubs can't take advantage of it. The Brewers are 4-12 since sweeping the Nationals on May 9. Since then, the Cubs are 6-11. They should be 11-6 and tied for first place right now.

[Keener98]

There were plenty of bad things for us... Barrett's throw to second, Lou bringing in Eyre. wild pitch/hit batter, etc. Bad teams do bad things.

 

So because the bullpen sucks, Lou must walk on eggshells and bring in the exact perfect person or he's an idiot? The perfect person of course being Howry or Ohman, every single time. Never mind that a strategy like that will send those 2 to the DL by July.

 

This makes no sense. Eyre sucks, he's on the team. Either get him off the team, or Lou will have to use him. Period, end of story.

 

Well, he doesn't have to use him. Lou chose to bring him in in the eight today but he didn't have to.

 

Maybe it's Lou's way of letting Hendry know he need to get rid of Eyre. He can't have a guy taking a roster spot, particularly in the pen and not use him. Just can't, it will hurt as much as sending the guy out there over time.

 

If Lous way of letting Hendry know to get rid of Eyre is to put his team in a bad situation, then he should be fired now. They have things like email, text messages, phones, and even these things called cell phones that can be used to convey to Hendry he wants Eyre off the team.

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE ELEVENTH INNING

 

Billingsley in to pitch for Los Angeles

DeRosa lined out to center field

Murton lined out to shortstop

Jones grounded out to the catcher, 2-3

 

0 runs 0 hits 0 errors 0 men left on base

 

BOTTOM OF THE ELEVENTH INNING

 

Martinez walked

Betemit walked , Martinez to second

Martinez stole third base

Marmol in to pitch for the CUBS

Furcal walked (intentionally), Furcal to third

Pierre hit by pitch, Martinez scored, Betemit to third, Furcal to second

 

1 runs 0 hits 0 errors 2 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1          R  H  E
CUBS            0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0          1  7  0
Los Angeles     0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1          2  4  1

 

W: Billingsley (3-0)

S: none

L: Guzman (0-1)

 

T: 3:22

A: 51,198

 

Home runs:

CUBS: none

Los Angeles: Ethier (4)

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Hill          6.0  3  0  0  2  3  0  66
Wuertz        1.0  0  0  0  0  0  0  12
Eyre          0.0  1  1  1  0  0  1   3
Howry         1.0  0  0  0  0  0  0  13
Guzman        2.0  0  1  1  2  1  0  34
Marmol        0.0  0  0  0  1  0  0   8

 

Los Angeles    IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Wolf          6.0  3  0  0  2  5  0 101
Seanez        1.7  4  1  1  1  0  0  32
Beimel        0.3  0  0  0  0  0  0   1
Broxton       3.0  0  0  0  1  3  0  30
Billingsley   1.0  0  0  0  0  0  0  14

[Soul]

There were plenty of bad things for us... Barrett's throw to second, Lou bringing in Eyre. wild pitch/hit batter, etc. Bad teams do bad things.

 

So because the bullpen sucks, Lou must walk on eggshells and bring in the exact perfect person or he's an idiot? The perfect person of course being Howry or Ohman, every single time. Never mind that a strategy like that will send those 2 to the DL by July.

 

This makes no sense. Eyre sucks, he's on the team. Either get him off the team, or Lou will have to use him. Period, end of story.

 

Well, he doesn't have to use him. Lou chose to bring him in in the eight today but he didn't have to.

 

Maybe it's Lou's way of letting Hendry know he need to get rid of Eyre. He can't have a guy taking a roster spot, particularly in the pen and not use him. Just can't, it will hurt as much as sending the guy out there over time.

 

If Lous way of letting Hendry know to get rid of Eyre is to put his team in a bad situation, then he should be fired now. They have things like email, text messages, phones, and even these things called cell phones that can be used to convey to Hendry he wants Eyre off the team.

 

Lou? I'll bet he doggedly refuses to use computers and pda's. Doesn't seem like the type.

 

Anyway, he's on our roster. If he can't be used, then he should be gone, period. Mr. Eyre, that is.

Edited May 27, 2007 by Soul

[dbeider]

There were plenty of bad things for us... Barrett's throw to second, Lou bringing in Eyre. wild pitch/hit batter, etc. Bad teams do bad things.

