4/17 Cubs (Miller) vs. Fathers (Maddux), 1:20 pm CT, WGN

[CubColtPacer]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

Not the losses-just this loss. The offense Sunday and the offense yesterday were two completely different things.

 

Between the 6th and the 9th, the Cubs offense hit 5 hard hit low line drives-1 directly at the first baseman, 2 directly at the shortstop, and 2 hit directly at the 3rd baseman.

 

In extra innings, the Cubs hit 4 balls that would have been home runs on any average day-none of them left the park.

 

Could they have won the game even with all that bad luck? Yes-but yesterday, the Cubs were pretty unlucky-while Sunday had a ball or two that were unlucky, but most of it was simply a horrible offensive performance.

 

Is that luck, or is that the reason those people play those positions -- because that's where most of the balls are hit?

 

The people play those spots so that they can cover the available ground from right to left, not necessarily because that's exactly where the most balls are hit-of course I think you know that :D

[jersey cubs fan]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

Not the losses-just this loss. The offense Sunday and the offense yesterday were two completely different things.

 

That's what happens when you construct a roster as poorly as Jim Hendry. It's a feast or famine offense. They will look completely different from day to day, but more often than not, they will look bad.

 

The Cubs were lucky that game even went into extra innings. They had a terrible pitching performance but remained in the game.

[jersey cubs fan]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

Over the course of the season things tend to even out but as far as a single game goes, luck can play a pretty large factor. Do you disagree?

 

Yes, luck plays a part in the game. No, the Cubs didn't lose yesterday because of bad luck.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

Over the course of the season things tend to even out but as far as a single game goes, luck can play a pretty large factor. Do you disagree?

 

Yes, luck plays a part in the game. No, the Cubs didn't lose yesterday because of bad luck.

 

Correct, it was because they picked high winds day at the ball park to start elevating the ball.

[Chocolate Milk]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

Over the course of the season things tend to even out but as far as a single game goes, luck can play a pretty large factor. Do you disagree?

 

Yes, luck plays a part in the game. No, the Cubs didn't lose yesterday because of bad luck.

 

The BABIP for the Cubs from yesterday is indicitave of bad luck to me. But since it usually evens out in the end, I'm not particularly upset about dropping one here as we'll likely get lucky at some point in the future.

 

Edit: Wanted to add that I'm not saying luck was the only factor that contributed to the Cubs losing yesterday, just that it was a factor.

Edited April 18, 2007 by Chocolate Milk

[C.C.]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

Over the course of the season things tend to even out but as far as a single game goes, luck can play a pretty large factor. Do you disagree?

 

Yes, luck plays a part in the game. No, the Cubs didn't lose yesterday because of bad luck.

 

The BABIP for the Cubs from yesterday is indicitave of bad luck to me. But since it usually evens out in the end, I'm not particularly upset about dropping one here as we'll likely get lucky at some point in the future.

 

Don't count on it. Luck and the Cubs don't go together...

[98navigator]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

Not the losses-just this loss. The offense Sunday and the offense yesterday were two completely different things.

 

That's what happens when you construct a roster as poorly as Jim Hendry. It's a feast or famine offense. They will look completely different from day to day, but more often than not, they will look bad.

 

The Cubs were lucky that game even went into extra innings. They had a terrible pitching performance but remained in the game.

 

Maddux pitched poorly as well. The Padres bullpen allowed them to win the game.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Well, the Cubs are already 2 games under their pythagorean record.

[jersey cubs fan]

Well, the Cubs are already 2 games under their pythagorean record.

 

That'll happen this early in the season when you have a feast or famine offense. When you score as much as 6, 7, 9 and 12 in your wins, it'll offset a couple 0, 1, 2 and 3 run efforts in a loss. They are averaging 2.5 runs per loss and 7.6 per win.

[soccer10k]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

I'm blaming luck (re: the wind blowing in) for the Cubs only scoring 3 runs yesterday. That doesn't necessarily mean that the Cubs would have won the game since the Padres wouldn't have been held to 3 runs through 9 innings either. It would have been a completely different game had there been no wind or if the wind was blowing out. But that doesn't mean the Cubs would have won the game.

[jersey cubs fan]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

I'm blaming luck (re: the wind blowing in) for the Cubs only scoring 3 runs yesterday.

 

That is not luck. It's a well known fact of life about April baseball.

[soccer10k]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

I'm blaming luck (re: the wind blowing in) for the Cubs only scoring 3 runs yesterday.

