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I don't know the lineup but Theriot is at 2B, Izturis at SS, and DeRosa is in RF.

 

With the logjam that we have in the OF, we are starting Derosa in RF? WHY ??????????

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I don't know the lineup but Theriot is at 2B, Izturis at SS, and DeRosa is in RF.

 

What the hell? That doesn't make any sense. I kind of understand the idea of fitting Izturius to theoretically give Guzman some better defense to back him up, but DeRosa in RF instead of Murton or Jacque or Floyd deprives him of some decent offensive support. I hope this isn't actually the lineup.

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I don't know the lineup but Theriot is at 2B, Izturis at SS, and DeRosa is in RF.

 

What the hell? That doesn't make any sense. I kind of understand the idea of fitting Izturius to theoretically give Guzman some better defense to back him up, but DeRosa in RF instead of Murton or Jacque or Floyd deprives him of some decent offensive support. I hope this isn't actually the lineup.

 

Is Murton in CF? If not I hope that Bruce or another beat writer will give us the real scoop on the situation. Is he hurt? Is he in Lou's doghouse? Did he get traded for a A+ prospect?

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I don't know the lineup but Theriot is at 2B, Izturis at SS, and DeRosa is in RF.

 

What the hell? That doesn't make any sense. I kind of understand the idea of fitting Izturius to theoretically give Guzman some better defense to back him up, but DeRosa in RF instead of Murton or Jacque or Floyd deprives him of some decent offensive support. I hope this isn't actually the lineup.

 

Is Murton in CF? If not I hope that Bruce or another beat writer will give us the real scoop on the situation. Is he hurt? Is he in Lou's doghouse?

 

I highly doubt that Murton will ever start in CF. Floyd's back must still be bothering him if he's not in RF. As far as why no Jacque with Pie in center ... :?

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I don't know the lineup but Theriot is at 2B, Izturis at SS, and DeRosa is in RF.

 

What the hell? That doesn't make any sense. I kind of understand the idea of fitting Izturius to theoretically give Guzman some better defense to back him up, but DeRosa in RF instead of Murton or Jacque or Floyd deprives him of some decent offensive support. I hope this isn't actually the lineup.

 

DeRosa eats lefties for breakfast, historically. Even has a better OPS the last two years against lefties than Murton.

 

Yes, the best lineup would be Murton and Derosa both, but someone wants Izturis to play today apparently. Derosa's definitely a better choice than Floyd/Jacque against a generic lefty.

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I don't know the lineup but Theriot is at 2B, Izturis at SS, and DeRosa is in RF.

 

What the hell? That doesn't make any sense. I kind of understand the idea of fitting Izturius to theoretically give Guzman some better defense to back him up, but DeRosa in RF instead of Murton or Jacque or Floyd deprives him of some decent offensive support. I hope this isn't actually the lineup.

 

DeRosa eats lefties for breakfast, historically. Even has a better OPS the last two years against lefties than Murton.

 

Yes, the best lineup would be Murton and Derosa both, but someone wants Izturis to play today apparently. Derosa's definitely a better choice than Floyd/Jacque against a generic lefty.

 

Shawn Hill is a right-hander though-unless they have changed pitchers and I haven't seen it.

 

With Cedeno down, this lineup doesn't make much sense to me-you really can't take out Izturis, Theriot, or DeRosa now early because that would leave you 2 IF's and no backup.

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I don't know the lineup but Theriot is at 2B, Izturis at SS, and DeRosa is in RF.

 

What the hell? That doesn't make any sense. I kind of understand the idea of fitting Izturius to theoretically give Guzman some better defense to back him up, but DeRosa in RF instead of Murton or Jacque or Floyd deprives him of some decent offensive support. I hope this isn't actually the lineup.

 

Is Murton in CF? If not I hope that Bruce or another beat writer will give us the real scoop on the situation. Is he hurt? Is he in Lou's doghouse?

 

I highly doubt that Murton will ever start in CF. Floyd's back must still be bothering him if he's not in RF. As far as why no Jacque with Pie in center ... :?

 

Murton has played 1 game in CF so far this season.

 

Edit: Nevermind. That was only 1 inning.

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Jones might be in CF and, reportedly, both Floyd and Murton have nagging back injuries (DeRosa too for that matter) but that could be why Mark is in RF today.
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I don't know the lineup but Theriot is at 2B, Izturis at SS, and DeRosa is in RF.

 

What the hell? That doesn't make any sense. I kind of understand the idea of fitting Izturius to theoretically give Guzman some better defense to back him up, but DeRosa in RF instead of Murton or Jacque or Floyd deprives him of some decent offensive support. I hope this isn't actually the lineup.

 

Is Murton in CF? If not I hope that Bruce or another beat writer will give us the real scoop on the situation. Is he hurt? Is he in Lou's doghouse?

 

I highly doubt that Murton will ever start in CF. Floyd's back must still be bothering him if he's not in RF. As far as why no Jacque with Pie in center ... :?

 

Murton has played 1 game in CF so far this season.

 

Edit: Nevermind. That was only 1 inning.

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he went to center in the game that Soriano got hurt in. Don't remember exactly why, but he was our best option at the time.

