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[Chris]

I wasn't aware that the Superdome was cursed

[BigSlick]

Considering everyone said if the Bears lose they are the biggest failures in the universe, please SOMEONE tell me the Ravens are now the biggest dissapointments ever?

 

What? Who's there? Oh yes, thats Mrr. Double-Standard. I forgot about you for a second.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Considering everyone said if the Bears lose they are the biggest failures in the universe, please SOMEONE tell me the Ravens are now the biggest dissapointments ever?

 

What? Who's there? Oh yes, thats Mrr. Double-Standard. I forgot about you for a second.

 

Because Colts = Seahawks? You're reaching.

[Careless]

Considering everyone said if the Bears lose they are the biggest failures in the universe, please SOMEONE tell me the Ravens are now the biggest dissapointments ever?

 

What? Who's there? Oh yes, thats Mrr. Double-Standard. I forgot about you for a second.

The colts ar e much much better than the seahawks.

[soccer10k]

Considering everyone said if the Bears lose they are the biggest failures in the universe, please SOMEONE tell me the Ravens are now the biggest dissapointments ever?

 

What? Who's there? Oh yes, thats Mrr. Double-Standard. I forgot about you for a second.

 

Baltimore was only favored by 3.5 over the Colts and they were at home. That translates into basically a toss up game if it was on a neutral field. The Bears are favored by 9 over Seattle not to mention that they pounded Seattle earlier this year. The Ravens and Colts were the 2 and 3 seeds while the Bears and Seahawks are the 1 and 4 seeds.

 

The only reason the Colts win is considered an upset is because they were playing on the road. If the Bears were on the road they would still be favored over the Seahawks.

 

It's not a double standard and the Ravens are not the biggest disappointment every. Your homerism is horribly clouding your judgment here.

[sethuel1]

WTF? Cingular is now AT&T? Didn't AT&T Wireless already become Cingular a couple years ago?

Ok, here's the deal: AT&T was the god of communications. Then they were broken up. Then, in the span of a couple years, cingular bought their cell phone service, SBC bought their long distance, and comcast bought their cable. They went from being one of the biggest companies in the world to not existing in a few years by being split into pieces, with the weird result that there are "AT&Ts" out there that provide different services owned by different companies.

 

Let me help. Cingular was owned by SBC. At&T wireless was owned by AT&T. When Cingular merged with AT&T wireless, Cingular became a joint venture between SBC and AT&T. Then SBC bought AT&T, and took the AT&T name. Therefore, in order to put all of their services under the same name, they are renaming Cingular as AT&T wireless.

[Chris]

The Baltimore Sun puts the loss right on McNair:

 

Error McNair in loss

[TruffleShuffle]

Considering everyone said if the Bears lose they are the biggest failures in the universe, please SOMEONE tell me the Ravens are now the biggest dissapointments ever?

 

What? Who's there? Oh yes, thats Mrr. Double-Standard. I forgot about you for a second.

 

Baltimore was only favored by 3.5 over the Colts and they were at home. That translates into basically a toss up game if it was on a neutral field. The Bears are favored by 9 over Seattle not to mention that they pounded Seattle earlier this year. The Ravens and Colts were the 2 and 3 seeds while the Bears and Seahawks are the 1 and 4 seeds.

 

The only reason the Colts win is considered an upset is because they were playing on the road. If the Bears were on the road they would still be favored over the Seahawks.

 

It's not a double standard and the Ravens are not the biggest disappointment every. Your homerism is horribly clouding your judgment here.

 

not to mention the bizarre paranoia about the media/referees that some fans seem to have

[OleMissCub]

GUEAUXXXXX SAINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BigSlick]

Considering everyone said if the Bears lose they are the biggest failures in the universe, please SOMEONE tell me the Ravens are now the biggest dissapointments ever?

 

What? Who's there? Oh yes, thats Mrr. Double-Standard. I forgot about you for a second.

 

Baltimore was only favored by 3.5 over the Colts and they were at home. That translates into basically a toss up game if it was on a neutral field. The Bears are favored by 9 over Seattle not to mention that they pounded Seattle earlier this year. The Ravens and Colts were the 2 and 3 seeds while the Bears and Seahawks are the 1 and 4 seeds.

