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And they're going to fall to the Clippers at home.

 

This team won't make it out of the first round. Losing two games in a row to the Grizzlies and the Clippers is an absolute JOKE.

 

And to think Deng said they could win the last 17. WHOOPS.

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And they're going to fall to the Clippers at home.

 

This team won't make it out of the first round. Losing two games in a row to the Grizzlies and the Clippers is an absolute JOKE.

 

And to think Deng said they could win the last 17. WHOOPS.

 

Yep. These last two games have been an absolute joke.

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Disappointing game.

 

I don't think two bad losses will doom them in the first round, though.

 

The way we've lost the last two games is what concerns me. We didn't take the Grizzlies seriously until the 2nd half. Prior to that, we were down by double digits against them. Then tonight, it seemed like when we grabbed the lead late in the 3rd, we just decided to pack it in. It didn't do any good that Hinrich and Big Ben were the only ones who cared tonight.

 

If we don't get home court advantage for the first round, we're done.

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What the hell was this crap? :evil:

 

I'm sticking with my original prediction from the first road trip of the year: early exit in the playoffs, as per usual.

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If it was just one random loss, I'd agree. This was a bad loss, at home, against a team we need to be able to beat if we're going to live up to the "contender" tag placed on us at the beginning of the season.

 

It was also the 2nd loss in a row, against marginal/bad competition. So no, I don't think it's overreaction at this point.

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Every time I see Elton Brand now, I have a sudden urge to find Jerry Krause and inflict bodily harm upon him.

 

but, but we got PJ Brown for him!*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*via chandler

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i do. the bulls aer still just behind CLE with many games to go. shoot, they'd be the #6 seed in the West

 

I'm going off the original intention of this team, which was to at least make the conference finals. That's the standard. Can't simply shift the standard and say they're doing alright midway through the season.

 

Can you honestly say this team will make the conference finals?

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i do. the bulls aer still just behind CLE with many games to go. shoot, they'd be the #6 seed in the West

 

I'm going off the original intention of this team, which was to at least make the conference finals. That's the standard. Can't simply shift the standard and say they're doing alright midway through the season.

 

Can you honestly say this team will make the conference finals?

 

no, but could you honestly say that the "weak" East would win 2 of the last 3 championships? You never know in a 7 game series.

 

The Bulls won, what, 5 or 6 in a row before this little 2 game skid? Why the panic? I realize they have squandered opportunities to pass Cleveland, but you can't expect the team to win every single game

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i do. the bulls aer still just behind CLE with many games to go. shoot, they'd be the #6 seed in the West

 

I'm going off the original intention of this team, which was to at least make the conference finals. That's the standard. Can't simply shift the standard and say they're doing alright midway through the season.

 

Can you honestly say this team will make the conference finals?

 

no, but could you honestly say that the "weak" East would win 2 of the last 3 championships? You never know in a 7 game series.

 

The Bulls won, what, 5 or 6 in a row before this little 2 game skid? Why the panic? I realize they have squandered opportunities to pass Cleveland, but you can't expect the team to win every single game

 

The schedule starts to get tougher now. These were the games we needed to dominate. Now it's no longer home/home against BOS, then PHI, then MEM.

 

More like IND,then DET, then CLE. How will they fare against the better teams when a club like Memphis makes us look bad and a non-playoff team like LAC just destroys us? That's why the panic----it's the manner of the losses, and against whom.

 

But ultimately I'm not actually panicing. I'm just pointing out that this does not look like the contender I expected this season. I'm really not going to be all that upset if the Bulls exit, say, 2nd round. I haven't thought they were better than that for months now, though obviously I root for them.

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There is also a big difference between "contenders" and "favorites". I think they are contenders, but clearly Detroit is (and should be) the favorites in th East.
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Every time I see Elton Brand now, I have a sudden urge to find Jerry Krause and inflict bodily harm upon him.

 

See, I can get behind this. That was a horrible trade.

 

But this team isn't destined for a first round exit because it didn't get up for the Grizzlies or Clippers. I think getting homecourt advantage in the first round will be far more important to their playoff performance than how they do against mediocre teams like the Clippers in March.