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I don't know the lineup but Theriot is at 2B, Izturis at SS, and DeRosa is in RF.

 

What the hell? That doesn't make any sense. I kind of understand the idea of fitting Izturius to theoretically give Guzman some better defense to back him up, but DeRosa in RF instead of Murton or Jacque or Floyd deprives him of some decent offensive support. I hope this isn't actually the lineup.

 

Is Murton in CF? If not I hope that Bruce or another beat writer will give us the real scoop on the situation. Is he hurt? Is he in Lou's doghouse?

 

I highly doubt that Murton will ever start in CF. Floyd's back must still be bothering him if he's not in RF. As far as why no Jacque with Pie in center ... :?

 

Murton has played 1 game in CF so far this season.

 

Edit: Nevermind. That was only 1 inning.

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he went to center in the game that Soriano got hurt in. Don't remember exactly why, but he was our best option at the time.

 

It wasn't the game he got hurt in, it was the game he came back in. Soriano pinch-hit for Pie in the 9th down 2 runs to the Cardinals. Jones had already been pinch-hit for earlier in the game, so when Soriano had to come out for the pinch-runner after he doubled there was nobody left but Murton to play CF in the 10th.

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I don't know the lineup but Theriot is at 2B, Izturis at SS, and DeRosa is in RF.

 

What the hell? That doesn't make any sense. I kind of understand the idea of fitting Izturius to theoretically give Guzman some better defense to back him up, but DeRosa in RF instead of Murton or Jacque or Floyd deprives him of some decent offensive support. I hope this isn't actually the lineup.

 

Is Murton in CF? If not I hope that Bruce or another beat writer will give us the real scoop on the situation. Is he hurt? Is he in Lou's doghouse?

 

I highly doubt that Murton will ever start in CF. Floyd's back must still be bothering him if he's not in RF. As far as why no Jacque with Pie in center ... :?

 

Murton has played 1 game in CF so far this season.

 

Edit: Nevermind. That was only 1 inning.

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he went to center in the game that Soriano got hurt in. Don't remember exactly why, but he was our best option at the time.

 

It wasn't the game he got hurt in, it was the game he came back in. Soriano pinch-hit for Pie in the 9th down 2 runs to the Cardinals. Jones had already been pinch-hit for earlier in the game, so when Soriano had to come out for the pinch-runner after he doubled there was nobody left but Murton to play CF in the 10th.

 

Aha. I knew him playing in center had something to do with Sori's injury, but wasn't positive how. I remember that now because we were wondering after DeRosa tied the game and we went to extras who would play center. I had horrible thoughts at the time it'd be Floyd. :shock:

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If Pie isnt starting today, then why in the hell keep him up. Seriously this is so damn stupid to have your 22 yr old best prospect sitting on your bench. Let the kid play somewhere either here, or in Iowa. Why put Derosa in the OF when you have a surplus of OF's. Put Derosa at 2nd Theriot as SS Pie in CF and either Jones of Murton in right. Theriots D at ss is not horrible enough to justify starting Izturis.
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If Pie isnt starting today, then why in the hell keep him up. Seriously this is so damn stupid to have your 22 yr old best prospect sitting on your bench. Let the kid play somewhere either here, or in Iowa. Why put Derosa in the OF when you have a surplus of OF's. Put Derosa at 2nd Theriot as SS Pie in CF and either Jones of Murton in right. Theriots D at ss is not horrible enough to justify starting Izturis.

 

Probably won't make you feel better, but I 100% guarantee Pie is a late inning defensive replacement in this game.

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If Pie isnt starting today, then why in the hell keep him up. Seriously this is so damn stupid to have your 22 yr old best prospect sitting on your bench. Let the kid play somewhere either here, or in Iowa. Why put Derosa in the OF when you have a surplus of OF's. Put Derosa at 2nd Theriot as SS Pie in CF and either Jones of Murton in right. Theriots D at ss is not horrible enough to justify starting Izturis.

 

With Floyd hurt, Pie could be starting and either Murton or Jones sitting. I would guess (though I hope I'm wrong) Jones in left, Pie in center and DeRosa in right.

 

The question then is, why isn't Murton starting? Not sure, unless his back is bothering him again.

 

EDIT: Yeah, I completely forgot about our 136-million dollar man in center. Thus, Jones in left, Sori in center and DeRosa in right is likely. Though there's a chance Soriano could be in left and Pie in center.

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Soriano is now the regular starting Left Fielder. He won't be in CF any longer.

 

Is this definite? Last I heard, they were considering playing him in left some early on after his injury.

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Soriano is now the regular starting Left Fielder. He won't be in CF any longer.

 

Is this definite? Last I heard, they were considering playing him in left some early on after his injury.

 

Yes

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(No sarcasm. Seriously.) -- Am I the only person on this board who would rather see us trade Murton over JJ?

 

i hope so. i don't know why you would want to keep the guy making a couple million for 2 more years over the guy making peanuts over the next several years. given the fact that their offense is comparable and any advantage jones has on defense is mitigated by the fact that he makes more money by a lot, it doesn't make sense to trade Murton unless there are absolutely no suitors for Jones -- and I doubt that's true.

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