Jones withdraws trade request

[Electron Blue]

Are we sure Jones even made a trade request in the first place?

 

Ironically, I think this story is the closest thing to confirmation of a trade request we've seen. It's Piniella's quote that announce that the request is withdrawn, thus at one point it was requested.

[Butterscup1679666578]

A Floyd-Jones platoon will look mighty nice this year. I like to see this from JJ, hopefully Lou uses him and Floyd properly.

[SouthSideRyan]

FLOYD CAN'T PLATOON WITH JONES THEY'RE BOTH LEFTIES.

 

Anywho, the OF defense won't be bad. I'd put them as slightly above average range wise.

[Balsa]

Floyd vs. LHP (career)

.272 .330 .466 .796

 

Jones vs. LHP (career)

.228 .275 .350 .625

[Monco]

Trade him at the deadline.

[Pushfrog98]

A Floyd-Jones platoon will look mighty nice this year. I like to see this from JJ, hopefully Lou uses him and Floyd properly.

 

We should definitely go with an outfield of

 

LF: Cliff Floyd

CF: Jacque Jones

RF: Daryle Ward

 

vs. LHP. I mean, it makes sense, doesn't it?

 

 

[/sarcasm]

[CubsWin]

Trade him at the deadline.

If Pie is ready, that's the smart way to go, IMO.

[nilodnayr]

Is it pretty much a foregone conclusion around here that DeRosa will bat 2nd, Barrett 6th, and Murton 7th?

 

Personally, I think Murton would be the better choice in the two hole, but if DeRosa matches his numbers from last year, I can't really complain with him in the two hole.

 

From everything I've gathered so far, DeRosa and Izturis are the top two candidates to bat 2nd. Since Izturis would be the absolute worst option there of anyone on the roster, I'm hoping for DeRosa. I would be thrilled to see Murton there and I hope that the real choice ends up being between Murton and DeRosa.

 

I'd probably prefer Murton bat ahead of Barrett if Murton is not batting 2nd, but I'm not sure that will happen. You have to figure on days that Blanco plays, you definitely don't want Blanco hitting ahead of Murton. In other words, a set line up of:

 

Soriano

DeRosa

Lee

Ramirez

Jones

Floyd/Murton

Barrett

Izturis

 

would keep things somewhat consistent from day to day.

 

You think they would bat two lefties back to back?

[Handlebar McSkullet]

Im really scared of our Defense in the Outfield..Murton is so-so, Soriano we dont know what were gunna get yet, and Jones and his robotic arm..It's real good from a Offense prospective though, Murton will hit around 20 maybe,Soriano 40-50? , Jones around 25..Lets hope Soriano can be good out there and cover alot of ground and catch everything and Jones learns not to spike the ball in the ground

 

Jones does not have a robotic arm. If he did, we would be able to program it to be good.

 

Or that robotic arm is as technologically advanced as an apple II e. AH SNAP... NERDY JOKES MIXED WITH CUBS TALK....PRICELESS.

[MPrior]

Not to rehash an old argument (I mean, what else do we do around here anyway?), but I will REALLY hate it if Murton loses significant playing time to Floyd. Murton, as far as anyone can tell, is on his way up, and he was already pretty decent last year. Floyd, while occasionally very good, is definitely on the way down.

 

I like Floyd as a 4th outfielder - he can be a very good hitter. The idea of him platooning with Murton really gets my goat, though.

 

I really like the phrase "gets my goat," even though I have no idea what it means.

[A New Era]

This is pretty funny. From urban dictionary. .

 

Pissing someone off with the intent of pissing them off does not gain you a goat.

 

EXAMPLE OF VALID GOAT GETTING:

Jeff : Hey, how you doing?

Sam: fine, how are you.

Jeff: Good, and you?

Sam: I'm fine.

Jeff: That's good, how are you?

{repeat}

Sam: *pissed*

 

Jeff just got Sam's goat.

 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Get+Your+Goat you should read it. It's pretty funny. .

[Guest]

Floyd vs. LHP (career)

.272 .330 .466 .796

 

Jones vs. LHP (career)

.228 .275 .350 .625

 

 

given those numbers, I guess it does make a lick of sense. At least replacing Jones with Floyd against lefties. of course, then you might as well play Floyd every day since he is a better hitter against righties than Jones as well. Hopefully Lou can manage to get Jones on the bench frequently and against all LHP - perhaps each corner OF gets 450-500 PAs although I would prefer to see Murton and Floyd each get more than Jones.

[CubColtPacer]

Floyd vs. LHP (career)

.272 .330 .466 .796

 

Jones vs. LHP (career)

.228 .275 .350 .625

 

 

given those numbers, I guess it does make a lick of sense. At least replacing Jones with Floyd against lefties. of course, then you might as well play Floyd every day since he is a better hitter against righties than Jones as well. Hopefully Lou can manage to get Jones on the bench frequently and against all LHP - perhaps each corner OF gets 450-500 PAs although I would prefer to see Murton and Floyd each get more than Jones.