 

The only reason the Colts win is considered an upset is because they were playing on the road. If the Bears were on the road they would still be favored over the Seahawks.

 

It's not a double standard and the Ravens are not the biggest disappointment every. Your homerism is horribly clouding your judgment here.

 

Thats not what I'm complaining about, I'm complaining about the fact that if the team has a bye and loses they should get the same treatment the Bears got last year. They were favored by just about as much as the Ravens were in this past game.

[BigSlick]

Considering everyone said if the Bears lose they are the biggest failures in the universe, please SOMEONE tell me the Ravens are now the biggest dissapointments ever?

 

What? Who's there? Oh yes, thats Mrr. Double-Standard. I forgot about you for a second.

 

Baltimore was only favored by 3.5 over the Colts and they were at home. That translates into basically a toss up game if it was on a neutral field. The Bears are favored by 9 over Seattle not to mention that they pounded Seattle earlier this year. The Ravens and Colts were the 2 and 3 seeds while the Bears and Seahawks are the 1 and 4 seeds.

 

The only reason the Colts win is considered an upset is because they were playing on the road. If the Bears were on the road they would still be favored over the Seahawks.

 

It's not a double standard and the Ravens are not the biggest disappointment every. Your homerism is horribly clouding your judgment here.

 

not to mention the bizarre paranoia about the media/referees that some fans seem to have

 

Wait, the media hasn't been getting after Rex Grossman the past...forever? I'm not saying its some sort of conspiracy to make him play badly or something, but there hasn't been a single quarterback that the media hasn't pointed at or laughed at as much as him. Its almost inexplicable how much crap he takes.

 

When Joey Harrington plays worse than him he's carrying the Dolphins on his back. :roll: :lol:

 

NO ONE HAS EVER SPOKEN OF PHILIP RIVERS' SUB-30 RATING GAME AND HIS RECENT STRUGGLES.

 

Its absurd. I don't know what it stems from, but its clearly there. In fact, if I just went by what the media has said about Rex Grossman I would be in favor of pulling him for Kyle Orton. Apparently Rex Grossman throws five picks a game. Five picks a game.

[Chris]

Colts killed the clock from 7:39 to :23 on their last drive

[Chris]

Colts giving up 73.5 YPG on the ground in the postseason :shock:

[soccer10k]

Considering everyone said if the Bears lose they are the biggest failures in the universe, please SOMEONE tell me the Ravens are now the biggest dissapointments ever?

 

What? Who's there? Oh yes, thats Mrr. Double-Standard. I forgot about you for a second.

 

Baltimore was only favored by 3.5 over the Colts and they were at home. That translates into basically a toss up game if it was on a neutral field. The Bears are favored by 9 over Seattle not to mention that they pounded Seattle earlier this year. The Ravens and Colts were the 2 and 3 seeds while the Bears and Seahawks are the 1 and 4 seeds.

 

The only reason the Colts win is considered an upset is because they were playing on the road. If the Bears were on the road they would still be favored over the Seahawks.

 

It's not a double standard and the Ravens are not the biggest disappointment every. Your homerism is horribly clouding your judgment here.

 

Thats not what I'm complaining about, I'm complaining about the fact that if the team has a bye and loses they should get the same treatment the Bears got last year. They were favored by just about as much as the Ravens were in this past game.

 

Well first you said "if the Bears lose" which led me to believe you were talking about this year and not last year. Second, I don't remember everybody calling the Bears " the biggest failures in the universe" after they lost to Carolina last year.

 

But if I was to guess why the Bears loss to the Panthers was a worse loss than the Ravens to the Colts it would be because of one thing: Steve Smith. Everybody knew the only offensive weapon the Panthers had was Steve Smith and that's it. Nothing else. But the Bears didn't do anything to take him out of the game like Seattle did and just let him do whatever he wanted.

[BigSlick]

Colts giving up 73.5 YPG on the ground in the postseason :shock:

 

I said it at the beginning of the post-season: Since the Colts had the absolute worst end of the season and everyone has counted them out they will win the Superbowl.

 

Its the same reasoning behind the St. Louis Cardinals. Since they collapsed at the end of the season and barely made the postseason everyone counted them out. The reverse jinx comes in, powers them through the postseason and they easily win the World Series.

