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BTW, I am calling it, this Michigan actually winning all of the games they should BS is going to eventually stop...Michigan will lose to Penn State. I hate to say it because I love the maize and blue, but they just don't ever get to the OSU game unscathed anymore and if any team will do it, its gonna be PSU on the road.

 

PSU didn't look very good Saturday though and were handed a win at Minnesota. It's hard to get a good read on them at this point.

 

I agree with the sentiment though. I hear all this talk about how this team is different they'll definitely be undefeated heading to the OSU game and in watching them they are impressive. But then I remember that Lloyd is still on top.

They're at PSU this week and then host Iowa. If they get past those two, they'll cruise. We always play well against Michigan and play pretty well in Ann Arbor and late October is money time for Ferentz teams.

 

The next 2 weeks will definetly tell the story. Michigan throttled MSU this week (13 points came when it was 31-0) and MSU always plays them tough, i was very surpised they rolled so well. MSU is such an engima.

 

Its hard to gauge Penn St. I dont think they are as bad as the ND score indicates. Going to Happy Valley and playing primetime is never easy. They have a good defense and can run the ball to keep the game close. If Michigan can jump on them early, i dont think PSU and Morelli can mount a passing attack comeback. I see the chances of this being closer more than a blowout.

 

Iowa will be their final challenge before OSU. Its a good thing for UM its at AA than at Iowa this year. Iowa always plays UM tough and wouldnt be shocked if UM lost. UM's offense is really rolling, very balanced. The weakness on this team is the secondary ex-Leon Hall. Tate can and needs to expose this, he has a better chance than Morelli.

 

Also, USC doesnt impress me this year. They are winning a lot of games by this skin of their teeth. They will lose 1 or 2 games this year.

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Iowa will be their final challenge before OSU. Its a good thing for UM its at AA than at Iowa this year. Iowa always plays UM tough and wouldnt be shocked if UM lost. UM's offense is really rolling, very balanced. The weakness on this team is the secondary ex-Leon Hall. Tate can and needs to expose this, he has a better chance than Morelli.

 

What's the deal with Manningham? I'm hearing that he may be out 2-3 weeks. They still have Breaston, Arrington (damnit) and probably 10 other stud recievers like always, but that would be a big loss and improve Iowa's chances.

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Iowa will be their final challenge before OSU. Its a good thing for UM its at AA than at Iowa this year. Iowa always plays UM tough and wouldnt be shocked if UM lost. UM's offense is really rolling, very balanced. The weakness on this team is the secondary ex-Leon Hall. Tate can and needs to expose this, he has a better chance than Morelli.

 

What's the deal with Manningham? I'm hearing that he may be out 2-3 weeks. They still have Breaston, Arrington (damnit) and probably 10 other stud recievers like always, but that would be a big loss and improve Iowa's chances.

 

What? Damnit. Nothing was reported during the game. The other guys are young and inexeperienced, Tabb is ok but he wont do much. This hurts their deep threat big time.

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Iowa will be their final challenge before OSU. Its a good thing for UM its at AA than at Iowa this year. Iowa always plays UM tough and wouldnt be shocked if UM lost. UM's offense is really rolling, very balanced. The weakness on this team is the secondary ex-Leon Hall. Tate can and needs to expose this, he has a better chance than Morelli.

 

What's the deal with Manningham? I'm hearing that he may be out 2-3 weeks. They still have Breaston, Arrington (damnit) and probably 10 other stud recievers like always, but that would be a big loss and improve Iowa's chances.

 

What? Damnit. Nothing was reported during the game. The other guys are young and inexeperienced, Tabb is ok but he wont do much. This hurts their deep threat big time.

 

A Michigan fan that I work with told me about it this morning. Now I had time to check out the Michigan board on rivals.com and it looks like they're freaking out about it.

I don't know that there's been any announcement yet, but apparently some station out there confirmed that he's out for the PSU game. Most posters are saying he's out for 2-4 weeks with some sort of knee injury. They seem to all think he'll be back for the OSU game.

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

That's going to be a good game. I would be highly surprised if Auburn plays as bad as they did last week against Arkansas and think they will come out fired up at home. Ultimately I think Florida is going to win, but it's going to be a good game.