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Every time I see Elton Brand now, I have a sudden urge to find Jerry Krause and inflict bodily harm upon him.

 

See, I can get behind this. That was a horrible trade.

 

But this team isn't destined for a first round exit because it didn't get up for the Grizzlies or Clippers. I think getting homecourt advantage in the first round will be far more important to their playoff performance than how they do against mediocre teams like the Clippers in March.

 

Well put.

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Every time I see Elton Brand now, I have a sudden urge to find Jerry Krause and inflict bodily harm upon him.

 

See, I can get behind this. That was a horrible trade.

 

But this team isn't destined for a first round exit because it didn't get up for the Grizzlies or Clippers. I think getting homecourt advantage in the first round will be far more important to their playoff performance than how they do against mediocre teams like the Clippers in March.

 

Well put.

 

Alright, I'll go there.

 

I'm confused by the new playoff seeding though. What exactly must the Bulls do to get home court in that first round series? Pass Cleveland? I've heard you can be a 4 seed and lose homecourt to a 5th seed (which seems to defeat the purpose of seeding) or similar stuff.

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Every time I see Elton Brand now, I have a sudden urge to find Jerry Krause and inflict bodily harm upon him.

 

See, I can get behind this. That was a horrible trade.

 

But this team isn't destined for a first round exit because it didn't get up for the Grizzlies or Clippers. I think getting homecourt advantage in the first round will be far more important to their playoff performance than how they do against mediocre teams like the Clippers in March.

 

Well put.

 

Alright, I'll go there.

 

I'm confused by the new playoff seeding though. What exactly must the Bulls do to get home court in that first round series? Pass Cleveland? I've heard you can be a 4 seed and lose homecourt to a 5th seed (which seems to defeat the purpose of seeding) or similar stuff.

The top three seeds will be determined only by overall record - not by division. After that, any division champion not already seeded will be seeded. For instance, right now, Detroit and Cleveland would be 1 and 2, and Toronto would be seeded 4th because they're leading their division.

 

And, yes, the record thing is true, too. The Bulls have a better record than Toronto so they would have homecourt in the 5/4 series even though the Bulls would be 5.

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The top three seeds will be determined only by overall record - not by division. After that, any division champion not already seeded will be seeded. For instance, right now, Detroit and Cleveland would be 1 and 2, and Toronto would be seeded 4th because they're leading their division.

It's the top two seeds, not the top three, that are determined by overall record. Too bad, too. The Bulls are the 5 seed at present despite having a better winning percentage than both the Wizards and the Raptors.

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The top three seeds will be determined only by overall record - not by division. After that, any division champion not already seeded will be seeded. For instance, right now, Detroit and Cleveland would be 1 and 2, and Toronto would be seeded 4th because they're leading their division.

It's the top two seeds, not the top three, that are determined by overall record. Too bad, too. The Bulls are the 5 seed at present despite having a better winning percentage than both the Wizards and the Raptors.

 

That is true this year. I saw what me meant there that usually it would be the top 3 teams with the best records and then the bad division winner in 4th. It just so happens that 2 of the divisions are poor this year, and so they have to take both the 3rd and 4th spot away from Chicago who has a better record than either of them.

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The top three seeds will be determined only by overall record - not by division. After that, any division champion not already seeded will be seeded. For instance, right now, Detroit and Cleveland would be 1 and 2, and Toronto would be seeded 4th because they're leading their division.

It's the top two seeds, not the top three, that are determined by overall record. Too bad, too. The Bulls are the 5 seed at present despite having a better winning percentage than both the Wizards and the Raptors.

 

That is true this year. I saw what me meant there that usually it would be the top 3 teams with the best records and then the bad division winner in 4th. It just so happens that 2 of the divisions are poor this year, and so they have to take both the 3rd and 4th spot away from Chicago who has a better record than either of them.

 

It's too flaky. I'd rather it be top 3 by record, then the "bad" division winners. But oh well, at least it seems a little better than before even though it doesn't benefit us.

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