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Hendry has pulled off some marvelous trades in the past, especially early in his GM career before MacPhail started butting in, so I wouldn't put an ARod trade out of the realm of possibility.

 

ARod is awesome. He just needs a change of scenery.

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I agree about Hendry and trading. I feel much more comfortable with him trying to pull in big players that way since he's pulled it off pretty spectacuarly in the past. And I don't think there's any doubt ARod still has years of great baseball left in him, especially if he's moved back to SS.
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Hendry has pulled off some marvelous trades in the past, especially early in his GM career before MacPhail started butting in, so I wouldn't put an ARod trade out of the realm of possibility.

 

ARod is awesome. He just needs a change of scenery.

 

When did MacPhail butt in?

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well ESPN Radio this morning mentioned the Cubs second as a team for A-Rod right after the Angels. In all reality the Angels would have the inside track if they offered Dallas McPherson and Ervin Santana. If i were the Angels I would look very hard at that deal and then suggest Casey Kotchman instead of Dallas and then make the deal (The Yanks wouldn't go for it).

 

Why would the Yankees want Kotchman? They're trading their third baseman, they still have Giambi.

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Ken Rosenthal / Fox Sports[/url]"] Third baseman Alex Rodriguez's best chance of staying with the Yankees was if Lou Piniella replaced Joe Torre as manager. Now that Torre will be back, the Yankees seem almost certain to initiate efforts to trade A-Rod. ...

 

The Angels are the most obvious trade possibility; they offered right-hander Ervin Santana and infielder Erick Aybar for Orioles shortstop Miguel Tejada last July, and their owner, Arte Moreno, has pledged to make a major move.

 

The Dodgers and White Sox also could be leading suitors for A-Rod. The Astros, Cubs and Padres, all seeking big bats, would have to be intrigued. Heck, even the Marlins might consider bringing A-Rod home to Miami in a deal for young pitching — or maybe even left-hander Dontrelle Willis — if the Yankees were willing to pay enough of Rodriguez's salary.

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well ESPN Radio this morning mentioned the Cubs second as a team for A-Rod right after the Angels. In all reality the Angels would have the inside track if they offered Dallas McPherson and Ervin Santana. If i were the Angels I would look very hard at that deal and then suggest Casey Kotchman instead of Dallas and then make the deal (The Yanks wouldn't go for it).

 

Ken Rosenthal reiterating the Angels may be the top suitor for A-Rod's services. The Cubs get a passing mention.

 

Come on Hendry. Get off your keister and make this happen ASAP.

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If the Angels really want him, I don't think the Cubs have the players to match the package the Angels could offer.

 

Do you think the Yankees would send him another AL team?

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If the Angels really want him, I don't think the Cubs have the players to match the package the Angels could offer.

 

Do you think the Yankees would send him another AL team?

 

Yes. I think if everything is equal, they'd prefer to send him to the NL, but they won't do that for a significantly lesser package.

 

The Angels are deep enough to make a much stronger bid than the Cubs.

 

It will be interesting to see how the Cubs proceed here. I don't think we'll get him, but I surely hope that we will try.

 

The wildcard in this is Rodriguez's no-trade clause. He has a say in where he wants to go. Does he want to remain at third? Would he prefer a chance to return to SS? Does he want to switch leagues? All of those issues will matter to him.

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If the Angels really want him, I don't think the Cubs have the players to match the package the Angels could offer.

 

Do you think the Yankees would send him another AL team?

 

The Rangers did.

 

I think the inter-division, inter-league trade prohibition is a baseball myth. I think teams look for the best possible deal they can get.

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Didn't I read that A-Rod and Lou Piniella have a good relationship? Wouldn't that be a kicker, if he decides to waive his no trade to wherever Lou goes.

 

I'm not sure if Lou + Arod would get me to choose Lou :?

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If the Angels really want him, I don't think the Cubs have the players to match the package the Angels could offer.

 

Do you think the Yankees would send him another AL team?

 

The Rangers did.

 

I think the inter-division, inter-league trade prohibition is a baseball myth. I think teams look for the best possible deal they can get.

 

I could see some intra-division prohibitions...though even those are overblown. I doubt they would send Arod to the Red Sox, but any other team is fair game.

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If the Angels really want him, I don't think the Cubs have the players to match the package the Angels could offer.

 

Do you think the Yankees would send him another AL team?

 

The Rangers did.

 

I think the inter-division, inter-league trade prohibition is a baseball myth. I think teams look for the best possible deal they can get.

 

I am only thinking that the ever PR conscious Yankees would probably take slightly less in return from a NL team. If a team like the White Sox or Angels, who are contenders for the pennant in 2007 make an offer, I could see their cost being more. Maybe not signifigantly less, but somewhat less...

 

The Rangers, I think, were just happy to get rid of part of the giant contract. I think that if ARod were making $16m/yr in the winter of 2003, they would have either held out for more than Soriano or not dealt him at all.

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The wildcard in this is Rodriguez's no-trade clause. He has a say in where he wants to go. Does he want to remain at third? Would he prefer a chance to return to SS? Does he want to switch leagues? All of those issues will matter to him.

 

There is a lot of doubt that he'd want to go to the west coast, and be that much further from Miami. Chicago is about the same distance as NY.

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The wildcard in this is Rodriguez's no-trade clause. He has a say in where he wants to go. Does he want to remain at third? Would he prefer a chance to return to SS? Does he want to switch leagues? All of those issues will matter to him.

 

There is a lot of doubt that he'd want to go to the west coast, and be that much further from Miami. Chicago is about the same distance as NY.