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

If Florida loses (please, I'm begging), and an SEC team moves to #2 it better as heck be Tennessee. We are far more proven than any other SEC team. Which seems strange to say after last season, feels good to say it though. :)

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

That's going to be a good game. I would be highly surprised if Auburn plays as bad as they did last week against Arkansas and think they will come out fired up at home. Ultimately I think Florida is going to win, but it's going to be a good game.

 

If Auburn hopes to win, which I think they very well can, Kenny Irons is going to have to decide to actually start playing. Outside of the Washington State game, he's been awful. That's their number 1 problem this year. He shows up, Auburn wins, otherwise Florida wins.

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

Vandy for top 25!

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It'd be real nice if Michigan and Florida could lose this weekend so ND can jump to No. 7 in the polls.
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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

If Florida loses (please, I'm begging), and an SEC team moves to #2 it better as heck be Tennessee. We are far more proven than any other SEC team. Which seems strange to say after last season, feels good to say it though. :)

 

If Florida were to lose to Auburn, I don't see how Tennessee would be far more proven than Auburn. I guess Tennessee's loss is a "better" loss than Auburn's, but on the other hand Auburn would have beaten the team UT lost to. I'm not saying Auburn would deserve to be ranked ahead of UT, but I don't think anyone could be too upset with either being in front of the other.

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Matchups between Top 25 teams

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

If Florida loses (please, I'm begging), and an SEC team moves to #2 it better as heck be Tennessee. We are far more proven than any other SEC team. Which seems strange to say after last season, feels good to say it though. :)

 

If Florida were to lose to Auburn, I don't see how Tennessee would be far more proven than Auburn. I guess Tennessee's loss is a "better" loss than Auburn's, but on the other hand Auburn would have beaten the team UT lost to. I'm not saying Auburn would deserve to be ranked ahead of UT, but I don't think anyone could be too upset with either being in front of the other.

 

Auburn has wins over South Carolina (barely), Miss St, Buffalo, and Washington St. If they beat Florida, that's their only good win.

Tennessee has dominated Cal, put up 50 on a good defense at Georgia (granted their offense isn't real good), and beat Memphis, Marshall, and Air Force (barely).

The Vols' resume is much better than Auburn's.

Also, let me say I'm not arguing UT should be #2, just hypothetically if you put an SEC team there, it should be Tennessee.

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Matchups between Top 25 teams

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

If Florida loses (please, I'm begging), and an SEC team moves to #2 it better as heck be Tennessee. We are far more proven than any other SEC team. Which seems strange to say after last season, feels good to say it though. :)

 

If Florida were to lose to Auburn, I don't see how Tennessee would be far more proven than Auburn. I guess Tennessee's loss is a "better" loss than Auburn's, but on the other hand Auburn would have beaten the team UT lost to. I'm not saying Auburn would deserve to be ranked ahead of UT, but I don't think anyone could be too upset with either being in front of the other.

 

This is why it's foolish to even have teams outside of the SEC ranked so high. The SEC teams play such a tough out of conference schedule and then beat up on each other I just don't see any other way to say it but to just hand them the title.

 

WV plays at Miss St and wins 42-14 and is called for 13 penalties by the SEC refs and they drop in the polls...yeah, good ole boys just sticking together.

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It'd be real nice if Michigan and Florida could lose this weekend so ND can jump to No. 7 in the polls.

 

You need Michigan to keep rolling so the ass kicking ND took doesnt look anymore than another dead bug on Michigans windshield. Ok, seriously anybody that would vote ND ahead of UM would need their head checked. Just because someone loses doesnt mean teams should leapfrog them because their loss was 4 weeks ago. Thats so 1990's.

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

If Florida loses (please, I'm begging), and an SEC team moves to #2 it better as heck be Tennessee. We are far more proven than any other SEC team. Which seems strange to say after last season, feels good to say it though. :)

 

If Florida were to lose to Auburn, I don't see how Tennessee would be far more proven than Auburn. I guess Tennessee's loss is a "better" loss than Auburn's, but on the other hand Auburn would have beaten the team UT lost to. I'm not saying Auburn would deserve to be ranked ahead of UT, but I don't think anyone could be too upset with either being in front of the other.

 

This is why it's foolish to even have teams outside of the SEC ranked so high. The SEC teams play such a tough out of conference schedule and then beat up on each other I just don't see any other way to say it but to just hand them the title.