 

So because the bullpen sucks, Lou must walk on eggshells and bring in the exact perfect person or he's an idiot? The perfect person of course being Howry or Ohman, every single time. Never mind that a strategy like that will send those 2 to the DL by July.

 

This makes no sense. Eyre sucks, he's on the team. Either get him off the team, or Lou will have to use him. Period, end of story.

 

Well, he doesn't have to use him. Lou chose to bring him in in the eight today but he didn't have to.

 

Maybe it's Lou's way of letting Hendry know he need to get rid of Eyre. He can't have a guy taking a roster spot, particularly in the pen and not use him. Just can't, it will hurt as much as sending the guy out there over time.

 

If Lous way of letting Hendry know to get rid of Eyre is to put his team in a bad situation, then he should be fired now. They have things like email, text messages, phones, and even these things called cell phones that can be used to convey to Hendry he wants Eyre off the team.

 

Given, I doubt that he is trying to send a message by putting him in in that situation. However, Eyre riding the pine for a week I think was message enough. Ultimately what is he going to do? He has to bring in a lefty.

[Fred Hornkohl]

                  CUBS     Los Angeles
P/PA              4.14            3.68
RBI%              0.04            0.17
R/BR              0.09            0.20
BA               0.179           0.125
OBP              0.256           0.263
SLG              0.231           0.219
OPS              0.487           0.482
ERA               1.80            0.75
BB/9              4.50            3.00
K/9               3.60            6.00

[Fred Hornkohl]

Sunday 27 May 2007

CUBS @ Los Angeles

14:55

 

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1          R  H  E
CUBS            0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0          1  7  0
Los Angeles     0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1          2  4  1



CUBS
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Soriano       lf       4   1   2   0   1   0   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0
Theriot       2b       5   0   1   0   0   1   4   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Lee           1b       5   0   1   1   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Barrett       c        4   0   0   0   1   0   2   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
DeRosa        3b       5   0   0   0   0   1   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Murton        rf       4   0   1   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Pagan         cf       3   0   2   0   0   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Ramirez       ph       1   0   0   0   0   0   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Jones         cf       1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Izturis       ss       3   0   0   0   1   0   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Hill          p        2   0   0   0   0   2   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Ward          ph       1   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Wuertz        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Eyre          p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Howry         p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Floyd         ph       1   0   0   0   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Guzman        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Marmol        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                39   1   7   1   4   8  22   0   1   0   1   0   2   0   0   0   0



Los Angeles
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Furcal        ss       4   0   2   0   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0
Pierre        cf       4   0   0   1   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1
Martin        c        4   0   0   0   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Kent          2b       4   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Saenz         1b       3   0   0   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Gonzalez      lf       4   0   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
LaRoche       3b       1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Ethier        ph-rf    2   1   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0
Clark         rf       2   0   0   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Garciaparra   ph       1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Broxton       p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Billingsley   p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Martinez      ph       0   1   0   0   1   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Wolf          p        1   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Abreu         ph       1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Seanez        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Beimel        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Betemit       ph-3b    1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                32   2   4   2   5   4   5   1   1   0   0   1   0   0   1   0   1



CUBS
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Hill             6.0   3   0   0   2   3   0   66
Wuertz           1.0   0   0   0   0   0   0   12
Eyre             0.0   1   1   1   0   0   1   3
Howry            1.0   0   0   0   0   0   0   13
Guzman           2.0   0   1   1   2   1   0   34
Marmol           0.0   0   0   0   1   0   0   8

totals          10.0   4   2   2   5   4   1  136


Los Angeles
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Wolf             6.0   3   0   0   2   5   0  101
Seanez           1.7   4   1   1   1   0   0   32
Beimel           0.3   0   0   0   0   0   0   1
Broxton          3.0   0   0   0   1   3   0   30
Billingsley      1.0   0   0   0   0   0   0   14

totals          12.0   7   1   1   4   8   0  178



Home runs:
CUBS: none
Los Angeles: Ethier (4)

W: Billingsley (3-0)
S: none
L: Guzman (0-1)

T: 3:22
A: 51,198

[baseball7897]

Barrett has just been bad this year. He could not get a bunt down in the 8th with a runner on 2b with no outs, he made his routine mental mistake behind the plate today in the 11th, and he did nothing at the plate today.

[seanimal]

What a crappy game.