 

Maybe he would relish the opportunity to play daytime baseball in Chicago, which he might percieve as less pressure, but a much higher reward for his legacy if he should lead the Cubs to a World Series...

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The wildcard in this is Rodriguez's no-trade clause. He has a say in where he wants to go. Does he want to remain at third? Would he prefer a chance to return to SS? Does he want to switch leagues? All of those issues will matter to him.

 

There is a lot of doubt that he'd want to go to the west coast, and be that much further from Miami. Chicago is about the same distance as NY.

 

Maybe he would relish the opportunity to play daytime baseball in Chicago, which he might percieve as less pressure, but a much higher reward for his legacy if he should lead the Cubs to a World Series...

 

To argue the other side of it, maybe he would want out of the pressure of a major market? Chicago is still pretty high profile.

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The Rangers, I think, were just happy to get rid of part of the giant contract. I think that if ARod were making $16m/yr in the winter of 2003, they would have either held out for more than Soriano or not dealt him at all.

 

You're right. The Rangers just wanted to free up payroll to spend on other areas of the team and didn't want to have that much money tied up in one player. The Yankees obviously don't have that problem and I think they will ultimately take the best deal offered to them (as long as it isn't the Red Sox).

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To argue the other side of it, maybe he would want out of the pressure of a major market? Chicago is still pretty high profile.

 

Chicago may be high-profile, but it's only been the past two years where it's become a "win or else" environment. I think the national perception still is that losing is acceptable at Wrigley because the beer is flowing and the women are scantily clad. That may work to our benefit since it may be perceived as low pressure. Heck, anything outside of the Yankees/Red Sox is low pressure.

 

I seem to remember him having nice things to say about the Cubs organization when he played here with Texas, but that was probably standard stuff that anyone would say.

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The wildcard in this is Rodriguez's no-trade clause. He has a say in where he wants to go. Does he want to remain at third? Would he prefer a chance to return to SS? Does he want to switch leagues? All of those issues will matter to him.

 

There is a lot of doubt that he'd want to go to the west coast, and be that much further from Miami. Chicago is about the same distance as NY.

 

Maybe he would relish the opportunity to play daytime baseball in Chicago, which he might percieve as less pressure, but a much higher reward for his legacy if he should lead the Cubs to a World Series...

 

To argue the other side of it, maybe he would want out of the pressure of a major market? Chicago is still pretty high profile.

 

But if he's as image conscious as people say, he'll still want a "major" market in which he can win a title, just one with a softer reputation. Plus, being in a major market would help his off the field endeavors.

 

Anaheim is in. I suppose Houston could make a play, but that's one of the few teams we could outbid. If the White Sox want him, and offer Crede and one of their pitchers, that would be tough to beat.

 

After that, who? Florida isn't going to trade for him, no matter what anyone thinks. NY Mets wont. The Dodgers, I suppose, could, but they have a lot of middle IF's as it is. Count everyone in the AL East out. Anaheim is the only AL West team that could make a play. The White Sox are the only AL Central team in. The Cubs and Houston are it as far as the NL Central. I don't see any of the NL West teams getting involved. Philly in the NL East could get involved, but would they want to, and do they match up?

 

Basically, I see Anaheim, both Chicago teams, Houston and maybe Philly. And the Cubs could outbid anyone on that list in the NL.

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The wildcard in this is Rodriguez's no-trade clause. He has a say in where he wants to go. Does he want to remain at third? Would he prefer a chance to return to SS? Does he want to switch leagues? All of those issues will matter to him.

 

There is a lot of doubt that he'd want to go to the west coast, and be that much further from Miami. Chicago is about the same distance as NY.

 

Maybe he would relish the opportunity to play daytime baseball in Chicago, which he might percieve as less pressure, but a much higher reward for his legacy if he should lead the Cubs to a World Series...

 

To argue the other side of it, maybe he would want out of the pressure of a major market? Chicago is still pretty high profile.

 

Chicago is high profile and there would be pressure on ARod but there is so much more pressure when you are playing for the Yankees. The pressure that Steinbrenner puts on his team and players is unparalleled. But I see your point. I want to say that Cubs fans wouldn't boo ARod and wouldn't get mad at him if he went into a slump but then I look at ARam this year and I realize that anything is possible.

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The Yanks will keep ARod, and jack their payroll to 250 million through acquisition of pitching. The "Boss" is REALLY pissed now, and will dip into the savings account even more. Getting ARod is a pipe dream. If Jimbo acquires ARod, I would take back everything bad I've ever said about the guy...well, almost.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2620449

 

Looks like ARod will not be on the block.

As I suspected all along. Cashman, nor many other GMs with large enough payrolls, just aren't stupid enough to trade away a guy who is consistently that productive.

 

There is still a small chance that he could be traded, but it will have to be a heck of a package of talent to get him. There won't be any discount simply because the Yankee fans got on him this year.

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well ESPN Radio this morning mentioned the Cubs second as a team for A-Rod right after the Angels. In all reality the Angels would have the inside track if they offered Dallas McPherson and Ervin Santana. If i were the Angels I would look very hard at that deal and then suggest Casey Kotchman instead of Dallas and then make the deal (The Yanks wouldn't go for it).

 

Why would the Yankees want Kotchman? They're trading their third baseman, they still have Giambi.

 

That is why I noted that the Yanks wouldn't do Kotchman but I would wager they would do McPherson assuming he is healthy. I would also think they would do a Santana/Izturis/MLB Ready young pitcher

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Olney just said on Mike and Mike that the Yanks might trade ARod for a Peevy or Santana from the Angels. Cashman isn't listening to trades but might be talked into it if a team sends an impact young pitcher.

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