 

WV plays at Miss St and wins 42-14 and is called for 13 penalties by the SEC refs and they drop in the polls...yeah, good ole boys just sticking together.

 

Last week West Virginia had 1395 points in the AP poll. Florida was behind them with 1393, Michigan behind them with 1342. That's a pretty slim margin. This week, WVU has 1416, Michigan 1429, and Florida 1516. Is it worth crying conspiracy for dropping a spot when the team that jumped you is only ahead 13 points? Especially after they beat a better team(Michigan State is the better of the MSUs, and a UM rival no less) more convincingly the previous week, and have a better schedule thus far?

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This is why it's foolish to even have teams outside of the SEC ranked so high. The SEC teams play such a tough out of conference schedule and then beat up on each other I just don't see any other way to say it but to just hand them the title.

 

WV plays at Miss St and wins 42-14 and is called for 13 penalties by the SEC refs and they drop in the polls...yeah, good ole boys just sticking together.

 

Last week West Virginia had 1395 points in the AP poll. Florida was behind them with 1393, Michigan behind them with 1342. That's a pretty slim margin. This week, WVU has 1416, Michigan 1429, and Florida 1516. Is it worth crying conspiracy for dropping a spot when the team that jumped you is only ahead 13 points? Especially after they beat a better team(Michigan State is the better of the MSUs, and a UM rival no less) more convincingly the previous week, and have a better schedule thus far? UM didn't even jump WVU in the coaches poll.

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

If Florida loses (please, I'm begging), and an SEC team moves to #2 it better as heck be Tennessee. We are far more proven than any other SEC team. Which seems strange to say after last season, feels good to say it though. :)

 

If Florida were to lose to Auburn, I don't see how Tennessee would be far more proven than Auburn. I guess Tennessee's loss is a "better" loss than Auburn's, but on the other hand Auburn would have beaten the team UT lost to. I'm not saying Auburn would deserve to be ranked ahead of UT, but I don't think anyone could be too upset with either being in front of the other.

 

Auburn has wins over South Carolina (barely), Miss St, Buffalo, and Washington St. If they beat Florida, that's their only good win.

Tennessee has dominated Cal, put up 50 on a good defense at Georgia (granted their offense isn't real good), and beat Memphis, Marshall, and Air Force (barely).

The Vols' resume is much better than Auburn's.

Also, let me say I'm not arguing UT should be #2, just hypothetically if you put an SEC team there, it should be Tennessee.

 

Auburn sure didnt look very special against Arkansas. I was watching the game saying.....ok what makes this team look like a #2 team? After it was over i was like oh....maybe it was supposed to be #12. I saw nothing that made them look scary, #2 teams should look scary.

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It'd be real nice if Michigan and Florida could lose this weekend so ND can jump to No. 7 in the polls.

 

You need Michigan to keep rolling so the ass kicking ND took doesnt look anymore than another dead bug on Michigans windshield. Ok, seriously anybody that would vote ND ahead of UM would need their head checked. Just because someone loses doesnt mean teams should leapfrog them because their loss was 4 weeks ago. Thats so 1990's.

Hey, I wasn't saying I agreed with it, just that it will happen. We all know how stupid pollsters are, and barring some exceptionally strange circumstance (like, say, the phantom timeout last year), if PSU were to beat UM, ND would jump them.

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Auburn has wins over South Carolina (barely), Miss St, Buffalo, and Washington St. If they beat Florida, that's their only good win.

Tennessee has dominated Cal, put up 50 on a good defense at Georgia (granted their offense isn't real good), and beat Memphis, Marshall, and Air Force (barely).

The Vols' resume is much better than Auburn's.

Also, let me say I'm not arguing UT should be #2, just hypothetically if you put an SEC team there, it should be Tennessee.

 

Why didn't you list the win against LSU? Florida is more highly rated than Cal, and LSU and Georgia are similarly ranked. The rest are cakewalks, and even then Auburn winning at USC is probably better than winning at home v. Air Force.

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

If Florida loses (please, I'm begging), and an SEC team moves to #2 it better as heck be Tennessee. We are far more proven than any other SEC team. Which seems strange to say after last season, feels good to say it though. :)

 

If Florida were to lose to Auburn, I don't see how Tennessee would be far more proven than Auburn. I guess Tennessee's loss is a "better" loss than Auburn's, but on the other hand Auburn would have beaten the team UT lost to. I'm not saying Auburn would deserve to be ranked ahead of UT, but I don't think anyone could be too upset with either being in front of the other.

