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I really don't understand the "oh, it's better for them to drink in the clubhouse since they'll just be going out and drinking instead" line of thinking. By that logic, we should all be able to drink at work at the end of the day. Yes, I know with the players their "work" is technically over, but they're still in their place of "business." How hard is it to wait until you leave there before you do any drinking? If we're depriving them of something they NEED to do, that's indicative of a problem, not a lost privilege.

 

a baseball clubhouse is not really comparable to an office-setting.

 

drinking in the clubhouse is not the problem, it's alcoholism in general. they might as well just ban drinking in general for all the good this will accomplish.

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I really don't understand the "oh, it's better for them to drink in the clubhouse since they'll just be going out and drinking instead" line of thinking. By that logic, we should all be able to drink at work at the end of the day. Yes, I know with the players their "work" is technically over, but they're still in their place of "business." How hard is it to wait until you leave there before you do any drinking? If we're depriving them of something they NEED to do, that's indicative of a problem, not a lost privilege.

 

a baseball clubhouse is not really comparable to an office-setting.

 

drinking in the clubhouse is not the problem, it's alcoholism in general. they might as well just ban drinking in general for all the good this will accomplish.

 

Alcoholism isn't the reason people drink and drive.

 

The problem is drinking in a setting in which you are pretty certain to be driving afterward. It's like suburban strip mall bars. Providing beers in a home clubhouse pretty much ensures somebody will be driving home under the influence.

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I really don't understand the "oh, it's better for them to drink in the clubhouse since they'll just be going out and drinking instead" line of thinking. By that logic, we should all be able to drink at work at the end of the day. Yes, I know with the players their "work" is technically over, but they're still in their place of "business." How hard is it to wait until you leave there before you do any drinking? If we're depriving them of something they NEED to do, that's indicative of a problem, not a lost privilege.

 

a baseball clubhouse is not really comparable to an office-setting.

 

drinking in the clubhouse is not the problem, it's alcoholism in general. they might as well just ban drinking in general for all the good this will accomplish.

 

I once interviewed for and was offered an office job in the city where the president of the company told me they had beer in the refrigerator and were fine with people having a couple beers toward the end of the day.

 

Anyway, I don't care one way or another about alcohol in the clubhouse, but I agree that this is a typical reactionary move that doesn't solve anything.

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Alcoholism isn't the reason people drink and drive.

 

The problem is drinking in a setting in which you are pretty certain to be driving afterward. It's like suburban strip mall bars. Providing beers in a home clubhouse pretty much ensures somebody will be driving home under the influence.

 

That is a very good point, and probably the reason the Cubs are doing this. Besides, it isn't like the players are going to stop going across the street to Murphy's after the game, is it?

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I really don't understand the "oh, it's better for them to drink in the clubhouse since they'll just be going out and drinking instead" line of thinking. By that logic, we should all be able to drink at work at the end of the day. Yes, I know with the players their "work" is technically over, but they're still in their place of "business." How hard is it to wait until you leave there before you do any drinking? If we're depriving them of something they NEED to do, that's indicative of a problem, not a lost privilege.

 

a baseball clubhouse is not really comparable to an office-setting.

 

drinking in the clubhouse is not the problem, it's alcoholism in general. they might as well just ban drinking in general for all the good this will accomplish.

 

Alcoholism isn't the reason people drink and drive.

 

The problem is drinking in a setting in which you are pretty certain to be driving afterward. It's like suburban strip mall bars. Providing beers in a home clubhouse pretty much ensures somebody will be driving home under the influence.

 

And if the team provides beer, then allows the guy to drink and drive, and the guy kills somebody because he was drunk, the team could be held liable.

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i don't see the harm in having a beer in the locker room after a game.

 

hancock was out at a bar drinking heavily, not in the clubhouse doing keg stands.

 

this move is PR and it's stupid.

My thoughts exactly. Hell they were probably more supervised in the clubhouse than in regular bars.

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i don't see the harm in having a beer in the locker room after a game.

 

hancock was out at a bar drinking heavily, not in the clubhouse doing keg stands.

 

this move is PR and it's stupid.

 

Well, the ballclub is run by a Marketing man and it was his decision.

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hey lets just prohibit alcohol everywhere in the country because some guy killed himself through his own idiocy while we are at it.
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hey lets just prohibit alcohol everywhere in the country because some guy killed himself through his own idiocy while we are at it.

 

Hey, let's just completely overreact to a small responsible gesture that doesn't affect your life whatsoever.

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I really don't understand the "oh, it's better for them to drink in the clubhouse since they'll just be going out and drinking instead" line of thinking. By that logic, we should all be able to drink at work at the end of the day. Yes, I know with the players their "work" is technically over, but they're still in their place of "business." How hard is it to wait until you leave there before you do any drinking? If we're depriving them of something they NEED to do, that's indicative of a problem, not a lost privilege.

 

a baseball clubhouse is not really comparable to an office-setting.

