College Basketball 2006-2007

[jaydee]

Illinois cannot finish for the life of them this year.

[illiniguy]

i guess this is the year where the state of indiana owns every single one of my teams.

 

Since Illinois won the first game, I'd call it a push.

 

not by a long shot, the ej thing would overshadow 8 consecutive sweeps.

 

oh well, i should be used to my teams getting beaten without retribution by now.

 

Will it make you feel better when Sampson has IU on probation in a couple years?

 

Why do you have to be such a sore loser? It was an ugly game on all sides, and IU pulled out a win. UI won one, IU won one, hopefully they will meet again in the BTT. Just because IU won you have to pull out this "well you'll be on probation" garbage with no evidence of any violations at IU. Man up.

Yeah guys, Coach Sampson has been nothing but a stand up guy his whole career. What a farce.

[Andy]

i guess this is the year where the state of indiana owns every single one of my teams.

 

Since Illinois won the first game, I'd call it a push.

 

not by a long shot, the ej thing would overshadow 8 consecutive sweeps.

 

oh well, i should be used to my teams getting beaten without retribution by now.

 

Will it make you feel better when Sampson has IU on probation in a couple years?

 

he's done nothing wrong--but zook, somehow is the worst cheater in history because he got some great recruits to play for a talent-starved program.

 

People are just afraid of Zook, especially Jabba the hutt over at south bend.

I'm glad we somehow got an ND football insult off in a college BASKETBALL thread.

 

You people are ridiculous sometimes.

[Flames24Rulz]

Nice play Bruce. Unreal.

 

Why would you pass the ball to Pruitt at the FT line?

Why would you give him the ball in that spot ever? The only time he should touch it is when he has a man sealed on the block.

 

Exactly. I know Weber is a better coach than to draw that play up. But the whole team looked lost when Pruitt had the ball. There was no movement, no one was coming to him and trying to help him out, and it looked extremely unorganized.

 

This team just does not have enough players to win games at the end. You can't rely on big men to win games for you at the end of the games. You need jump shooters towards the end of the game, and Illinois doesn't have any reliable shooters to do that.

[dalgreen]

Weber is getting outcoached pretty much every game. 1 basket for us the final 3 minutes we probably win that game. Yet he is content to just keep punting by running the clock out and then throwing up a contested 3. That worked when Dee, Deron, and Luther were here to make those shots. But, they ain't here no more. Lets try to run some freaking sets.

 

Yeah, I hate that, too. But in fairness the play was set, but McBride just missed the three. We just aren't that talented a team, particularly when Randle is only 75% healthy.

[CP_414]

It's a testament to Sampson that a team with so much more talent than Illinois loses to them once, and nearly loses to them again.

 

Well, if Sampson is a bad coach, then Davis must have been worse than Dusty-because IU played much worse than this with a more talented squad last year.

 

That may well be. It doesn't make Sampson any better, though.

 

I guess I don't see the huge talent on this IU squad-D.J. is a great player, Wilmont is great at times, Calloway and Bassett are good but erratic, and everybody else are really role players. The talent level certainly doesn't suggest a 17-6 record to me.

 

Agreed. There is 1 future NBA player on IU right now, and he will never be a great NBA player. Sampson has them overachieving or achieving near their peak level this year. I don't see this huge talent advantage you guys might see.

[XZero771679666304]

i guess this is the year where the state of indiana owns every single one of my teams.

 

Since Illinois won the first game, I'd call it a push.

 

not by a long shot, the ej thing would overshadow 8 consecutive sweeps.

 

oh well, i should be used to my teams getting beaten without retribution by now.

 

Will it make you feel better when Sampson has IU on probation in a couple years?

 

Why do you have to be such a sore loser? It was an ugly game on all sides, and IU pulled out a win. UI won one, IU won one, hopefully they will meet again in the BTT. Just because IU won you have to pull out this "well you'll be on probation" garbage with no evidence of any violations at IU. Man up.

 

I've been saying the probation thing since before the season started, sorry. And because he was dirty at his last job, and the was being looked into. I doubt he has changed, and I really have no idea why Indiana hired him.

 

It has nothing to do with the game today.

[illiniguy]

Weber is getting outcoached pretty much every game. 1 basket for us the final 3 minutes we probably win that game. Yet he is content to just keep punting by running the clock out and then throwing up a contested 3. That worked when Dee, Deron, and Luther were here to make those shots. But, they ain't here no more. Lets try to run some freaking sets.

 

Yeah, I hate that, too. But in fairness the play was set, but McBride just missed the three. We just aren't that talented a team, particularly when Randle is only 75% healthy.

Yeah but our best player is Warren Carter. At some point during the last 4 minutes he should have gotten at least one shot. Just one.

[wekse]

i guess this is the year where the state of indiana owns every single one of my teams.

 

Since Illinois won the first game, I'd call it a push.

 

not by a long shot, the ej thing would overshadow 8 consecutive sweeps.

 

oh well, i should be used to my teams getting beaten without retribution by now.