 

This is why it's foolish to even have teams outside of the SEC ranked so high. The SEC teams play such a tough out of conference schedule and then beat up on each other I just don't see any other way to say it but to just hand them the title.

 

WV plays at Miss St and wins 42-14 and is called for 13 penalties by the SEC refs and they drop in the polls...yeah, good ole boys just sticking together.

 

Last week West Virginia had 1395 points in the AP poll. Florida was behind them with 1393, Michigan behind them with 1342. That's a pretty slim margin. This week, WVU has 1416, Michigan 1429, and Florida 1516. Is it worth crying conspiracy for dropping a spot when the team that jumped you is only ahead 13 points? Especially after they beat a better team(Michigan State is the better of the MSUs, and a UM rival no less) more convincingly the previous week, and have a better schedule thus far?

 

Then they should be consistant then. If Auburn played Dolly Madision they would have stayed at the spot they were. Another thing......WV received 2 first place votes , the only votes that Ohio State didn't get, and yet is in 5th while Florida is 2, that tells me that too many have WV a few spots lower than 5 and they have done nothing to show they don't belong where they were. LSU beats MSU 48-17 at home and moved up. Also, since the leapfrog, WV has to have Florida and Michigan to lose to be able to play in the BCS Championship if they both go undefeated because of the illusion that the SEC is so tough. I understand your point but IMO it always happens to a team that isn't in the good ole boy club like Michigan and Florida.

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

If Florida loses (please, I'm begging), and an SEC team moves to #2 it better as heck be Tennessee. We are far more proven than any other SEC team. Which seems strange to say after last season, feels good to say it though. :)

 

If Florida were to lose to Auburn, I don't see how Tennessee would be far more proven than Auburn. I guess Tennessee's loss is a "better" loss than Auburn's, but on the other hand Auburn would have beaten the team UT lost to. I'm not saying Auburn would deserve to be ranked ahead of UT, but I don't think anyone could be too upset with either being in front of the other.

 

This is why it's foolish to even have teams outside of the SEC ranked so high. The SEC teams play such a tough out of conference schedule and then beat up on each other I just don't see any other way to say it but to just hand them the title.

 

WV plays at Miss St and wins 42-14 and is called for 13 penalties by the SEC refs and they drop in the polls...yeah, good ole boys just sticking together.

 

I am a proponent that if you play a tough conference schedule, it's ok to play nobody non-conference. If you play nobody in conference, you should play some teams in conference.

Tennessee plays some decent to bad non-conference each year and typically one good to very good team. For example, this year we play Cal and then Air Force (one of the better mid majors), Memphis (usually decent), and Marshall (bad). We've also played Miami and ND, and upcoming we have Oregon, UCLA, Oklahoma, etc.

Other SEC teams that have or will play tough non conference foes, Florida (Fl St), LSU (AZ St, Va Tech), Bama (Fl St, ND, OK, Nebraska).

There's a reason the SEC is respected, we've earned it over the years. I don't have too much of a problem with the Big East, they've got a great future. But when the best teams in your conference leave, you've got to go out and earn respect. You won't by beating up on teams that have not been historically good, UConn, Rutgers, Cincinnati.

I respect Louisville for going out and taking on Miami, but West Virginia hasn't gone out and gotten anybody. When they had the chance, they got the weakest SEC team, Miss St.

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

Vandy for top 25!

 

Probably the top 25 grades in the SEC.

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

If Florida loses (please, I'm begging), and an SEC team moves to #2 it better as heck be Tennessee. We are far more proven than any other SEC team. Which seems strange to say after last season, feels good to say it though. :)

 

If Florida were to lose to Auburn, I don't see how Tennessee would be far more proven than Auburn. I guess Tennessee's loss is a "better" loss than Auburn's, but on the other hand Auburn would have beaten the team UT lost to. I'm not saying Auburn would deserve to be ranked ahead of UT, but I don't think anyone could be too upset with either being in front of the other.

 

Auburn has wins over South Carolina (barely), Miss St, Buffalo, and Washington St. If they beat Florida, that's their only good win.