 

That is not luck. It's a well known fact of life about April baseball.

 

Which way the wind is blowing is hardly a fact.

[rawaction]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

I'm blaming luck (re: the wind blowing in) for the Cubs only scoring 3 runs yesterday.

 

That is not luck. It's a well known fact of life about April baseball.

 

Which way the wind is blowing is hardly a fact.

 

It makes no sense to say it's luck though. I would say there's a 3 in 4 chance that in an April game with the temperature below 60, that the wind will be blowing in.

 

And 3/4 is being generous.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

I'm blaming luck (re: the wind blowing in) for the Cubs only scoring 3 runs yesterday.

 

That is not luck. It's a well known fact of life about April baseball.

 

Which way the wind is blowing is hardly a fact.

 

The winds often are blowing in on cooler/colder days - and there are quite a few of those in April.

[seanimal]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

I'm blaming luck (re: the wind blowing in) for the Cubs only scoring 3 runs yesterday.

 

That is not luck. It's a well known fact of life about April baseball.

 

Which way the wind is blowing is hardly a fact.

 

The winds often are blowing in on cooler/colder days - and there are quite a few of those in April.

 

Stupid Lake Michigan.

 

On the other hand, I hear that Lake Michigan is draining. This could be a good sign for the 2107 Cubs.

[jersey cubs fan]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

I'm blaming luck (re: the wind blowing in) for the Cubs only scoring 3 runs yesterday.

 

That is not luck. It's a well known fact of life about April baseball.

 

Which way the wind is blowing is hardly a fact.

 

Actually it is a fact. If the wind is blowing out of the east, that's a fact.

 

But I was calling it a fact of life of April baseball.

[soccer10k]

Oh no. We're already blaming luck for the losses?

 

I'm blaming luck (re: the wind blowing in) for the Cubs only scoring 3 runs yesterday.

 

That is not luck. It's a well known fact of life about April baseball.

 

Which way the wind is blowing is hardly a fact.

 

Actually it is a fact. If the wind is blowing out of the east, that's a fact.

 

But I was calling it a fact of life of April baseball.

 

It's not very hard to know if the wind is blowing in a certain direction whether it will be blowing in or out at Wrigley. I'm referring to knowing in advance (i.e. a few days before). Can you tell me which way the wind will be blowing on Friday in Chicago when the Cubs play the Cardinals. No you can't. You can take a guess, and in this case it would be an educated and logical guess, but it would still be a guess. It's not a fact. It's not a certainty. It's a guess. There's a difference.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Well, the Cubs are already 2 games under their pythagorean record.

 

That'll happen this early in the season when you have a feast or famine offense. When you score as much as 6, 7, 9 and 12 in your wins, it'll offset a couple 0, 1, 2 and 3 run efforts in a loss. They are averaging 2.5 runs per loss and 7.6 per win.

 

While it's true we probably won't have the most consistent offense, that's not the entire reason for our early misfortune. Our last 5 losses have all been by 2 runs or less, making us 0-5 on the season in those games. That's a bit unlucky as well.

[jersey cubs fan]

It's not very hard to know if the wind is blowing in a certain direction whether it will be blowing in or out at Wrigley. I'm referring to knowing in advance (i.e. a few days before). Can you tell me which way the wind will be blowing on Friday in Chicago when the Cubs play the Cardinals. No you can't. You can take a guess, and in this case it would be an educated and logical guess, but it would still be a guess. It's not a fact. It's not a certainty. It's a guess. There's a difference.

 

This is an absurd bit of reasoning. What does it matter if you don't know a few days in advance? Wind direction is a fact, it's not opinion. Furthermore, it's a fact of life in April baseball that the wind will often blow in.

[soccer10k]

It's not very hard to know if the wind is blowing in a certain direction whether it will be blowing in or out at Wrigley. I'm referring to knowing in advance (i.e. a few days before). Can you tell me which way the wind will be blowing on Friday in Chicago when the Cubs play the Cardinals. No you can't. You can take a guess, and in this case it would be an educated and logical guess, but it would still be a guess. It's not a fact. It's not a certainty. It's a guess. There's a difference.

 

This is an absurd bit of reasoning. What does it matter if you don't know a few days in advance? Wind direction is a fact, it's not opinion. Furthermore, it's a fact of life in April baseball that the wind will often blow in.

 

You're missing my point but I'm not going to bother arguing this anymore. It's a waste of time.