 

Will it make you feel better when Sampson has IU on probation in a couple years?

 

he's done nothing wrong--but zook, somehow is the worst cheater in history because he got some great recruits to play for a talent-starved program.

 

People are just afraid of Zook, especially Jabba the hutt over at south bend.

I'm glad we somehow got an ND football insult off in a college BASKETBALL thread.

 

You people are ridiculous sometimes.

 

are you going to cry?

[Andy]

i guess this is the year where the state of indiana owns every single one of my teams.

 

Since Illinois won the first game, I'd call it a push.

 

not by a long shot, the ej thing would overshadow 8 consecutive sweeps.

 

oh well, i should be used to my teams getting beaten without retribution by now.

 

Will it make you feel better when Sampson has IU on probation in a couple years?

 

he's done nothing wrong--but zook, somehow is the worst cheater in history because he got some great recruits to play for a talent-starved program.

 

People are just afraid of Zook, especially Jabba the hutt over at south bend.

I'm glad we somehow got an ND football insult off in a college BASKETBALL thread.

 

You people are ridiculous sometimes.

 

are you going to cry?

Are you serious?

[illiniguy]

It's a testament to Sampson that a team with so much more talent than Illinois loses to them once, and nearly loses to them again.

 

Well, if Sampson is a bad coach, then Davis must have been worse than Dusty-because IU played much worse than this with a more talented squad last year.

 

That may well be. It doesn't make Sampson any better, though.

 

I guess I don't see the huge talent on this IU squad-D.J. is a great player, Wilmont is great at times, Calloway and Bassett are good but erratic, and everybody else are really role players. The talent level certainly doesn't suggest a 17-6 record to me.

 

Agreed. There is 1 future NBA player on IU right now, and he will never be a great NBA player. Sampson has them overachieving or achieving near their peak level this year. I don't see this huge talent advantage you guys might see.

Well I that's one more pro than we have. Pros make a hell of a difference.

[wekse]

i guess this is the year where the state of indiana owns every single one of my teams.

 

Since Illinois won the first game, I'd call it a push.

 

not by a long shot, the ej thing would overshadow 8 consecutive sweeps.

 

oh well, i should be used to my teams getting beaten without retribution by now.

 

Will it make you feel better when Sampson has IU on probation in a couple years?

 

he's done nothing wrong--but zook, somehow is the worst cheater in history because he got some great recruits to play for a talent-starved program.

 

People are just afraid of Zook, especially Jabba the hutt over at south bend.

I'm glad we somehow got an ND football insult off in a college BASKETBALL thread.

 

You people are ridiculous sometimes.

 

are you going to cry?

Are you serious?

 

yes, i am....quit crying about people hating ND.

[CP_414]

i guess this is the year where the state of indiana owns every single one of my teams.

 

Since Illinois won the first game, I'd call it a push.

 

not by a long shot, the ej thing would overshadow 8 consecutive sweeps.

 

oh well, i should be used to my teams getting beaten without retribution by now.

 

Will it make you feel better when Sampson has IU on probation in a couple years?

 

Why do you have to be such a sore loser? It was an ugly game on all sides, and IU pulled out a win. UI won one, IU won one, hopefully they will meet again in the BTT. Just because IU won you have to pull out this "well you'll be on probation" garbage with no evidence of any violations at IU. Man up.

Yeah guys, Coach Sampson has been nothing but a stand up guy his whole career. What a farce.

 

I'm not getting into this again with you, because you have already proved reading is not a skill you have, so I'll just say this and you can respond if you want.

 

I never said he didn't do anything wrong. There is no evidence that he did anything at IU. He would lose millions of dollars if he did do something at IU. So crying "cheater" when he beats you, just makes you look like a sore loser.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Drop the college football talk.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

And drop the freaking insults, already.

[XZero771679666304]

It's a testament to Sampson that a team with so much more talent than Illinois loses to them once, and nearly loses to them again.

 

Well, if Sampson is a bad coach, then Davis must have been worse than Dusty-because IU played much worse than this with a more talented squad last year.

 

That may well be. It doesn't make Sampson any better, though.

 

I guess I don't see the huge talent on this IU squad-D.J. is a great player, Wilmont is great at times, Calloway and Bassett are good but erratic, and everybody else are really role players. The talent level certainly doesn't suggest a 17-6 record to me.

 

Agreed. There is 1 future NBA player on IU right now, and he will never be a great NBA player. Sampson has them overachieving or achieving near their peak level this year. I don't see this huge talent advantage you guys might see.

 

There are three talented player on the Illinois squad. Pruitt (who is good, but not an NBA prospect), Randle (who will never realize his enormous potential), and Smith (who is still not right after his ankle injury). The rest range from average to awful.

[dalgreen]

You can't rely on big men to win games for you at the end of the games. You need jump shooters towards the end of the game, and Illinois doesn't have any reliable shooters to do that.

 

Yes, you can rely on big men to win it down the stretch. That is, if you have big men who play like big men.