Tennessee has dominated Cal, put up 50 on a good defense at Georgia (granted their offense isn't real good), and beat Memphis, Marshall, and Air Force (barely).

The Vols' resume is much better than Auburn's.

Also, let me say I'm not arguing UT should be #2, just hypothetically if you put an SEC team there, it should be Tennessee.

 

Auburn sure didnt look very special against Arkansas. I was watching the game saying.....ok what makes this team look like a #2 team? After it was over i was like oh....maybe it was supposed to be #12. I saw nothing that made them look scary, #2 teams should look scary.

 

I agree, they haven't been impressive. Tennessee has, and I don't think I'm being biased.

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Auburn has wins over South Carolina (barely), Miss St, Buffalo, and Washington St. If they beat Florida, that's their only good win.

Tennessee has dominated Cal, put up 50 on a good defense at Georgia (granted their offense isn't real good), and beat Memphis, Marshall, and Air Force (barely).

The Vols' resume is much better than Auburn's.

Also, let me say I'm not arguing UT should be #2, just hypothetically if you put an SEC team there, it should be Tennessee.

 

Why didn't you list the win against LSU? Florida is more highly rated than Cal, and LSU and Georgia are similarly ranked. The rest are cakewalks, and even then Auburn winning at USC is probably better than winning at home v. Air Force.

 

Honestly, I forgot about LSU. Also, Memphis is probably nearly as good as Air Force, if not better. We have horrible problems with mobile quarterbacks and have for years, that's the main reason we struggled against Carney and the Falcons, and Matt Mauck, and DJ Shockley, etc.

Memphis would give USC a run, if not beat them. That leaves Buffalo and Wash St for Auburn and Marshall and Cal for UT.

Still an advantage for the Vols.

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(11) Auburn at (2) Florida (7:45 pm, ESPN)

 

That game is at Auburn.

 

I look forward to seeing Auburn winning and going right back to #2. The SEC is just that darn good.

 

If Florida loses (please, I'm begging), and an SEC team moves to #2 it better as heck be Tennessee. We are far more proven than any other SEC team. Which seems strange to say after last season, feels good to say it though. :)

 

If Florida were to lose to Auburn, I don't see how Tennessee would be far more proven than Auburn. I guess Tennessee's loss is a "better" loss than Auburn's, but on the other hand Auburn would have beaten the team UT lost to. I'm not saying Auburn would deserve to be ranked ahead of UT, but I don't think anyone could be too upset with either being in front of the other.

 

This is why it's foolish to even have teams outside of the SEC ranked so high. The SEC teams play such a tough out of conference schedule and then beat up on each other I just don't see any other way to say it but to just hand them the title.

 

WV plays at Miss St and wins 42-14 and is called for 13 penalties by the SEC refs and they drop in the polls...yeah, good ole boys just sticking together.

 

I am a proponent that if you play a tough conference schedule, it's ok to play nobody non-conference. If you play nobody in conference, you should play some teams in conference.

Tennessee plays some decent to bad non-conference each year and typically one good to very good team. For example, this year we play Cal and then Air Force (one of the better mid majors), Memphis (usually decent), and Marshall (bad). We've also played Miami and ND, and upcoming we have Oregon, UCLA, Oklahoma, etc.

Other SEC teams that have or will play tough non conference foes, Florida (Fl St), LSU (AZ St, Va Tech), Bama (Fl St, ND, OK, Nebraska).

There's a reason the SEC is respected, we've earned it over the years. I don't have too much of a problem with the Big East, they've got a great future. But when the best teams in your conference leave, you've got to go out and earn respect. You won't by beating up on teams that have not been historically good, UConn, Rutgers, Cincinnati.

I respect Louisville for going out and taking on Miami, but West Virginia hasn't gone out and gotten anybody. When they had the chance, they got the weakest SEC team, Miss St.

 

I don't deny that UT plays the toughest out of conference in the SEC but LSU plays or played La-Lafayette, Tulane, Fresno St, and Arizona. WV has played a tougher schedule than most think but it is weak and they have everyone back from last years team that beat the SEC Champ in the Sugar Bowl, since you added history to the debate. Let me add that BE is tougher than any conference top to bottom. Last place Syracuse goes to OT with Iowa and beats Illinois in Illinios, UConn beats Indiana, and Louisville, who I think is the best team in the country, played at Kansas St and beat them there.

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