 

Rule of thumb: The more I hate a team, the more likely it is they win a championship. Colts are about to take one down, right after the Sox and the Cardinals.

[BigSlick]

Considering everyone said if the Bears lose they are the biggest failures in the universe, please SOMEONE tell me the Ravens are now the biggest dissapointments ever?

 

What? Who's there? Oh yes, thats Mrr. Double-Standard. I forgot about you for a second.

 

Baltimore was only favored by 3.5 over the Colts and they were at home. That translates into basically a toss up game if it was on a neutral field. The Bears are favored by 9 over Seattle not to mention that they pounded Seattle earlier this year. The Ravens and Colts were the 2 and 3 seeds while the Bears and Seahawks are the 1 and 4 seeds.

 

The only reason the Colts win is considered an upset is because they were playing on the road. If the Bears were on the road they would still be favored over the Seahawks.

 

It's not a double standard and the Ravens are not the biggest disappointment every. Your homerism is horribly clouding your judgment here.

 

Thats not what I'm complaining about, I'm complaining about the fact that if the team has a bye and loses they should get the same treatment the Bears got last year. They were favored by just about as much as the Ravens were in this past game.

 

Well first you said "if the Bears lose" which led me to believe you were talking about this year and not last year. Second, I don't remember everybody calling the Bears " the biggest failures in the universe" after they lost to Carolina last year.

 

But if I was to guess why the Bears loss to the Panthers was a worse loss than the Ravens to the Colts it would be because of one thing: Steve Smith. Everybody knew the only offensive weapon the Panthers had was Steve Smith and that's it. Nothing else. But the Bears didn't do anything to take him out of the game like Seattle did and just let him do whatever he wanted.

 

Maybe its my paranoid crazy homer Bear fandom (quoting soccer) but I honestly do feel like Chicago gets a (at least slightly) worse rap by the media. I don't know why this is. It might because we let them down (somewhat) during the middle of the season after everyone was calling for us to sweep through the NFL and win everything. (Which we basically did anyway but not...impressive enough or something)

[Andy]

Wait, the media hasn't been getting after Rex Grossman the past...forever? I'm not saying its some sort of conspiracy to make him play badly or something, but there hasn't been a single quarterback that the media hasn't pointed at or laughed at as much as him. Its almost inexplicable how much crap he takes.

 

When Joey Harrington plays worse than him he's carrying the Dolphins on his back. :roll: :lol:

 

NO ONE HAS EVER SPOKEN OF PHILIP RIVERS' SUB-30 RATING GAME AND HIS RECENT STRUGGLES.

 

Its absurd. I don't know what it stems from, but its clearly there. In fact, if I just went by what the media has said about Rex Grossman I would be in favor of pulling him for Kyle Orton. Apparently Rex Grossman throws five picks a game. Five picks a game.

Seriously, are you out of your mind?

 

You're a Bears fan, and most football media you read or watch will be about the Bears. Inevitably, discussion of the Bears will eventually turn to the fact that they've gotten severely inconsistent and unpredictable play out of their QB this season, and that play is likely to have a big effect on whether the Bears win or lose tomorrow.

 

No one has talked about Rivers because LDT is a deity. If Rex had someone like LaDainian to give the ball, I suspect he wouldn't have to deal with as many questions either.

 

And I have never, once in my life, heard anyone, anywhere, say anything about Rex Grossman throwing five picks a game. Since he hasn't done that this year at all, I'm guessing you're either making this up in your head or...making this up in your head.

[soccer10k]

Considering everyone said if the Bears lose they are the biggest failures in the universe, please SOMEONE tell me the Ravens are now the biggest dissapointments ever?

 

What? Who's there? Oh yes, thats Mrr. Double-Standard. I forgot about you for a second.

 

Baltimore was only favored by 3.5 over the Colts and they were at home. That translates into basically a toss up game if it was on a neutral field. The Bears are favored by 9 over Seattle not to mention that they pounded Seattle earlier this year. The Ravens and Colts were the 2 and 3 seeds while the Bears and Seahawks are the 1 and 4 seeds.

 

The only reason the Colts win is considered an upset is because they were playing on the road. If the Bears were on the road they would still be favored over the Seahawks.

 

It's not a double standard and the Ravens are not the biggest disappointment every. Your homerism is horribly clouding your judgment here.