[CubColtPacer]

i guess this is the year where the state of indiana owns every single one of my teams.

 

Since Illinois won the first game, I'd call it a push.

 

not by a long shot, the ej thing would overshadow 8 consecutive sweeps.

 

oh well, i should be used to my teams getting beaten without retribution by now.

 

Will it make you feel better when Sampson has IU on probation in a couple years?

 

Why do you have to be such a sore loser? It was an ugly game on all sides, and IU pulled out a win. UI won one, IU won one, hopefully they will meet again in the BTT. Just because IU won you have to pull out this "well you'll be on probation" garbage with no evidence of any violations at IU. Man up.

 

I've been saying the probation thing since before the season started, sorry. And because he was dirty at his last job, and the was being looked into. I doubt he has changed, and I really have no idea why Indiana hired him.

 

It has nothing to do with the game today.

 

True-but the NCAA decided it was minor violations, and they only decided to make an example of Sampson because he was the head of the ethics committee. It isn't anything like Huggins or Calipari or Harrick or the other dozen coaches you could name that had major violations. Those violations weren't enough to put anybody on probation, so it's not likely he's going to commit even worse violations now that he's gone through all the public humiliation and everything else.

[Andy]

The worst shooter in the country (our point guard Steve Horton, and you can look that up) just made a 4-point play. That was random.

[illiniguy]

i guess this is the year where the state of indiana owns every single one of my teams.

 

Since Illinois won the first game, I'd call it a push.

 

not by a long shot, the ej thing would overshadow 8 consecutive sweeps.

 

oh well, i should be used to my teams getting beaten without retribution by now.

 

Will it make you feel better when Sampson has IU on probation in a couple years?

 

Why do you have to be such a sore loser? It was an ugly game on all sides, and IU pulled out a win. UI won one, IU won one, hopefully they will meet again in the BTT. Just because IU won you have to pull out this "well you'll be on probation" garbage with no evidence of any violations at IU. Man up.

Yeah guys, Coach Sampson has been nothing but a stand up guy his whole career. What a farce.

 

I'm not getting into this again with you, because you have already proved reading is not a skill you have, so I'll just say this and you can respond if you want.

 

 

I never said he didn't do anything wrong. There is no evidence that he did anything at IU. He would lose millions of dollars if he did do something at IU. So crying "cheater" when he beats you, just makes you look like a sore loser.

First of all I didn't cry cheater. So when teaching about reading maybe you should practiceit before hand. We got beat because we do what we have done all year, didn't finish. Second I am glad you are happy with your coach. But when Myles Brand is running the NCAA I really doubt IU gets into any trouble. So Kelvin will be able to keep his money. Edited February 10, 2007 by illiniguy

[SeldomSeen]

Just horrible offense down the stretch. Chester Frazier can't play under any sort of pressure. DJ White's a punk.

Why?

[Flames24Rulz]

You can't rely on big men to win games for you at the end of the games. You need jump shooters towards the end of the game, and Illinois doesn't have any reliable shooters to do that.

 

Yes, you can rely on big men to win it down the stretch. That is, if you have big men who play like big men.

 

Pruitt should've never had the ball in that final sequence.

[XZero771679666304]

Just horrible offense down the stretch. Chester Frazier can't play under any sort of pressure. DJ White's a punk.

Why?

 

I don't know that he's a punk, but he sure looks like Bubba. When his playing days are over, I'll bet he takes up shrimping.

[dalgreen]

Yeah but our best player is Warren Carter. At some point during the last 4 minutes he should have gotten at least one shot. Just one.

 

And there lies the big problem. Warren Carter is our best player. Going back two years ago, no way, no way I would've thought that would ever be the case. Even though he passed the ball to an open McBride, I would've loved to see him take the ball to the hole. For crying out loud, he caught the ball in the lane against two shorter guys. I guess that goes to Weber's love of the perimeter game.

[Magnetic Curses]

It's a testament to Sampson that a team with so much more talent than Illinois loses to them once, and nearly loses to them again.

 

Well, if Sampson is a bad coach, then Davis must have been worse than Dusty-because IU played much worse than this with a more talented squad last year.

 

That may well be. It doesn't make Sampson any better, though.

 

I guess I don't see the huge talent on this IU squad-D.J. is a great player, Wilmont is great at times, Calloway and Bassett are good but erratic, and everybody else are really role players. The talent level certainly doesn't suggest a 17-6 record to me.

 

Agreed. There is 1 future NBA player on IU right now, and he will never be a great NBA player. Sampson has them overachieving or achieving near their peak level this year. I don't see this huge talent advantage you guys might see.

 

There are three talented player on the Illinois squad. Pruitt (who is good, but not an NBA prospect), Randle (who will never realize his enormous potential), and Smith (who is still not right after his ankle injury). The rest range from average to awful.

 

carter's good, brock could be something, but frazier is absolutely awful. DMAC will be playing the point next season. it should have been ej, but oh well.

 

i wouldn't be surpised if the starting backcourt is dmac and watkins next year.