 

I'm actually not sure they want to get Floyd that many at-bats-the more at-bats he has in a short amount of time, the more likely it will be he will get hurt. I see Floyd taking a few of the left-handed at bats from Jones and a few of the right-handed bats from Murton-if neither Murton or Jones get hurt, I see Floyd getting 250-300 AB's overall. Besides, the big problem with playing Floyd and Murton everyday is the outfield defense-one of them could possibly play right field occasionally, but I wouldn't want that to happen on a routine basis.

[Soul]

So it's Murt/Soriano/Jones, with Floyd subbing in. Maybe a little smattering of Ward

 

Do we have a real defensive outfield option?

[CuseCubFan69]

So it's Murt/Soriano/Jones, with Floyd subbing in. Maybe a little smattering of Ward

 

Do we have a real defensive outfield option?

 

Throw Pagan in there and you have no "defensive" outfield guys on the team.

 

I'm curious about that guy the Cubs signed that could play infield that had a very nice OBP? He was signed to a minor league deal and I was wondering if he played the OF at all.

 

I have to say if Lou told Jones he's "penciled in" at the 5 spot I'll be a little annoyed. I do not want him there when the Cubs face a lefty and if Floyd is hitting well and in the lineup at the same time as Jones I want him hitting 5th not Jones. Of course Lou did say penciled in and not written in stone, so that makes me feel better.

[BigbadB]

You think they would bat two lefties back to back?

 

I don't think they really have all that much choice in games Floyd is playing. Neither Jones or Floyd should bat ahead of Lee and Aramis. Jones has already basically been promised to hit 5th. Are you going to bat Floyd 7th? I suppose they could, but it definitely wouldn't be a good idea to have Blanco hitting ahead of Floyd.

 

When Barrett plays, it's possible that he'll bat ahead of Floyd. But, I do think they'll go back to back a lot.

[YearofDaCubs]

If only Soriano could go back to 2B and be at least AVG defensively. This is what our lineup would be:

 

Soriano - 2B

Murton - LF

Lee - 1B

ARam - 3B

JJones - RF

Barrett - C

DeRosa - SS

Pie - CF

PITCHER

 

Anything to get rid of Izturworthless from the lineup. I know I'm dreaming but oh well.

[CuseCubFan69]

If only Soriano could go back to 2B and be at least AVG defensively. This is what our lineup would be:

 

Soriano - 2B

Murton - LF

Lee - 1B

ARam - 3B

JJones - RF

Barrett - C

DeRosa - SS

Pie - CF

PITCHER

 

Anything to get rid of Izturworthless from the lineup. I know I'm dreaming but oh well.

 

I'd rather have a below average RF than I would a below average SS and possible 2B.

[Soul]

If only Soriano could go back to 2B and be at least AVG defensively. This is what our lineup would be:

 

Soriano - 2B

Murton - LF

Lee - 1B

ARam - 3B

JJones - RF

Barrett - C

DeRosa - SS

Pie - CF

PITCHER

 

Anything to get rid of Izturworthless from the lineup. I know I'm dreaming but oh well.

 

It's been a long time since DeRosa played SS for significant games. I know Izzy's weak at the plate, but DeRosa/Soriano up the middle would likely be nightmarish.

 

Plus, that outfield is no better than last year's, and probably worse offensively since Pie is likely to struggle. I like the idea of plugging Soriano in the outfield better to boost offensive output while hopefully minimizing the defensive damage he can do.

[Amazing_Grace]

Are we sure Jones even made a trade request in the first place?

 

Ironically, I think this story is the closest thing to confirmation of a trade request we've seen. It's Piniella's quote that announce that the request is withdrawn, thus at one point it was requested.

 

That's what I was thinking when I posted. Kinda weird for a manager to publicly withdraw a trade request that no one in the organization, including the player and the GM, acknowledges actually took place.

[Bull]

Any way you dare go with an OF of Murton, Jones, and Floyd with Soriano at 2B?

[CubColtPacer]

Any way you dare go with an OF of Murton, Jones, and Floyd with Soriano at 2B?

 

I wouldn't-there is bad defense, and then there is that defense (that would possibly be one of the worst everyday defensive outfields that I have ever seen, and of course Soriano isn't exactly even ok at 2B). Plus, Floyd would get hurt quicker playing everyday, and the upgrade from taking DeRosa out of the lineup wouldn't be enough to justify all of that.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Who's going to play center - Jones or Soriano?

[CubColtPacer]

Who's going to play center - Jones or Soriano?

 

Soriano.

[imb]

Probably wont make too much of a difference.