 

Thats not what I'm complaining about, I'm complaining about the fact that if the team has a bye and loses they should get the same treatment the Bears got last year. They were favored by just about as much as the Ravens were in this past game.

 

Well first you said "if the Bears lose" which led me to believe you were talking about this year and not last year. Second, I don't remember everybody calling the Bears " the biggest failures in the universe" after they lost to Carolina last year.

 

But if I was to guess why the Bears loss to the Panthers was a worse loss than the Ravens to the Colts it would be because of one thing: Steve Smith. Everybody knew the only offensive weapon the Panthers had was Steve Smith and that's it. Nothing else. But the Bears didn't do anything to take him out of the game like Seattle did and just let him do whatever he wanted.

 

Maybe its my paranoid crazy homer Bear fandom (quoting soccer) but I honestly do feel like Chicago gets a (at least slightly) worse rap by the media. I don't know why this is. It might because we let them down (somewhat) during the middle of the season after everyone was calling for us to sweep through the NFL and win everything. (Which we basically did anyway but not...impressive enough or something)

 

It's nowhere near as bad as everybody calling Peyton Manning the next Dan Marino as well as his inability to beat Brady and Belichick and win the big one. Or the Colts for not being able to stop the run and choking in the postseason.

[BigSlick]

Wait, the media hasn't been getting after Rex Grossman the past...forever? I'm not saying its some sort of conspiracy to make him play badly or something, but there hasn't been a single quarterback that the media hasn't pointed at or laughed at as much as him. Its almost inexplicable how much crap he takes.

 

When Joey Harrington plays worse than him he's carrying the Dolphins on his back. :roll: :lol:

 

NO ONE HAS EVER SPOKEN OF PHILIP RIVERS' SUB-30 RATING GAME AND HIS RECENT STRUGGLES.

 

Its absurd. I don't know what it stems from, but its clearly there. In fact, if I just went by what the media has said about Rex Grossman I would be in favor of pulling him for Kyle Orton. Apparently Rex Grossman throws five picks a game. Five picks a game.

Seriously, are you out of your mind?

 

You're a Bears fan, and most football media you read or watch will be about the Bears. Inevitably, discussion of the Bears will eventually turn to the fact that they've gotten severely inconsistent and unpredictable play out of their QB this season, and that play is likely to have a big effect on whether the Bears win or lose tomorrow.

 

No one has talked about Rivers because LDT is a deity. If Rex had someone like LaDainian to give the ball, I suspect he wouldn't have to deal with as many questions either.

 

And I have never, once in my life, heard anyone, anywhere, say anything about Rex Grossman throwing five picks a game. Since he hasn't done that this year at all, I'm guessing you're either making this up in your head or...making this up in your head.

 

I'm too upset to respond anymore. I can only pray for a playoff win so the media can flip the tables again and put the Bears inexplicably in the number 1 spot again.

[BigSlick]

Considering everyone said if the Bears lose they are the biggest failures in the universe, please SOMEONE tell me the Ravens are now the biggest dissapointments ever?

 

What? Who's there? Oh yes, thats Mrr. Double-Standard. I forgot about you for a second.

 

Baltimore was only favored by 3.5 over the Colts and they were at home. That translates into basically a toss up game if it was on a neutral field. The Bears are favored by 9 over Seattle not to mention that they pounded Seattle earlier this year. The Ravens and Colts were the 2 and 3 seeds while the Bears and Seahawks are the 1 and 4 seeds.

 

The only reason the Colts win is considered an upset is because they were playing on the road. If the Bears were on the road they would still be favored over the Seahawks.

 

It's not a double standard and the Ravens are not the biggest disappointment every. Your homerism is horribly clouding your judgment here.

 

Thats not what I'm complaining about, I'm complaining about the fact that if the team has a bye and loses they should get the same treatment the Bears got last year. They were favored by just about as much as the Ravens were in this past game.

 

Well first you said "if the Bears lose" which led me to believe you were talking about this year and not last year. Second, I don't remember everybody calling the Bears " the biggest failures in the universe" after they lost to Carolina last year.

 

But if I was to guess why the Bears loss to the Panthers was a worse loss than the Ravens to the Colts it would be because of one thing: Steve Smith. Everybody knew the only offensive weapon the Panthers had was Steve Smith and that's it. Nothing else. But the Bears didn't do anything to take him out of the game like Seattle did and just let him do whatever he wanted.