[C.C.]

There were plenty of bad things for us... Barrett's throw to second, Lou bringing in Eyre. wild pitch/hit batter, etc. Bad teams do bad things.

 

So because the bullpen sucks, Lou must walk on eggshells and bring in the exact perfect person or he's an idiot? The perfect person of course being Howry or Ohman, every single time. Never mind that a strategy like that will send those 2 to the DL by July.

 

This makes no sense. Eyre sucks, he's on the team. Either get him off the team, or Lou will have to use him. Period, end of story.

 

Well, he doesn't have to use him. Lou chose to bring him in in the eight today but he didn't have to.

 

Maybe it's Lou's way of letting Hendry know he need to get rid of Eyre. He can't have a guy taking a roster spot, particularly in the pen and not use him. Just can't, it will hurt as much as sending the guy out there over time.

 

If Lous way of letting Hendry know to get rid of Eyre is to put his team in a bad situation, then he should be fired now. They have things like email, text messages, phones, and even these things called cell phones that can be used to convey to Hendry he wants Eyre off the team.

 

Given, I doubt that he is trying to send a message by putting him in in that situation. However, Eyre riding the pine for a week I think was message enough. Ultimately what is he going to do? He has to bring in a lefty.

 

Hendry's not going to eat his salary and admit his mistake. Don't we have him through 2008?

[Keener98]

There were plenty of bad things for us... Barrett's throw to second, Lou bringing in Eyre. wild pitch/hit batter, etc. Bad teams do bad things.

 

So because the bullpen sucks, Lou must walk on eggshells and bring in the exact perfect person or he's an idiot? The perfect person of course being Howry or Ohman, every single time. Never mind that a strategy like that will send those 2 to the DL by July.

 

This makes no sense. Eyre sucks, he's on the team. Either get him off the team, or Lou will have to use him. Period, end of story.

 

Well, he doesn't have to use him. Lou chose to bring him in in the eight today but he didn't have to.

 

Maybe it's Lou's way of letting Hendry know he need to get rid of Eyre. He can't have a guy taking a roster spot, particularly in the pen and not use him. Just can't, it will hurt as much as sending the guy out there over time.

 

If Lous way of letting Hendry know to get rid of Eyre is to put his team in a bad situation, then he should be fired now. They have things like email, text messages, phones, and even these things called cell phones that can be used to convey to Hendry he wants Eyre off the team.

 

Given, I doubt that he is trying to send a message by putting him in in that situation. However, Eyre riding the pine for a week I think was message enough. Ultimately what is he going to do? He has to bring in a lefty.

 

Why? Wuertz is capable of getting lefties out, and was rolling. And even if he "had' to bring in a lefty, why not Ohman? Why bring in somebody who has sucked all year, and continually hurt his team? There is no logical reasoning in bringing Eyre into this game.

[Keener98]

Barrett has just been bad this year. He could not get a bunt down in the 8th with a runner on 2b with no outs, he made his routine mental mistake behind the plate today in the 11th, and he did nothing at the plate today.

 

Barret shouldnt have been bunting in the first damn place. Another

"brilliant" move by the old man in the dugout. Our cleanup hitter bunting? Wow stupid

[Sammy Sofa]

Barrett has just been bad this year. He could not get a bunt down in the 8th with a runner on 2b with no outs, he made his routine mental mistake behind the plate today in the 11th, and he did nothing at the plate today.

 

Barrett is bordering on being completely useless at this point. I think his offenseive numbers are decent at home, but he's Neifi-esque on the road...combine that with his typical bad to worse dfense and he's making Blanco look like a MUCH better option at this point.

[Soul]

There were plenty of bad things for us... Barrett's throw to second, Lou bringing in Eyre. wild pitch/hit batter, etc. Bad teams do bad things.

 

So because the bullpen sucks, Lou must walk on eggshells and bring in the exact perfect person or he's an idiot? The perfect person of course being Howry or Ohman, every single time. Never mind that a strategy like that will send those 2 to the DL by July.

 

This makes no sense. Eyre sucks, he's on the team. Either get him off the team, or Lou will have to use him. Period, end of story.

 

Well, he doesn't have to use him. Lou chose to bring him in in the eight today but he didn't have to.