 

drinking in the clubhouse is not the problem, it's alcoholism in general. they might as well just ban drinking in general for all the good this will accomplish.

 

Alcoholism isn't the reason people drink and drive.

 

The problem is drinking in a setting in which you are pretty certain to be driving afterward. It's like suburban strip mall bars. Providing beers in a home clubhouse pretty much ensures somebody will be driving home under the influence.

 

And if the team provides beer, then allows the guy to drink and drive, and the guy kills somebody because he was drunk, the team could be held liable.

 

We have a winner!

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hey lets just prohibit alcohol everywhere in the country because some guy killed himself through his own idiocy while we are at it.

 

yeah everyone should be allowed to get drunk at their workplace

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hey lets just prohibit alcohol everywhere in the country because some guy killed himself through his own idiocy while we are at it.

 

yeah everyone should be allowed to get drunk at their workplace

 

I know it would make my job a lot better.

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hey lets just prohibit alcohol everywhere in the country because some guy killed himself through his own idiocy while we are at it.

 

yeah everyone should be allowed to get drunk at their workplace

 

I know it would make my job a lot better.

it's good to be your own boss....just gotta remember, table saw work b4 cocktails

 

EDIT: really any saw work before cocktails

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i worked in sports for four years at several different levels. regardless of what level you are at, beer is almost always provided to the players, either in the lockeroom/clubhouse after a game. we always had beer on the bus/plane too. it's commonplace in any sport and to ban it is ridiculous. you ask those players to go out there and bust their ass and all most want at the end of a game is a beer, and now that can't have it.

 

cardinals ruin everything. can't wait to see what gets banned next when another one of those dumbasses die.

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hey lets just prohibit alcohol everywhere in the country because some guy killed himself through his own idiocy while we are at it.

 

yeah everyone should be allowed to get drunk at their workplace

 

I know it would make my job a lot better.

 

Mine too.

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you ask those players to go out there and bust their ass and all most want at the end of a game is a beer, and now that can't have it.

 

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i worked in sports for four years at several different levels. regardless of what level you are at, beer is almost always provided to the players, either in the lockeroom/clubhouse after a game. we always had beer on the bus/plane too. it's commonplace in any sport and to ban it is ridiculous. you ask those players to go out there and bust their ass and all most want at the end of a game is a beer, and now that can't have it.

 

Bars and restaurants have been. Players have beer at their homes. Why can't they go somewhere other than their workplace and drink a beer after the game?

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Bars and restaurants have been. Players have beer at their homes. Why can't they go somewhere other than their workplace and drink a beer after the game?

 

why can't they have both? they aren't on the clock anymore. i know TONS of places that allow an afterwork cocktail in the office. how many law offices have you been to in which one of the partners has a bar in their office? just about every one i've ever been in does. what about drinking at a company golf outing? does a company not assume the exact same liability at a work function during business hours as a clubhouse does post game? there are several examples of alcohol consumed in the workplace. this is just a kneejerk reaction to a known drunk and drug abuser slamming into the back of a tow truck. just the cardinals out ruining things for the rest of the world. i'm amazed that the hippocrites didn't ban alcohol in the city of st. louis after tony got all hammered and decided an intersection would be a good place for a nap. i'm actually impressed by the number of teams that have decided to stick to their guns on the subject. how many guys have gotten too loaded in the clubhouse and killed themselves? none that i know of.

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i worked in sports for four years at several different levels. regardless of what level you are at, beer is almost always provided to the players, either in the lockeroom/clubhouse after a game. we always had beer on the bus/plane too. it's commonplace in any sport and to ban it is ridiculous. you ask those players to go out there and bust their ass and all most want at the end of a game is a beer, and now that can't have it.

 

Bars and restaurants have been. Players have beer at their homes. Why can't they go somewhere other than their workplace and drink a beer after the game?

 

I agree. It's not that big of an inconvenience to not allow the players to have beer in the clubhouse.

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hey lets just prohibit alcohol everywhere in the country because some guy killed himself through his own idiocy while we are at it.

 

yeah everyone should be allowed to get drunk at their workplace

 

cus they are clearly getting drunk in the clubhouse ALL the time :roll:

 

the guy who killed himself on the cards got lit at the bar, not the clubhouse..how many mlb players lately have gotten DUIs driving home from the game?

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hey lets just prohibit alcohol everywhere in the country because some guy killed himself through his own idiocy while we are at it.

 

yeah everyone should be allowed to get drunk at their workplace

 

cus they are clearly getting drunk in the clubhouse ALL the time :roll:

 

the guy who killed himself on the cards got lit at the bar, not the clubhouse..how many mlb players lately have gotten DUIs driving home from the game?

 

And how many get pulled over but the police let them go because they are baseball players? I'm guessing more than the number who actually get DUI's. Just because the number of DUI's isn't high doesn't mean they aren't driving while over the legal limit.

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