 

Maybe its my paranoid crazy homer Bear fandom (quoting soccer) but I honestly do feel like Chicago gets a (at least slightly) worse rap by the media. I don't know why this is. It might because we let them down (somewhat) during the middle of the season after everyone was calling for us to sweep through the NFL and win everything. (Which we basically did anyway but not...impressive enough or something)

 

It's nowhere near as bad as everybody calling Peyton Manning the next Dan Marino as well as his inability to beat Brady and Belichick and win the big one. Or the Colts for not being able to stop the run and choking in the postseason.

 

I will agree with you on this. There is nothing special about the Postseason that make the Colts play magically worse. They just play better teams. It has less to do with choking and more to do with being outplayed.

 

However, the Colts were far worse at stopping the run and no one could have predicted them to play...this much better.

 

Rex Grossman has (I hate to say this but, at time) played very well, and it shouldn't be THAT suprising if he has an even average game.

[Chris]

I can't see any way that the Bears not winning would be a bigger story than the Colts not winning. The hype following Manning and his "inability to win the bog one" has gone on since his days at UT.

[cheapseats]

 

NO ONE HAS EVER SPOKEN OF PHILIP RIVERS' SUB-30 RATING GAME AND HIS RECENT STRUGGLES.

 

Everyone has a bad game every now and then, but Rex has four games under 30 this year.

 

There were 8 qualified QB's who finished the season with QB ratings lower than Rex's. Half of them lost their jobs during the season. One (Joey Harrington) won't be a starter next year, and another (Charlie Frye) will probably have to compete for a job.

[cheapseats]

 

I will agree with you on this. There is nothing special about the Postseason that make the Colts play magically worse. They just play better teams. It has less to do with choking and more to do with being outplayed.

 

I completely agree.

[XZero771679666304]

 

Maybe its my paranoid crazy homer Bear fandom (quoting soccer) but I honestly do feel like Chicago gets a (at least slightly) worse rap by the media. I don't know why this is. It might because we let them down (somewhat) during the middle of the season after everyone was calling for us to sweep through the NFL and win everything. (Which we basically did anyway but not...impressive enough or something)

 

I am a Bears fan too, but the media skepticism is justified at this point. At the beginning of the season, the defense was filthy and Rex looked like a pro bowler. In the second half of the season, the defense has looked pretty porous, and Rex has had good games, but several bad ones. And we're not talking just bad, but godawful, as-bad-as-I-have-ever-seen-a-QB-play horrendous.

 

So we've gone from having the best defense in the game and an emerging star QB heading a dynamic offense to having a vulnerable defense with an inconsistent enigma at QB who could almost single handedly lose a game at any time. Jones and Benson are good, but not good enough to shoulder all the load should abysmal Rex make an appearance in the playoffs. It's harsh, but it's the truth.

 

On a personal level, I have gone from anticipating a SB win to hoping the Bears make it and don't get routed too badly by the AFC representative. Good Rex may well show up and the Bears would roll. But if Bad Rex does and Lovie doesn't yank him, things would not be good.

 

I think Rex can be goaded into simply managing the game, and the return of the injured defensive starters will shore up the D.

 

But you have to understand the media skepticism.

[TruffleShuffle]

 

NO ONE HAS EVER SPOKEN OF PHILIP RIVERS' SUB-30 RATING GAME AND HIS RECENT STRUGGLES.

 

Everyone has a bad game every now and then, but Rex has four games under 30 this year.

 

There were 8 qualified QB's who finished the season with QB ratings lower than Rex's. Half of them lost their jobs during the season. One (Joey Harrington) won't be a starter next year, and another (Charlie Frye) will probably have to compete for a job.

 

ding ding ding, you win the prize. Rex Grossman was God-awful for five starts; Philip Rivers was awful in one, maybe two. Rivers had the #8 passer rating in the NFL (#5 among guys who played the entire year) and made the Pro Bowl. Rex Grossman was worse than most of the quarterbacks in the NFL, and is considerably worse than every other quarterback left in the playoffs. He turned the ball over than everyone not named Jon Kitna.

 

Maybe it's not a media conspiracy to make him look bad - maybe he IS bad.