 

Maybe it's Lou's way of letting Hendry know he need to get rid of Eyre. He can't have a guy taking a roster spot, particularly in the pen and not use him. Just can't, it will hurt as much as sending the guy out there over time.

 

If Lous way of letting Hendry know to get rid of Eyre is to put his team in a bad situation, then he should be fired now. They have things like email, text messages, phones, and even these things called cell phones that can be used to convey to Hendry he wants Eyre off the team.

 

Given, I doubt that he is trying to send a message by putting him in in that situation. However, Eyre riding the pine for a week I think was message enough. Ultimately what is he going to do? He has to bring in a lefty.

 

Why? Wuertz is capable of getting lefties out, and was rolling. And even if he "had' to bring in a lefty, why not Ohman? Why bring in somebody who has sucked all year, and continually hurt his team? There is no logical reasoning in bringing Eyre into this game.

 

You can't just bring in these 2 guys all the time and burn their arms out. That's why. It's takes an entire bullpen, not just the only 2 guys you have who aren't crappy.

 

If Eyre's not an option because he sucks, then it's up to Hendry to get an option that doesn't suck. And that's pretty much the end of the story.

[Keener98]

There were plenty of bad things for us... Barrett's throw to second, Lou bringing in Eyre. wild pitch/hit batter, etc. Bad teams do bad things.

 

So because the bullpen sucks, Lou must walk on eggshells and bring in the exact perfect person or he's an idiot? The perfect person of course being Howry or Ohman, every single time. Never mind that a strategy like that will send those 2 to the DL by July.

 

This makes no sense. Eyre sucks, he's on the team. Either get him off the team, or Lou will have to use him. Period, end of story.

 

Well, he doesn't have to use him. Lou chose to bring him in in the eight today but he didn't have to.

 

Maybe it's Lou's way of letting Hendry know he need to get rid of Eyre. He can't have a guy taking a roster spot, particularly in the pen and not use him. Just can't, it will hurt as much as sending the guy out there over time.

 

If Lous way of letting Hendry know to get rid of Eyre is to put his team in a bad situation, then he should be fired now. They have things like email, text messages, phones, and even these things called cell phones that can be used to convey to Hendry he wants Eyre off the team.

 

Given, I doubt that he is trying to send a message by putting him in in that situation. However, Eyre riding the pine for a week I think was message enough. Ultimately what is he going to do? He has to bring in a lefty.

 

Why? Wuertz is capable of getting lefties out, and was rolling. And even if he "had' to bring in a lefty, why not Ohman? Why bring in somebody who has sucked all year, and continually hurt his team? There is no logical reasoning in bringing Eyre into this game.

 

You can't just bring in these 2 guys all the time and burn their arms out. That's why. It's takes an entire bullpen, not just the only 2 guys you have who aren't crappy.

 

If Eyre's not an option because he sucks, then it's up to Hendry to get an option that doesn't suck. And that's pretty much the end of the story.

 

He hadnt used him in 9 games and he decides to bring him into a 1-0 game? Thats smart right there let me tell ya

[Omar]

Didnt Pierre screw us at Dodger stadium last year, also? His terrible throw and all.

[YearofDaCubs]

What I find hilarious..Pierre has 1 lessr RBi than Soriano.

[Omar]

What I find hilarious..Pierre has 1 lessr RBi than Soriano.

 

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[E.J.]

What I find hilarious..Pierre has 1 lessr RBi than Soriano.

 

You know what's funnier? We have Soriano for the next 8 years.

[abuck1220]

Barrett has just been bad this year. He could not get a bunt down in the 8th with a runner on 2b with no outs, he made his routine mental mistake behind the plate today in the 11th, and he did nothing at the plate today.

 

Barrett is bordering on being completely useless at this point. I think his offenseive numbers are decent at home, but he's Neifi-esque on the road...combine that with his typical bad to worse dfense and he's making Blanco look like a MUCH better option at this point.

 

he chokes pretty regularly defensively late in the game, but he'd have to play with no mitt to make blanco look like a better option period, let alone a MUCH better option.

 

and, as i'm sure others have said...it's ridiculous to ask him to bunt right there.

[YearofDaCubs]

What I find hilarious..Pierre has 1 lessr RBi than Soriano.

 

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Pierre had a RBI today which makes them even. Soriano is flat out overrated and overpaid. Thank You Jim Hendry.