4/17 Cubs (Miller) vs. Fathers (Maddux), 1:20 pm CT, WGN

[Brian]

end da game plz.

[jersey cubs fan]

Did you think the Cardinals were a top ten team in your head, say, August 1st of 06?

 

Just like the miraculous comeback by the Astros in '05, the Cubs should not make their decisions based on how they compare to what the Cardinals were like last year.

 

Why not? Basing plans off of world champions and practically yearly division champions is bad?

 

Hoping to emulate lucky flukes is poor planning. The Cubs should try and build a 90+ game winner that is capable of 100 wins, not a team that might squeek by if things go their way.

[Soul]

End it. Now.

[NewUserName]

 

Really? How often does a inferior team win the WS. Last one I can think of before last year was 88 Dodgers and than 85 Royals.

 

So, basically, if we aren't the runaway best team we should just wrap it up and play kids?

 

Playing Murton is not wrapping it up. He's as good as Floyd and Jones, at least, and should get better. None of the Cubs OF is an ideal OF, they need all of them to produce if they hope to succeed.

 

I would say if we are CLEARLY not a top ten team then I would say there is no reason to play a past prime player over a player who is major league ready.

 

Did you think the Cardinals were a top ten team in your head, say, August 1st of 06?

 

 

No, but back to my point of how many times does a inferior team win a WS? Maybe 2 other times in my lifetime. If you throw in the 69 Mets that would be 3 other times in my 40+ years. I would rather take my chances with a young player who has shown plenty of ability to improve than a chance that this team will win the WS. I would even go as far as saying that playing Floyd over Murton would only mean one or two wins anyway.

[DiamondMind]

Makes me feel better that no matter what, tomorrow is Rich Hill day.

[Omar]

LETS GET A RUN!

[DiamondMind]

Did you think the Cardinals were a top ten team in your head, say, August 1st of 06?

 

Just like the miraculous comeback by the Astros in '05, the Cubs should not make their decisions based on how they compare to what the Cardinals were like last year.

 

Why not? Basing plans off of world champions and practically yearly division champions is bad?

 

Hoping to emulate lucky flukes is poor planning. The Cubs should try and build a 90+ game winner that is capable of 100 wins, not a team that might squeek by if things go their way.

 

I think Cubs fans are the only fans that perceive the Cards as a lucky franchise. Give them some respect already.

Edited April 17, 2007 by DiamondMind

[98navigator]

Dempster warming

[Banedon]

Did you think the Cardinals were a top ten team in your head, say, August 1st of 06?

 

Just like the miraculous comeback by the Astros in '05, the Cubs should not make their decisions based on how they compare to what the Cardinals were like last year.

 

Why not? Basing plans off of world champions and practically yearly division champions is bad?

 

If it snows in July this year, I don't think I'll be making any ski plans in my area for the following July.

 

Now we're comparing baseball to the weather?

 

We're saying that because a fluke bad team won the WS, doesn't mean that that flukiness is a model for success. Sometimes a fluke is just a fluke.

 

The trend is that it doesn't snow in July. The trend is that bad teams don't win the WS.

Edited April 17, 2007 by Banedon

[Omar]

Makes me feel better that no matter what, tomorrow is Rich Hill day.

 

Hypothetically... If this game keeps going on and Demp & Ohman are used.. Rich Hill can come in, right?

[otis89]

Makes me feel better that no matter what, tomorrow is Rich Hill day.

 

Z is pitching tomorrow.

[soccer10k]

Makes me feel better that no matter what, tomorrow is Rich Hill day.

 

Z is pitching tomorrow.

[TruffleShuffle]

boy, coming into this game the cubs had the fourth highest BABIP in baseball and the third highest BA with RISP. that's disturbing considering how piss-poor the offense has been in about 80% of the game they've played.

[DiamondMind]

 

We're saying that because a fluke bad team won the WS, doesn't mean that that flukiness is a model for success. Sometimes a fluke is just a fluke.

 

The 2006 Cardinals were not a fluke.

[Shilzzz]

 

Really? How often does a inferior team win the WS. Last one I can think of before last year was 88 Dodgers and than 85 Royals.

 

So, basically, if we aren't the runaway best team we should just wrap it up and play kids?

 

Playing Murton is not wrapping it up. He's as good as Floyd and Jones, at least, and should get better. None of the Cubs OF is an ideal OF, they need all of them to produce if they hope to succeed.

 

I would say if we are CLEARLY not a top ten team then I would say there is no reason to play a past prime player over a player who is major league ready.

 

Did you think the Cardinals were a top ten team in your head, say, August 1st of 06?

 

 

No, but back to my point of how many times does a inferior team win a WS? Maybe 2 other times in my lifetime. If you throw in the 69 Mets that would be 3 other times in my 40+ years. I would rather take my chances with a young player who has shown plenty of ability to improve than a chance that this team will win the WS. I would even go as far as saying that playing Floyd over Murton would only mean one or two wins anyway.

 

this isn't exactly about the 'game.' it's taking up a lot of space here...

[jersey cubs fan]

Did you think the Cardinals were a top ten team in your head, say, August 1st of 06?

 

Just like the miraculous comeback by the Astros in '05, the Cubs should not make their decisions based on how they compare to what the Cardinals were like last year.

 

Why not? Basing plans off of world champions and practically yearly division champions is bad?

 

Hoping to emulate lucky flukes is poor planning. The Cubs should try and build a 90+ game winner that is capable of 100 wins, not a team that might squeek by if things go their way.

 

I think Cubs fans are the only fans that perceive the Cards as a lucky franchise. Give them some respect already.

 

I'm not saying the Cardinals are a lucky franchise. I'm saying the 2006 Cardinals, like the 2005 Astros, got lucky to get where they went.

[DiamondMind]

Makes me feel better that no matter what, tomorrow is Rich Hill day.

 

Z is pitching tomorrow.

 

Is he? Aww...

 

Did I just get depressed Z is pitching over Hill? Times have changed.

[otis89]

 

We're saying that because a fluke bad team won the WS, doesn't mean that that flukiness is a model for success. Sometimes a fluke is just a fluke.

 

The 2006 Cardinals were not a fluke.

 

How is an 83-win team winning the World Series not a fluke? The Mets were clearly the best team in the NL last year.

[98navigator]

DLee Ks

[Omar]

First K of the game.

[Flames24Rulz]

Bad AB by Derrek.

[bukie]

I think Cubs fans are the only fans that perceive the Cards as a lucky franchise. Give them some respect already.

 

They were fortunate to make the playoffs, let alone win it all. I have much more respect for their '05 team. Building a strategy to try to duplicate an 83-win division winner is aiming much, much too low.

[soccer10k]

 

We're saying that because a fluke bad team won the WS, doesn't mean that that flukiness is a model for success. Sometimes a fluke is just a fluke.

 

The 2006 Cardinals were not a fluke.

 

How often does a team win 83 games and still goes to the playoffs? Not too often.

[TruffleShuffle]

 

We're saying that because a fluke bad team won the WS, doesn't mean that that flukiness is a model for success. Sometimes a fluke is just a fluke.

 

The 2006 Cardinals were not a fluke.

 

lowest amount of wins for a world series winning team... that's not a fluke?

[Outshined_One]

6 innings of no-hit ball for the Padres bullpen. Yikes.